GhostTrick
Banned
Well I think it there was numbers like classic friend codes, it would be displayed here.
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Nintendo Network ID - Friend codes no more [Maybe? Maybe not? Not clarified, yay]
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Well I think it there was numbers like classic friend codes, it would be displayed here.
weeman_com
Neo Member
You are assuming that this is the method of connection. What I am saying is you use the numerical string to add a friend and their information is then seen with a name et al as an overlay to the numerical data. The code is no longer viewed.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I use it because it is hassleless. It is a no brainer.
What is the differnce? Nintendo properly sees the friend-codes like a telephone or Mobil number. Yes a username is easier to remember, but lets see if Nintendo gives us multiple ways to find each other for example searching for an alias, while the friend-code would be the direct way to add somebody.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There is apparently a friend request button so there's no need to add number or name by typing it.
I thought it was around during Steam era?
I thought it was around during Steam era?
Gianni Merryman
Member
100 friends limit is a little on the low side, but there's some promising news around.
KillerTravis
Banned
It can't be any clearer than this. That's the username and ID: kenichi. See, now we can give it a rest. No need for <<KillerWeaponDicks>>1998///
mugurumakensei
Member
No, if it was something like that, the id would be showing something in Japanese. The fact that willwill shows in English and Will(the Mii Name) shows in Japanese would suggest the NNID is a username.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I have 98 friends on Steam, and I talk to like 15 of them regularly. No problems here.
Opening the game icon on the WaraWara Plaza brings up these options:
New Super Mario Bros. U
- Friends (presumably) -
- Nintendo eShop button
- View Miiverse
- Close
Clicking on a Mii in WaraWara Plaza brings up these options:
Aoi (Mii name)
Her comment on Miiverse: "Regarding the fact that no matter what I do, I can't find any Star Coins"
- Save this Mii (guessing in your Mii studio).
New Super Mario Bros. U
- Open eShop page
- View this comment
- Go to profile
- Close
New Super Mario Bros. U
- Friends (presumably) -
- Nintendo eShop button
- View Miiverse
- Close
Clicking on a Mii in WaraWara Plaza brings up these options:
Aoi (Mii name)
Her comment on Miiverse: "Regarding the fact that no matter what I do, I can't find any Star Coins"
- Save this Mii (guessing in your Mii studio).
New Super Mario Bros. U
- Open eShop page
- View this comment
- Go to profile
- Close
mugurumakensei
Member
Yea, you can see what your friends have played and our currently playing through Miiverse.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Maybe "friend codes" are text based. Though working in the same manner as the number form.
weeman_com
Neo Member
Im not getting into a piss fight over this, I am just stating that is 1 piece of information that I have heard. Until it is hard confirmed we cannot discount its validity. Looking at that image with your statement is an assumption because you do not have the hardware in hand.
MikeE21286
Member
Say if my 3DS is replaced. Can I just re download them on the new system? (A la Steam)
That image KillerTravis posted is further proof that the ID is just a standard username. Now I can rest easy.
Maybe for Wii legacy support? How are Wii online titles going to work on the WiiU? Never thought about that...
Maybe for Wii legacy support? How are Wii online titles going to work on the WiiU? Never thought about that...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Maybe they really just call them friend codes even though it doesn't function as one. The subtitles pretty much made things confusing vs. none.
I'm pretty sure that's Xbox Live's max as well.
Lupin the Third
Member
I am assuming this is the method of connection because it says "ID" not "Username" or whatever. (Why would they call your ID the "NN ID" then call something else a user's "ID?" It's not impossible but still silly.)
Another reason I think it's how it works is this is EXACTLY how Flipnote Hatena works, and Miiverse was developed in part BY Hatena. In Flipnote Hatena, you have your main ID which is your actual core ID that identifies you, then your display name, which you can change at your leisure. My Flipnote Hatena page, for example: http://flipnote.hatena.com/5776F1F0CC7D700D@DSi/
Notice "Reed id:LupintheThird" ? Same situation.
