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Nintendo should retire Mario, Zelda and Metroid

Those series have been done to death and none of them can hold my interest for more than a few hours anymore. That being said, they are still extremely popular and they'd be mad to get rid of them.
 
How do people in gaming forums manage to be so disconnected from gaming?

Not only Mario is very successful, it's not farfetched to say Mario "saved" 3DS and could really help WiiU. Yeah, retire it, sure. For real?
 
How do people in gaming forums manage to be so disconnected from gaming?

Not only Mario is very successful, it's not farfetched to say Mario "saved" 3DS and could really help WiiU. Yeah, retire it, sure. For real?

On the other hand, Mario didn't save Gamecube.
 
Mario's popularity increased in recent times, so I'm not sure how GameCube is relevant. And I loved Sunshine, personally, but it was clearly no system seller.
 
While you make a fair point, keep in mind Mario Kart Wii is the best selling game of all time (I think) and that Mario 3, the previous best selling non-bundled game ever, was eclipsed by several Wii and DS Mario franchise titles in the last few years.

Also, Nintendo DS really started taking off after Mario Kart, New SMB, and DS Lite. (Also Animal Crossing and Brain Age, for complete fairness.)

people keep bringing portables when my post explicitly refers to home consoles sales.

again, WiiFit and WiiSports sold the Wii, not Mario Kart, not Zelda, not NSMB.

Mario Kart 64 sold around 10 million (?), Double Dash 6 million (?), then Kart Wii jumps to over 30 million, see the pattern?

consoles sold around Mario and company were on a downwards spiral, Wii turned it around because people who got Wii for the super casual stuff ended up buying MK and NSMB to complement what they already had.
 
How do people in gaming forums manage to be so disconnected from gaming?

Not only Mario is very successful, it's not farfetched to say Mario "saved" 3DS and could really help WiiU. Yeah, retire it, sure. For real?

Familiarity breeds contempt.

Never underestimate the capacity for hardcore fans of something to hold that thing in the lowest regard, even as they continue to fan over it.
 
Familiarity breeds contempt.

Never underestimate the capacity for hardcore fans of something to hold that thing in the lowest regard, even as they continue to fan over it.
I love this about Nintendo games. People complain Nintendo doesn't try new stuff. Paper Mario Sticker Star tries new ideas. People complain it isn't like other Paper Mario games. If it was? People would scream rehash.

With long running franchises you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
I love this about Nintendo games. People complain Nintendo doesn't try new stuff. Paper Mario Sticker Star tries new ideas. People complain it isn't like other Paper Mario games. If it was? People would scream rehash.

With long running franchises you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
This so much. NSMB? Rehash, sucks. SPM/SS? It's not a TTYD/64 rehash, sucks.
 
I know that these IPs are considered "hardcore" by Nintendo and NeoGAF posters, but the sales of these franchises have been on a declining curve over the last ten years. Frankly, it's strange that in 2013, Nintendo is still touting these characters, and having to hold on to the tropes of these franchises (ie. Zelda dungeons, Mario rescuing Peach from Bowser, Samus recollecting her powerups) is creatively limiting. I would like to see Nintendo build a new stable of AAA franchises without relying on the crutch of these characters.

Cue, Poochie pics.
I'm confused since they already killed Metroid.
 
I know that these IPs are considered "hardcore" by Nintendo and NeoGAF posters, but the sales of these franchises have been on a declining curve over the last ten years. Frankly, it's strange that in 2013, Nintendo is still touting these characters, and having to hold on to the tropes of these franchises (ie. Zelda dungeons, Mario rescuing Peach from Bowser, Samus recollecting her powerups) is creatively limiting. I would like to see Nintendo build a new stable of AAA franchises without relying on the crutch of these characters.

Cue, Poochie pics.



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I love this about Nintendo games. People complain Nintendo doesn't try new stuff. Paper Mario Sticker Star tries new ideas. People complain it isn't like other Paper Mario games. If it was? People would scream rehash.

With long running franchises you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

someone once tried to convince me that people don't actually do this and it's a strawman, it took me a whole 2 minutes to find a reviewer who didn't like NSMB2 because it was too familiar and dissed Paper Mario: SS because it was too new
 
I will never understand people asking for something to be stopped being made. It's a pretty selfish way of thinking. "If I don't like it, then nobody else should like it either." It's the kind of thinking that a toddler who still thinks the world revolve around them has.
 
I need to read the direct thread, must have been some good stuff, its got the jimmys rustled like crazy.

This thread and the other saying they should 'Kill Mario' sound like the pinnacle of sour grapes.
 
A Mario game launched with the Wii U. The fact that the Wii U needs saving in spite of it is only reinforcing OPs theory.

The game still sold over 2 million copies, that is hardly a failure.


Nintendo is makes Mario games for a reason. They are not doing it for their own joy. If they find that Mario is no longer profitable to make, they will stop making it.
 
I love this about Nintendo games. People complain Nintendo doesn't try new stuff. Paper Mario Sticker Star tries new ideas. People complain it isn't like other Paper Mario games. If it was? People would scream rehash.

With long running franchises you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

This so much. NSMB? Rehash, sucks. SPM/SS? It's not a TTYD/64 rehash, sucks.

To be fair, what people who make the claim you're making miss is the fact that "people" is not a homogeneous group. Generally, people who are fans of the old games and have fond memories of them will wish for something similar and complain if it's too different. People who may have liked the old games but crave new experiences will wish for something different, and complain if it's too similar.

While there may be some overlap, generally, it is not the hypocritical situation you are illustrating. It's just the nature of creating products for a diverse public.
 
No they shouldn't. There's always a new generation of kids who can have a chance to love these games.

Huh? Your telling me we aren't the only generation of gamers in existence and there are people born everyday that will one day grow up with Mario and the gang like us? I'm not the only gamer? Nintendo makes games for OTHER people? Whoa :0
 
When I saw the tile, I thought it was a joke post. OP is very ill-informed.

This so much. NSMB? Rehash, sucks. SPM/SS? It's not a TTYD/64 rehash, sucks.

Haha, I seen stuff like this a lot. It really is odd. If anything they can make a new series using those new ideas.
 
Don't mistake the OP for ignorance, dude's a fucking troll going by their post history. Should've been obvious from the moment they tried to imply that mario games don't sell well.
 
I thought the day would never come in which people would be tired of nintendo franchises.

Other developers are chastised by their lack of new IPs, yet nintendo always gets a free pass.

I for one stopped playing the games and buying the systems. That doesn't mean that nintendo can't do whatever they want.
 
I will never understand people asking for something to be stopped being made. It's a pretty selfish way of thinking. "If I don't like it, then nobody else should like it either." It's the kind of thinking that a toddler who still thinks the world revolve around them has.

But the stopping of one thing leads to the creation of a new thing that would have never been made otherwise.

I don't want Call of Duty to exist, but not so that no one else could play it. I want it to no longer exist because it's fucking boring and overdone and I think the massive time and resources going into it could be used for more creative and fresh projects.

The lad's just evaluating his own interests - ones that he's PAYING for (at least, I guess).
 
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