The release schedule is also winding down. If there's very little to buy, obviously download revenue will be decreased.
It's obvious that 3DS is near the end of its life.
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Nintendo Quarterly Financial Highlights: 0.94M 3DS, 0.22M Wii U, Amiibo down 60% YoY
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The release schedule is also winding down. If there's very little to buy, obviously download revenue will be decreased.
It's obvious that 3DS is near the end of its life.
ArchedThunder
Banned
ORAS is only 480,000 away from matching HGSS and XY is 620,000 away from matching Black and White. ORAS will probably reach HGSS, but I'm not feeling so confident in XY matching Black and White.
I suspect the key issue is that we're mostly done with Smash now, and the replacement large-collection Amiibo offering - Animal Crossing - isn't driving sales as effectively. How many Amiibo were out this time last year, and how many new Amiibo have been released since then?
I suspect the only other large-library Amiibo range that could have that sort of level of power would be Pokemon, and even then, I suspect the highest-profile mons have been accounted for.
(That said, I can't find the exact part of the report, but you're saying figures - how are the cards doing? They should be another large-volume item)
Nothing1016
Member
Wow. Can't believe I missed it.
thanks.Ok. Tell me how.
They sold 280,000 this quarter.
Next quarter is a given they will sell even more because the Pokémon GO effect.
And then the last quarter of 2016 is of course gonna be bigger because the holidays.
Let's say they will sell only as much as this quarter, so only 280k both quarter (which is impossible), this will make XY at 15.54 million, 60k under Black/White.
Do you seriusly think XY won't sell 60k in the INTERE 2017?
Not to mention that at this point is 90% probabily that XY will surpass Black/White this year.........
ArchedThunder
Banned
I expect Sun and Moon to kill XY's sales.
Nintendo doesn't drop prices to Steam or even PSN levels, which is what drives sales on other digital platforms, and shitty account systems not really encouraging to go digital on Nintendo systems
That's all? Maybe you don't know that after ORAS release Pokémon XY sold another 1.7 million, and no way it will stop here...
They also don't release many new games with DLC.T_T
ArchedThunder
Banned
ORAS wasn't a new generation.
Nintendo only reports on the sales of their own games, so yes, it will.
Bioshocker
Member
220K Wii U's sold is obviously bad, but it's not a low record after all. Remember April-June 2013 when Wii U sold 160K?
Since Nintendo is expecting to sell 800K Wii U consoles this fiscal year, the numbers are pretty much as expected. At least Wii U ownes continue to buy games for the system.
OK, reveal NX now.
Since Nintendo is expecting to sell 800K Wii U consoles this fiscal year, the numbers are pretty much as expected. At least Wii U ownes continue to buy games for the system.
OK, reveal NX now.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Good point, I think. Felt like Nintendo had a one year console sabbatical also, between end of Wii and start of Wii U. They love to make the same mistakes again and again.
Ok you know what? Just watch and see.
If Pokémon XY sell less than Black and White, i'm down for a permatag.
mickagau33
Member
Good if AC:AF sold like crap, Nintendo will learn that people don't buy crappy AC spin-off. Well, AC:HHD sold well but you can tell more effort was put into it (but it still feels more like some side-stuff from a mainline game). Also if AC amiibos sold bad, it may explain why they decided to integrate them in NL (but isn't it a bit too late for a 2012 game, even if it sold 10+millions ?)
Bruno MB
Member
Nintendo Wii U hardware shipments:
Apr. - Jun. 2016
Japan - 70,000 (-53.3%)
The Americas - 90,000 (-52.6%)
Other - 50,000 (-61.5%)
Total - 220,000 (-53.2%)
According to their sales projection Wii U will only ship 0.58 million units for the remaining 9 months. Wii U lifetime sales will probably not reach 14 million.
Apr. - Jun. 2016
Japan - 70,000 (-53.3%)
The Americas - 90,000 (-52.6%)
Other - 50,000 (-61.5%)
Total - 220,000 (-53.2%)
According to their sales projection Wii U will only ship 0.58 million units for the remaining 9 months. Wii U lifetime sales will probably not reach 14 million.
Nothing1016
Member
What a sad life.
