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Nintendo, I'm ready for Metroid Prime™ 4.

Nibel said:
And besides, 50% of the posts in this thread are wrong. All Prime games are incredible and I hope you have a blast playing them ;)
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i'm so very glad i didnt skip Prime 2...its just often spoken of (around here and elsewhere) as the bastard child of the series, but all the stuff i heard - "dark" gimmicks, backtracky, some uninspired areas etc - i dont see. again following 1 (i mightve been kinda burnt at the moment to be fair) 2's opening felt weird and slow and i didn't like it much, but a few boss battles in and it just really clicked as its own thing. the posts here about level design feel spot-on, i was digging torvus but this new sanctuary area is awesome.

Morgadeth said:
I'd like an HD remake of Super Metroid.
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eh, id surely be happy & play it but if we were gonna get that, id rather something new like Fusion brought or since Zero Mission redid 1, a professional redo of 2 like AM2R is doing
 
IrishNinja said:
i'm so very glad i didnt skip Prime 2...its just often spoken of (around here and elsewhere) as the bastard child of the series, but all the stuff i heard - "dark" gimmicks, backtracky, some uninspired areas etc - i dont see. again following 1 (i mightve been kinda burnt at the moment to be fair) 2's opening felt weird and slow and i didn't like it much, but a few boss battles in and it just really clicked as its own thing. the posts here about level design feel spot-on, i was digging torvus but this new sanctuary area is awesome.



eh, id surely be happy & play it but if we were gonna get that, id rather something new like Fusion brought or since Zero Mission redid 1, a professional redo of 2 like AM2R is doing
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I thought 2 was as good as or a tad better than 1 myself. I agree about 2's opening feeling off. Prime 1's opening was classic and that's the only thing I felt Echoes was missing.
 
Turok_TTZ said:
Other m gameplay I'd take over the prime series. Looking at this thread I see peeps are still burned by the only thing that puts other m in a bad light, its storyline. Team ninja did a good job with metroid other m imo. sakamoto did horrible and should stay away from scripting the story.
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I liked Other M overall, not a masterpiece but an interesting game that tried to really do a 3D "2D game" (not just a 2.5D game).
Said that OM faults goes even beyond it's script.

Item exploration was weak, the new cinematic influx meant the approach used for the OST made music less incisive compared the rest of the series, the "auto-dodge" feature is a bit bullshit, "walk mode" for cinematic purpose don't have any justification, "waldo-sequences" are terrible and in some points the game is very obscure in what it expects (case in point the last boss finishing move activated on the spot).

But I would like a new third-person Metroid.
 
I will buy anything Retro releases. So far they are a perfect developer.

I'd like if Nintendo did another 3rd person Metroid, just keep the story away from anyone to do with Other M. If Retro does it, that's cool.
 
I'm only back from vacation and I see this thread....
Yes Metroid Prime 4 makes more sense than the other alternative from a business PoV or a gaming PoV because it's simply better and sells better.

Because I don't like repeating myself too much I'll quote myself :
Mael said:
Actually you're right, it's worse.

And did people actually claim that metroid other m did similarly to the prime games?
Because MP1 is over 1,49mil in the us alone
MP2 is near 1 mil(>800 000)
And MP3 is >1,31 mil
Heck hunters did over 400 000 in the us alone in 1 month

Other M probably didn't even reach 500 000

Yes there's more people who played and paid for Hunters than for that atrocity.
And yes that's q good thing.
It's really like the PS3 there's no metric you can use to show that its not a total disaster for the people who made it
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And about the game MamaRobotnik said it best :
Mama Robotnik said:
No.

Their designs were boring and ugly, their enemies were uninteresting and generic, their power ups were a literal recycle of a precious game with no new ideas, their bosses were uninspiring and functional, their environments were bland and completely without merit, their control mechanics are clumsy (missiles!), their music is pointless, their pacing is meandering, the secrets are inane, and their reinterpretation of the Metroid mechanics and themes are insipid.

Yeah the story/characterisation/cutscenes/authorisation/voice acting and scripting are vile, and in some places offensively sexist and destructive to the entire franchise, but let's not pretend that Team Ninja didn't also bring shit to the table. Everyone brought shit to Other M, and no one who worked on it should be allowed to work with the franchise again.
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Let's all forget about that atrocity for now
I had more fun with pretty much anything but that turd.

