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Great Rumbler said:Do people really take what PR from ANY company say seriously?
only when they say it out loud
Great Rumbler said:Do people really take what PR from ANY company say seriously?
Mariah Carey said:Yes, by addressing and trying to reverse a damaging stereotype the industry is insulting its audience. Understood.
Mariah Carey said:Yes, by addressing and trying to reverse a damaging stereotype the industry is insulting its audience. Understood.
karasu said:Are you serious? Whether you're making movies, music, video games or cupcakes; rule number one should be that you don't insult your audience's intelligence.
Great Rumbler said:Do people really take what PR from ANY company say seriously?
Yeah but it's kind of different in this case because it's not like they are dissing people for going for a competing product, instead they're giving the cold shoulder this general demographic which includes people who like Nintendo systems and games.blame space said:I'm so fucking sick of people complaining about stuff like this. Why do you think something a PR or advertising person says has to affect you? It's almost as bad as that "new Apple campaign dissing Vista downgraders" thread.
I own a Wii, and I play games that I like on it. Apart from that, I don't care who Nintendo's target audience is, and I don't care what their corporate image is.
oo Kosma oo said:Making new shallow stereotypes doesn't help much either.
It's like when woman emancipated themselves , and historians had were obliged to write them into history when there wasn't much to talk about in the first place. That's how a perfectly fine book like Palmer got ruined and filled with nonsense that wasn't really relevant, but was put there just to even the image out.
DeBurgo said:Yeah but it's kind of different in this case because it's not like they are dissing people for going for a competing product, instead they're giving the cold shoulder this general demographic which includes people who like Nintendo systems and games.
It would be more like if Apple came out and suddenly said they didn't like their desktop computer users because they're too nerdy and boring.
Mariah Carey said:I don't think a "'self development, health, beauty and fitness" stereotype is any shallower than what videogame players already have. Aside from the "beauty" aspect, I actually don't see how it's shallow at all.
And LOL at the edited out second paragraph.
That andtyphonsentra said:What are all the games (Actual games, and not just localizations) Nintendo has in the works right now for next year? Here's what I have so far:
- Smash Bros. (Wii)
- Mario Kart (Wii)
- Project O (Wii)
-Disaster (Wii)
- Advance Wars (DS)
- Kirby (DS)
- Fire Emblem (DS)
Agree 100%. Fire who ever put that shit together.oo Kosma oo said:Hey I do my best.
The problem is that Nintendo is both a company and a creative force in the industry, and if the company part gets too strong like now, the creative part will be hurt.
blame space said:Are you serious? Look at the huge amount of shit that's being shoved down millions upon millions of consumer's throats in all of the mediums you mentioned (apart from cupcakes, there's no such thing as a bad cupcake).
Mariah Carey said:I don't think a "'self development, health, beauty and fitness" stereotype is any shallower than what videogame players already have. Aside from the "beauty" aspect, I actually don't see how it's shallow at all.
oo Kosma oo said:Hey I do my best.
I go to the gym, I'm a university student, I go out, I have a girlfriend (don't make her read the second paragraph!!!), I travel. But I don't need any entertainment company trying to shove some PR bs down my throat. It's like when one of your favourite authors would say "hey you know what? I used to write great novels, but they just weren't fun, and the people who read them are so antisocial, from now on I will write chicklit only" The problem is that Nintendo is both a company and a creative force in the industry, and if the company part gets too strong like now, the creative part will be hurt.
karasu said:Exactly. And people complain about it there too. But not even Uwe Boll would call the people who like his films antisoical shut ins. It's just ridiculous. Anybody arguing otherwise is simply suffering from battered wife syndrome. I'm sorry. Something like Wii Sports isn't anymore of a social experience than Halo. And if you really want to strive for a 'normal' sense of social interaction, you take your ass to the tennis court.
Mariah Carey said:Oh, I dunno. I just think you're reading a little too much hostility in this. Nintendo isn't saying "We don't like our nerdy customers and we want cooler ones." They just recognize that there's a perceived negative stereotype about videogames and the people that play them, and they want to erase it.