Seems like people maybe aren't entirely familiar with the idea of IDs vs. display names...
for example, on Steam, my public name is corn_fest, but my Steam ID is 16502819.
This isn't visible to the public unless you explicitly search for it, and while you can change your display name at any time (multiple users can also have the same display names), the ID number is fixed.
That said, it's unclear whether this system is:
-Mii name (changeable)
--Full user ID (i.e. willwill, changeable)
---numerical identifier (fixed)
or
-Mii name (changeable)
--Full user ID (fixed)
I would hope it's the former, as otherwise the user IDs are going to get taken up very quickly. Also, that would allow for the display of full user IDs in-game to differentiate between people with the same name or if people would rather display a username than their Mii name. It would be strange to play an FPS and have everyone's name just be "Ben", "Samantha", etc.
for example, on Steam, my public name is corn_fest, but my Steam ID is 16502819.
This isn't visible to the public unless you explicitly search for it, and while you can change your display name at any time (multiple users can also have the same display names), the ID number is fixed.
That said, it's unclear whether this system is:
-Mii name (changeable)
--Full user ID (i.e. willwill, changeable)
---numerical identifier (fixed)
or
-Mii name (changeable)
--Full user ID (fixed)
I would hope it's the former, as otherwise the user IDs are going to get taken up very quickly. Also, that would allow for the display of full user IDs in-game to differentiate between people with the same name or if people would rather display a username than their Mii name. It would be strange to play an FPS and have everyone's name just be "Ben", "Samantha", etc.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
^that too.
To be fair to those still questioning how this works, Nintendo does have a history of being remarkably stubborn when it comes to this sort of thing whereas Sony and MS don't.
weeman_com
Neo Member
To add to this, I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm just adding that it is ALL rumor/speculation and assumption.
Dont get me wrong, I would LOVE if there was no numerical code needed. I'm just saying, this is Nintendo, so dont expect the logical.
Cheesemeister
Member
Iwata wasn't that specific.
Lupin the Third
Member
Flipnote Hatena works like the latter, so I suspect that's how they'll do it. Although there may be an invisible-to-the-user numerical code working in the background of it all.
Well, the purpose of IDs in this context is that they're unique identifiers, so I wouldn't imagine they'll be changeable. It's probably like the 3DS where the user is represented by their Mii's name.
Having a unique ID also supports the fact that you add someone by that ID, not a string of numbers.
It can't be any clearer than this. That's the username and ID: kenichi. See, now we can give it a rest. No need for <<KillerWeaponDicks>>1998///
God bless Iwata's honey-smelling new haircut for this.
Now, please, update the 3DS OS. Add miiverse support as promised, but also implement this as the default way to go. I don't care if they fuck up the current friend lists, they have to get rid of friend codes and of course with the ability to download retail games, make those downloads user account-tied.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I like that you can follow a large number of people without formally requesting to be "friends". Seems to encourage the social aspect of Miiverse - if you can attach screenshots to public posts as well as send them to friends, great potential for media tourism. Follow people who post a lot of screens to document their playthroughs, etc.
grimshawish
Banned
Yeah, I suppose even if it is unchangeable, it's not really that bad. It would be like how usernames work on PSN (outside of Japan), really, and then you would have your changeable Mii name on top of that.
Hitting the Home button on the Wii U gamepad during a game brings up this menu:
From left to right
- Friends list
- Miiverse
- Nintendo eShop
- Internet browser
- Nintendo Tvii
- Download management
- Controller settings
- Close software
- Instruction manual
- Close Home button menu
From left to right
- Friends list
- Miiverse
- Nintendo eShop
- Internet browser
- Nintendo Tvii
- Download management
- Controller settings
- Close software
- Instruction manual
- Close Home button menu
maquiladora
Member
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-ask...pathy-Network-/1-Empathy-Network--662853.html
Still numbers, not usernames.
KillerTravis
Banned
Hopefully you can leave something downloading and keep playing.