Now Prime 4 or another game of that qualiber I'm all for it!
Other M taught me something : no more blind buy for me, sucks for ZombiU but that's how it is now.
 
What the FUCK is happening here? Is it GAF opposite day, where Other M wasn't a possible franchise killing game, and Metroid Prime isn't one of the greatest trilogy's in gaming history? WTF is going on!?
 
Diablos54 said:
What the FUCK is happening here? Is it GAF opposite day, where Other M wasn't a possible franchise killing game, and Metroid Prime isn't one of the greatest trilogy's in gaming history? WTF is going on!?
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Metroid Prime was made by baka gaijins
which makes it automatically suck :p /weeaboo logic
 
There's probably still room for another fps Metroid, but the team at Retro were getting pretty burnt out on it IIRC. Didn't a bunch of the core team members leave after MP2?

Nintendo sort of mismanaged that I guess. They should have only made one Metroid per generation and in between worked on new or at least different IPs.

At this point I just don't care about fps games. At all. I would personally prefer a 2.5D Metroid on the 3DS if anything. I don't really know what Retro is up to these days because I never bothered with Donkey Kong Country Reruns. I may pick it up when it's like $20.
 
Uncle Rupee said:
At this point I just don't care about fps games. At all. I would personally prefer a 2.5D Metroid on the 3DS if anything. I don't really know what Retro is up to these days because I never bothered with Donkey Kong Country Reruns. I may pick it up when it's like $20.
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That sucks. DKCR is easily one of the best 2D platformers ever.
 
I truly think from now on, Retro Studios should make every console Metroid (even if that means waiting a few years while they are working in other games) and Sakamoto stay with portables, making 2D or 2.5D entries.

Metroid Prime 4 for Wii U, Metroid 5 for 3DS, and almost everyone should be happy.
 
This is what I want:

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Diablos54 said:
What the FUCK is happening here? Is it GAF opposite day, where Other M wasn't a possible franchise killing game, and Metroid Prime isn't one of the greatest trilogy's in gaming history? WTF is going on!?
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How dare people go and form opinions of their own. The nerve of them.
 
At this point I think Retro could make a Mario game where he fights Mystical Hovering Pants led by Hewdraw from the Kid Icarus series, and where Peach, Luigi, and Bowser have ceased to exist, and Retro fans would declare it the greatest platformer since DKCR.
 
RockXLight said:
At this point I think Retro could make a Mario game where he fights Mystical Hovering Pants led by Hewdraw from the Kid Icarus series, and where Peach, Luigi, and Bowser have ceased to exist, and Retro fans would declare it the greatest platformer since DKCR.
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RockXLight said:
At this point I think Retro could make a Mario game where he fights Mystical Hovering Pants led by Hewdraw from the Kid Icarus series, and where Peach, Luigi, and Bowser have ceased to exist, and Retro fans would declare it the greatest platformer since DKCR.
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Because Kremlings would totally make sense when the level design philosophy shifted from player vs enemies to player vs environments. Yeah, no.

am i reading too deeply into this
 
MOM defence force unite!
I liked the first two Prime games quite a lot, but there was something wrong with the third one. I don't know why, but I just didn't like it; I only completed it once and even turned on the guide halfway through to finish it as quickly as possible. Maybe, I was just fed up with the core gameplay?
Then I Played MOM and I was dumbfounded. I thought the Prime games were a faithful representation of Metroid in 3D, but MOM completely destroyed that notion. Fighting against the lava boss really opened my eyes; after seeing Samus do all those acrobatic (context sensitive) moves I don't want to go back to super slow Samus ever again! All they need to do in the sequel is make the level design less linear and make the dodge move less spamable. Do it Sakamoto!

GreggTheGrimReaper said:
This is what I want:
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That looks great but it would play awfully; losing sight of Samus, hard to make out the ledges. Visuals should never get in the way of playing a game.
 
RockXLight said:
At this point I think Retro could make a Mario game where he fights Mystical Hovering Pants led by Hewdraw from the Kid Icarus series, and where Peach, Luigi, and Bowser have ceased to exist, and Retro fans would declare it the greatest platformer since DKCR.
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In comparison to Jungle Beat where even barrels, something Rare adapted from the arcade games are for the most part replaced with bouncy pineapples and floating monkey bushes, DKCR was a mushy love letter to DKC.