Dude don't respond to karasu in a Nintendo thread. What are you new?blame space said:Well, let's not equate Wii Sports to shit, because it's not.
My point was, sometimes a company has to capture an extremely large audience in order to keep pleasing their existing one while still growing as they see fit. Nintendo wanted to expand the audience that video games touched (or repackage 10 year old hardware and think of a creative advertising/PR angle if you're a cynic), and in doing so they had to "sell out".
But playing through SMG, who gives a shit?
blame space said:But playing through SMG, who gives a shit?
SolidSnakex said:You give a shit because at least with the Wii it doesn't seem like those types of games are Nintendo's focus.
SolidSnakex said:You give a shit because at least with the Wii it doesn't seem like those types of games are Nintendo's focus.
Hooray! Someone who fucking understands how the machine works and isn't forcing themselves into a pigeon hole based on other people's easily swayed opinions!blame space said:Their focus? I don't care what their focus is. Just like I don't care what Sony Pictures' focus is, I just want to watch movies I'm interested in.
Who cares about what Nintendo's marketing focus is? Nintendo's trying to swindle non gamers out of 250$ so they can finance more Mario Galaxy's. Or at least I hope that's what they're doing.SolidSnakex said:You give a shit because at least with the Wii it doesn't seem like those types of games are Nintendo's focus.
Wait, so Yamauchi isn't crazy at all and deserves credibility? Can someone send me an email when these types of things change.Gigglepoo said:I can't believe they are still spouting this line. Back in the PSX vs. N64 days, Yamauchi said PlayStation gamers locked themselves in dark rooms playing RPGs by themselves. I'm still not sure how Nintendo can rip solitary gamers than release games like Phantom Hourglass and Metriod Prime. I know I wasn't playing those games with a group of people.
EDIT - Found the quote!
From IGN:
"[People who play RPGs are] depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games," he noted in a 1999 interview. Yamauchi - who incidentally has prided himself on the fact that he has never played a videogame - went on to call RPGs as a whole both "silly and boring."
And you fell for Nintendo's marketing ploys. And I bet you don't think they are competing for the same market as Sony/MS.Crayon Shinchan said:This is the sound of Nintendo fans tittering nervously.
Moments before Nintendo announce that they'll be moving out of gaming and into lifestyle treatment software.
Frester said:I never thought I'd see the term "paradigm shift" applied to video games. Wow.
Exactly, thank you.blame space said:I'm so fucking sick of people complaining about stuff like this. Why do you think something a PR or advertising person says has to affect you? It's almost as bad as that "new Apple campaign dissing Vista downgraders" thread.
I own a Wii, and I play games that I like on it. Apart from that, I don't care who Nintendo's target audience is, and I don't care what their corporate image is.
It's messed up that they are addressing the stereotype at all, true of the responder or not. You don't get to replace one stereotype with another "positive" one and come out looking like you have some sort of enlightened message. All stereotypes are fucking stupid.beef3483 said:If somebody takes offense to this, then wouldn't that put them with the stereotype described in the OP?
So Capcom made Mario Galaxy then? I'm confused.
shuri said:can someone just post pics of the mouthbreathers you see at those nintendo events.
Sounds like someone missed Literature Collection DS.Chrono said:Nintendo's next venture: WiiBooks!
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blame space practically tore it to shreds.disappeared said:I don't even know how anybody can respond to bullshit like this.
blame space said:Their focus? I don't care what their focus is. Just like I don't care what Sony Pictures' focus is, I just want to watch movies I'm interested in.
karasu said:That doesn't even make sense. Their focus determines whether they make movies/games you're interested in!
It's like the Wii made all the Nintendo fans "wake-up" and realise they've been playing alot of the same games over and over again. I don't care either way, but this has been Nintendo's best first year ever. Zelda, MP3, Galaxy, instant classics.Vieo said:All I got to say is, Nintendo better make good with the hardcore games and RPGs or I'm going to repurchase PS3! >:T