His announcement would be more like making competitors rather than meeting developers.carlo6529 said:I hope Iwata connected with some developers today.
His announcement would be more like making competitors rather than meeting developers.carlo6529 said:I hope Iwata connected with some developers today.
repeatClott said:I am watching the stream now, is this still live?
neptunes said:His frustration with Apple seems a bit misguided. Apple is simply providing an avenue for developers to distribute their software. They're not making the games themselves.
neptunes said:His frustration with Apple seems a bit misguided. Apple is simply providing an avenue for developers to distribute their software. They're not making the games themselves.
They showed an official Zelda 25th Anniversary logo. Plus, I'm pretty sure he said they're actually doing something.BlueMagic said:Did they confirm anything about this?
Forkball said:Iwata: "Holy shit Apple is selling games for a fucking dollar. Sony, Microsoft, we gotta get our shit together and deliver some actual fucking games or we will be poor and homeless."
neptunes said:His frustration with Apple seems a bit misguided. Apple is simply providing an avenue for developers to distribute their software. They're not making the games themselves.
Bizzyb said:Not quite, it's more like he doesn't want people to devalue videogames. Playing free and and cheap throw-away games may give people the notion that videogames in general have no value and therefore they would not be interested in seeking gaming anywhere else, especially if it meant they had to actually pay and pay more for it
Also, developers and publishers cannot survive in this kind of ecosystem. Where is the big pay off? many people aren't going to buy your $5+ game if they can just get a cheaper/fre knock off version. Where is your revenue now? It will eventually become an unhealthy and unsustainable environment
Why would you do that? said:They showed an official Zelda 25th Anniversary logo. Plus, I'm pretty sure he said they're actually doing something.
Painraze said:"Please don't give away games for free, we need to be able to keep reselling our games year after year."
a few things:Big One said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv0eFTpT8no
Low quality trailer up on youtube
Go to :17 second mark, looks like Link has a bell.
jman2050 said:That's the point. Fostering an environment with no quality control to speak of and little regulation sounds like a developer's dream in theory, but from a business perspective it just completely screws with the value proposition of the industry as a whole.
GodfatherX said:every time I see Skyward Sword I get less hyped, life long zelda fan
Feep said:Bullshit, Iwata had his hands on a Nintendo 3DS and the gaming press was quite excited when the Mario stuff was shown.
Bingo.
Synth_floyd said:He's saying "Please buy our $40 games instead of $1-10 games for iOS or Android. We won't make as much money if you do. K, thx bye."
It doesn't appear to be the Master Sword. The Ordon Sword in TP was shorter too.Nintendo-4Life said:a few things:
A) Link's sword is waaay too short.
B) Is that a magic bar i'm seeing?
Anyway the game looks pretty spectacular IMO.
Nintendo-4Life said:a few things:
A) Link's sword is waaay too short.
B) Is that a magic bar i'm seeing?
Anyway the game looks pretty spectacular IMO.
This speech was directed at developers not consumers. He was saying that switching over to downloadable iOS or Android games is too risky and not nearly as profitable as games for actual game consoles.Synth_floyd said:He's saying "Please buy our $40 games instead of $1-10 games for iOS or Android. We won't make as much money if you do. K, thx bye."
lowrider007 said:Why no GBA games on the 3DS's virtual console?, WHY?, I just don't get it, the 3DS should be able to play GBA games almost natively no?
ARGHHHHHHHHHH....
Exactly.Instro said:Im pretty sure that was his point, because they are not game makers themselves, they dont care what stuff ends up on their service.
I think its also worth mentioning that while from a distance, it seems Sony is trying to edge into the smart phone app scene, the reality is that the Playstation Suite is still a curated environment, unlike the larger smart phone app marketplace.jman2050 said:That's the point. Fostering an environment with no quality control to speak of and little regulation sounds like a developer's dream in theory, but from a business perspective it just completely screws with the value proposition of the industry as a whole.
What Iwata talked about briefly regarding the volumetric nature of the smartphone app game dev scene, and what Reggie hinted at as a talking point a month ago, is a concern that's been rumbling around for years now. Nintendo, with a new platform launch, is taking the initiative to say that future projections of what Apple is doing will have a hugely detrimental effect on not only their business model, but for most of the traditional gaming industry. I'm willing to extrapolate that what he means is the danger of setting precedent and mindset amongst youth that free, or freemium, is the norm, which is not a model that Nintendo has adopted to any degree.Sealda said:Kinda awesome speech. Nintendo taking on the crown of video games. They are basically holding a lecture about video games as if they were video games itself!
Uhh Apple DOES have a quality control. (if it just WORKS and falls within apple's guidelines)jman2050 said:That's the point. Fostering an environment with no quality control to speak of and little regulation sounds like a developer's dream in theory, but from a business perspective it just completely screws with the value proposition of the industry as a whole.
GameE said:Ocarina of Time 3D screens! Looks great!!
Big One said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv0eFTpT8no
Low quality trailer up on youtube
Go to :17 second mark, looks like Link has a bell.
Because Iwata talked about more than just 3DS. Putting a Reggie face there tohugh is all fair play.webrunner said:Why not "99% 3DS talk"
Bizzyb said:No shit, but like I just updated my point with, this would eventually hurt everyone, and not just Nintendo. Dude, pay attention to the message. Not the messenger.
Holy fuck.GameE said:Ocarina of Time 3D screens! Looks great!!
OMFG.GameE said:Ocarina of Time 3D screens! Looks great!!
lowrider007 said:Why no GBA games on the 3DS's virtual console?, WHY?, I just don't get it, the 3DS should be able to play GBA games almost natively no?
ARGHHHHHHHHHH....
Cheesemeister said:Counting reconfirmation of 3D Classics...
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That's cheating :x
neptunes said:Uhh Apple DOES have a quality control. (if it just WORKS and falls within apple's guidelines)
When a developers submits an for approval and the app functions as its intended (and meets Apple's guidelines) then they should have no problem. It akin to getting angry at a home computer or any other open platform. The only difference between the two is the cost of acquiring an SDK license.
A Free SDK + $99 a year vs. +$1000's for a debug + units having a legit business + submitting your proof of concept to Nintendo beforehand.
bizzyb said:Not quite, it's more like he doesn't want people to devalue videogames. Playing free and and cheap throw-away games may give people the notion that videogames in general have no value and therefore they would not be interested in seeking gaming anywhere else, especially if it meant they had to actually pay and pay more for it
Also, developers and publishers cannot survive in this kind of ecosystem. Where is the big pay off? many people aren't going to buy your $5+ game if they can just get a cheaper/fre knock off version. Where is your revenue now? It will eventually become an unhealthy and unsustainable environment
GameE said:Ocarina of Time 3D screens! Looks great!!
Synth_floyd said:He's saying cheap games devalue the industry, so everyone should buy expensive games. And wow what a coincidence, Nintendo sells expensive games. The message and messenger are one and the same. What proof is he offering to that statement that cheap games are bad for the industry? None, he's just trying to protect the bottom line of his company which is completely natural but intellectually disingenuous.