While ironically I love both games more than most of the Rare games I wish they referenced more, JB still annoys me with just how little old stuff there is and how most of its original enemies look like Mario Sunshine rejects. I mean, I get it was a chance for EAD Tokyo to experiment more than they could with Mario and it was always going to have a distinctly different feel to the DKC's, but would it have killed them to have at least Cranky somewhere there just for a bit of familiarity for fans of the overall series?

I could have done with Dixie and Funky in Returns though
 
Astrosanity said:
In comparison to Jungle Beat where even barrels, something Rare adapted from the arcade games are for the most part replaced with bouncy pineapples and floating monkey bushes, DKCR was a mushy love letter to DKC.

While ironically I love both games more than most of the Rare games I wish they referenced more, JB still annoys me with just how little old stuff there is and how most of its original enemies look like Mario Sunshine rejects. I mean, I get it was a chance for EAD Tokyo to experiment more than they could with Mario and it was always going to have a distinctly different feel to the DKC's, but would it have killed them to have at least Cranky somewhere there just for a bit of familiarity for fans of the overall series?

I could have done with Dixie and Funky in Returns though
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Jungle Beat is like DK just turned up in someone elses game and started wrecking shit, still it was damn good.

But hey at least the NPC version of it swapped out the launcher plants with barrel cannons for that half arsed authentic DKC feel.
Actually considering how much from Jungle Beat made it into Galaxy i'll just assume that DK was up in SMG space, they do exist in the same universe after all.
 
Galaxy even had the gibbons from Jungle Beat at one point!

For all the weird crap that felt out of place in comparison to the DKC's in Jungle Beat (maybe not DK64 but that game is basically a half-arsed Banjo clone and sucks as a result) the monkey designs were really cool. Whoever makes the next DK game should branch out even further and try and integrate even more species.
 
Atmej said:
MOM defence force unite!
I liked the first two Prime games quite a lot, but there was something wrong with the third one. I don't know why, but I just didn't like it; I only completed it once and even turned on the guide halfway through to finish it as quickly as possible. Maybe, I was just fed up with the core gameplay?
Then I Played MOM and I was dumbfounded. I thought the Prime games were a faithful representation of Metroid in 3D, but MOM completely destroyed that notion. Fighting against the lava boss really opened my eyes; after seeing Samus do all those acrobatic (context sensitive) moves I don't want to go back to super slow Samus ever again! All they need to do in the sequel is make the level design less linear and make the dodge move less spamable. Do it Sakamoto!
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Having no control whatsoever over what you're doing in a critical moment is your idea of a boss fight in Metroid?
What's even more funny is how incredibly nimble Samus seems to be in 1rst person compared to pretty much all 1rst person games.
She's slower than in 2D but she's by no mean a slug either.
Anyway Metroid is no Contra while in Contra or any other shooter at the time were all about arcady gameplay and making sure you never got hit AT ALL, Metroid has always been about the exploration and while quick reactions were clearly a skill that you had to have in order to even survive (less so in SM btw since that game is so easy) it's never been that critical (unlike Megaman, Contra and all the others).
That the people in charge of Metroid decided that ditching the core mechanic of the game (going even as far as removing audio cues the games are known for) shows how little they think of their audience.
Other M cannot be seen as anything but a gigantic FU to anyone liking the Metroid games.

Atmej said:
That looks great but it would play awfully; losing sight of Samus, hard to make out the ledges. Visuals should never get in the way of playing a game.
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And yet you praise the unplayable mess that is Other M in the same breath?
One thing for sure is since Other M is so bland you never lost sight of Samus :p
 
Kaijima said:
It's good to actually like more than one game.

Every Metroid Prime game was fantastic, irrespective of ranking them within the trilogy; each one of the best 3D action adventure games of all time.

Other M was even good, in terms of figuring out how to combine 2D and 3D platforming, game played like butter, even if it had design problems like the Waldo sequences.

Therefore, I take an uncouth, and evidently unfashionable stance: Nintendo can make whatever the hell kind of Metroid game they want. They have a pretty good track record, especially in comparison to how 99% of the industry handles long running series.



This is the kind of bizarre fannish attitude I don't get. Fuck good games, just remake the one and only game I accept and will play. No offense, but this is why Nintendo should not listen to their "Number 1 fans".
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I agree with ever thing said in this post. In fact this may be one of the few right posts in this thread.
 