Really counting on that docking-station to feature an extra GPU. A certain level of hardware performance is important to entice many dedicated gamers. As it is now it's a Good phablet (though... active cooling?) but a super-weak console. Every portable device has TV-out these days so their TV-out functionality needs to stand apart.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Wow, their hardware sales really are dead. On whole sale prices ie the money Nintendo gets from retailers (these guesses are pretty generous to Nintendo):
3DS $150 x 0.94M = $141M
Wii U $250 x 0.22M = $55M
Total hardware $191M / quarter
Even assuming Q4 is double everything else, that's less than a billion a year.
3DS $150 x 0.94M = $141M
Wii U $250 x 0.22M = $55M
Total hardware $191M / quarter
Even assuming Q4 is double everything else, that's less than a billion a year.
Triggerhappytel
Member
So does that make this Nintendo's worst-selling console ever? How does it compare with zany experimental shit like the Virtual Boy? It's literally unbelievable they went from 260 million hardware units last gen to probably 80 million by the time this generation is over.
Bioshocker
Member
Seems about right. I projected 15 million lifetime sales back in 2013, wish I could go back and find that specific post right now (it was not on NeaGAF) and celebrate myself. I'm usually off when it comes to sales numbers.
Aceofspades
Banned
They are still bigger than Sony based on CAP value! /s
Triggerhappytel
Member
If they can integrate Amiibo into the NX platform and software in a meaningful way then I don't think they're dead yet, but I do think a lot of the customers are manchildren who want them for display rather than actually using them, and the sales would inevitably slow down at some point.
Will be a very interesting 12 months to see what the NX is like and whether things like Amiibo and Pokemon Go can be sustainable revenue streams for Nintendo.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I didn't realize Amiibo slowed down so much. NX can't get here soon enough, they need it to be a hit.
Nahh. It all depends on the game there. If Nintendo is able to come out with another hit like Splatoon, i can see the Amiibo is going to sell huge again.
Amiibo is different vs Skylander as it depends on the game it is paired. So if the game which is paired with the Amiibo is lackluster/ or no game is released, amiibo will slowed down.
If the game released is hits, i can see the Amiibo doing really well.
No people are just over 3DS for the most part.
SinCityAssassin
Member
They're 60% down from the quarter they released 5 smash amiibo and launched Splatoon. Of course the margins would be wide if you compare it to this year's barely anything quarter.
Jarod McChicken
Member
In a little less than two days.
Also, looks like a timid impact from Miitomo for Nintendo's debut in the mobile market. The report doesn't comment anything about it either. Let's see how this category will grow with Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem.
That makes no sense, how can content consumption always increase over time? The 3DS is OLD. It had its peak. HW and SW will decrease over time and a new device is coming, less SW being released, less DLC released etc.
It's not possible that forecast not to rise.
Even after the massive drop a few days ago?
Will it though? I think the official NX announcement will kill this console for good.
HandsomeCharles
Member
Not great figures, but it just seems indicative of a lack of new products. Compared to other years, Nintendo hasn't really put out all that much. I'd imagine next year (assuming the NX is not a colossal failure) will look much healthier.
Right.
Honestly i expect only 150K for Wii U this quarter, or something like this, 220K, while pretty much death level, is still much more they should ship for that 800k quarter... i mean, if they ships 220k all others 3 quarter, they will ship 880k... but of course there are the holidays sales, so looks even unlucky an avg of 220k per quarter.......................
I think they can go over 1 million for the quarter, unless they undership like crazy.
Something like:
Q1 - 220k
Q2 - 200k
Q4 - 500k
Q1 - 100k
Nope. Yesterday, Sony's market cap was 38.1 billion USD, while Nintendo's was 27.5. Today, Nintendo lost another 12%, so 24.4 billion USD.
You honestly need to calm down man.
Why lol?
Your reactions to anytime someone doesn't agree with your sales predictions just come off like "well you're wrong and here's why i think you're wrong and if you don't agree then you're still wrong". It gets tiresome to read.
Ok we are in a sales thread for dicuss about sales.
If someone disagree with me then i like to discuss WHY he disagree with me.
And if you think is boring to read then no one oblige you to read my post.