Edit: Also, thanks Hobby! And keep them coming please.
weeman_com
Neo Member
I love this "game suspension" that Nintendo is doing. I have 0 experience with anything similar on PS3, and on Xbox its virtually non existent except for viewing messages and friends etc. But the way it works on 3DS is so good, if only the browser was better! Maybe with an update in the new year we will get a new browser?
In the screenshot the id is made from characters.
I guess that confirms background downloads then. But it is a pitty that there's no direct access to a chat, or something. I guess that is the purpose of Miiverse.
Wonder if third party games can customize this menu, to add and remove functionality.
grimshawish
Banned
Thanks Hobby! I was really impressed how quickly it popped up; glad Nintendo are running such a heavy OS underneath. All looks very intuitive.
You can probably get to that through the Friends List. Should also be some form of notification, even if its a wee light like 3DS.
No chance.
weeman_com
Neo Member
Seems to be game based and tracked. No universal system of collation, but the ability to brag about completion through the MiiVerse
Dwight Schrute
Member
It'll be like twitter, can't be any clearer.
Twitter : WhatIWant @uniqueid
Nintendo : WhatIWant ID: uniqueid
Twitter : WhatIWant @uniqueid
Nintendo : WhatIWant ID: uniqueid
I hope I'm able to import a Mii to use as my Mii when I first start up rather than trying to replicate it from scratch. May have to go with a character Mii rather than myself since its open to the world. On the 3DS I use a character Mii online and my own Mii for friends and streetpass.
KillerTravis
Banned
Yeah, they are taking some good things from twitter. #seeyouatmiiverse
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
To be honest, with Nintendo's very mainstream focus, retaining an emphasis on backend ID numbers that don't restrict the plain english user handle makes sense, it's not "Nintendo Illogical" - much like Facebook where two people can have the same display name, people using Nintendo Network won't be asked to pick another display name if a variety of common names like "Robert" are already taken.
The fact that NNID is accessible from both mobile devices and a browser on PC insinuates you'd be able to manage your friends list through a browser and not the Nintendo device itself. If so, that seems like it'd take any real effort out of the process. In the absolute worst case scenario you could just CTRL-V over a "friend code" to paste it into the Nintendo Network request form.
Really, there's only two significant questions remaining:
1. Can you search the network globally for a user to add them, rather than only by encountering their Mii in game specific Miiverse spaces.
2. Can you send the friend request from other devices like phone and browser - obviously there is a "request" button inside the Miiverse interface as the screenshots indicate.
But otherwise, very happy with what I'm seeing. Despite the flack that Nintendo gets for "welcome to 2005", there are a lot of new features, not just playing catch-up. I really like the ability to follow people instead of always harassing them to accept a friend request. Opens up possibility for following folks who post lots of screenshots, etc. There's a bit of Twitter in there.
The fact that NNID is accessible from both mobile devices and a browser on PC insinuates you'd be able to manage your friends list through a browser and not the Nintendo device itself. If so, that seems like it'd take any real effort out of the process. In the absolute worst case scenario you could just CTRL-V over a "friend code" to paste it into the Nintendo Network request form.
Really, there's only two significant questions remaining:
1. Can you search the network globally for a user to add them, rather than only by encountering their Mii in game specific Miiverse spaces.
2. Can you send the friend request from other devices like phone and browser - obviously there is a "request" button inside the Miiverse interface as the screenshots indicate.
But otherwise, very happy with what I'm seeing. Despite the flack that Nintendo gets for "welcome to 2005", there are a lot of new features, not just playing catch-up. I really like the ability to follow people instead of always harassing them to accept a friend request. Opens up possibility for following folks who post lots of screenshots, etc. There's a bit of Twitter in there.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I like the part where the guy from Hatena says this whole system's features can be updated so they will continue to develop it as users use it. It will be up to use to say how we feel about limits of 100 friends.
this is a good start
this is a good start
That's unfortunate. A universal system with rewards for the Miis/Miiverse would have been a definite plus. Maybe they will change it.