Reasons someone might love Metroid Prime: Appreciation for objectively one of the best games ever made. You're Andrew Jones.

Reasons someone might hate Metroid Prime: Dropped on the head as a child. Parents died in horrific Metroid related incidents, harbouring a Batman like grudge. You're Hitler.

Truth.
 
Green Scar said:
Just set it before Metroid II.
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If they do a new Metroid Prime game, it's time to set it some where else in the time line. The space between Metroid and Metroid II is REALLY packed now. You have like 4 games taking up that space already (MP, MP2, MP3, and MPH). It's time that if there is another Metroid Prime, to have it happen after Fusion, or after Super Metroid. You could still call it Metroid Prime 4 for naming purposes but it needs to happen some where else in the timeline.
 
Shin Johnpv said:
If they do a new Metroid Prime game, it's time to set it some where else in the time line. The space between Metroid and Metroid II is REALLY packed now. You have like 4 games taking up that space already (MP, MP2, MP3, and MPH). It's time that if there is another Metroid Prime, to have it happen after Fusion, or after Super Metroid. You could still call it Metroid Prime 4 for naming purposes but it needs to happen some where else in the timeline.
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Between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion would be ideal.
Retconning Metroid Other M would be perfect actually!
 
Shin Johnpv said:
If they do a new Metroid Prime game, it's time to set it some where else in the time line. The space between Metroid and Metroid II is REALLY packed now. You have like 4 games taking up that space already (MP, MP2, MP3, and MPH). It's time that if there is another Metroid Prime, to have it happen after Fusion, or after Super Metroid. You could still call it Metroid Prime 4 for naming purposes but it needs to happen some where else in the timeline.
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I know it will never happen but I'd love to see a different take (meaning without samus) Like playing a Space Pirate or someone who has to defend the planet after being attacked. But Nintendo being Nintendo...
 
I really love Metroid Prime 1 & 2, in fact these two games are among my favourite games of that generation. But I'm not sure if I'd want another game like that. Maybe if they release it very quickly, but as soon as the PS4 and next Xbox will come, they'll look like outdated :( So, I think the best way would be to make a very sexy 2D Metroid and sell it on the e-shop. Having a map on the pad and some quick menu to change your equipment on the fly could be really nice, maybe pointing the Wii U gamepad to the screen to use it as a scanner could be nice too, but it could definitely be super annoying after a while.
 
Atmej said:
Then I Played MOM and I was dumbfounded. I thought the Prime games were a faithful representation of Metroid in 3D, but MOM completely destroyed that notion. Fighting against the lava boss really opened my eyes; after seeing Samus do all those acrobatic (context sensitive) moves I don't want to go back to super slow Samus ever again! All they need to do in the sequel is make the level design less linear and make the dodge move less spamable. Do it Sakamoto!
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This. Fuck the haters. I'd love to see Other M 2 for the Wii U, and see the potential of the first game fully realized.
 
Just clarifying Metroid Prime Hunters is set between MP1 and MP2.

And I'm of the opinion that the Ship seen at the end of MP3 belongs to Sylux.

As it stands the timeline would be Metroid/Zero Mission>Metroid 2>MP>MPH>MP2>MP3>Super Metroid>Other M(it was better without voices)>Fusion

I think 3DS should have a 2-d Metroid(Dread), while Wii U(Retro) could have a successor to the Prime Series.

And I would much prefer an installment centering around Sylux, just because I want it.

I thought Other M was great for what it was. My only gripe with it was most of the music.
 
The metroid prime serie is a mystery.
There's not much to add like Corruption has shown and still retro doing metroid prime 4 is practically a meme now. While there's a lot to do with merging the 2d and 3d elements of the serie.
That would be like people asking for mario galaxy 3, but while being on the same level of praise, people want something different and by extent the infamous open world platforming.
 
daakusedo said:
The metroid prime serie is a mystery.
There's not much to add like Corruption has shown and still retro doing metroid prime 4 is practically a meme now. While there's a lot to do with merging the 2d and 3d aspect of the serie.
That would be like people asking for mario galaxy 3, but while being on the same level of praise, people ask for something different and by extent the infamous open world platforming.
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Actually the infamous open world platformers never materialised as far as I know...and by that I mean by anyone (if you know 1 please point me to it I4d like to know)
 
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