I take it you're unfamiliar with input lag then.
Add me to the last of people that aren't surprised that they aren't supporting an old inferior audio only output.
SONY gives options, Nintendo doesn't.Sony removed it on the PS4 Slim despite having it on the original and in the Pro , so it has nothing to do with "because Nintendo".
I replied to him just how he replied to me. "us adults"
It's really easy to use your TV as a switcher. Just connect your receiver/soundbar/whatever to your TV via optical, and connect everything else to the TV with HDMI. That way nothing else needs an optical port and you don't need a receiver with a bunch of ports either.
No, your very first post deflected his concern as if it were stupid and that he was mad for a completely different reason.
That comes across as jerkish. Any response after that is probably caused by the snarkyness of your initial response.
I agree they should have included optical, as I still see it on 2017 hardware.
Example: The soundbar I just bought that is manufactured in 2016/17. I was also surprised my PS4 slim doesn't appear to have it.
Moving on.
Yes, OP...you can do this.
Is there some reason you can't do this?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1175592
That is a list of all the Wii U games that actually supported 5.1. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what interface Nintendo uses if they are just going to output stereo. I sincerely doubt support would get better for something that might be marketed or internally viewed as a handheld depending on who you talk to.
It's a bit exaggerated of course but Receivers have had HDMI for 10 years, optical is an old, obsolete, legacy method which doesn't even have the bandwidth for uncompressed 5 channel sound IIRC.
That audio lag doesn't happen with straight hdmi. Its one connection. Lag can happen if you are using one input for video and one for audio. He was saying that you can get lag just by using an hdmi connection on your reciever. That is not correct.
It's really easy to use your TV as a switcher. Just connect your receiver/soundbar/whatever to your TV via optical, and connect everything else to the TV with HDMI. That way nothing else needs an optical port and you don't need a receiver with a bunch of ports either.
The port would be added to the docking station. Theres a LAN adapter available for it, for example.this is a tablet, you can't have everything there
We'll see. How knows, but the PS4 Pro has it and that is less than a year old.I'd be extremely surprised if they did.
Receivers have had HDMI for a decade now.
All the sound that goes through my TV goes to my soundbar so I don't see the problem?
You are conflating input lag with audio desync. Input lag is present on modern TVs to begin with. Running your signal through another device before running it to the TV can add an extra layer of processing, and thus lag, to the system.
They also would have had to license Dolby or DTS to have 5.1 over optical. It's not just the port.The port would be added to the docking station. Theres a LAN adapter available for it, for example.
We'll see. How knows, but the PS4 Pro has it and that is less than a year old.
The port would be added to the docking station. Theres a LAN adapter available for it, for example.
We'll see. How knows, but the PS4 Pro has it and that is less than a year old.
We'll see. How knows, but the PS4 Pro has it and that is less than a year old.
I guess I'm baffled why headphones would use it in 2017 too.
Again, I'm talking about input lag, not out of sync audio.Yes and if you are using hdmi the image and the sound are coming through the same signal at the same time. So how does this affect the sound in any way if it is coming in at the same time as the picture?
Unfortunately optical can't do uncompressed audio like Dolby Digital True HD and DTS HD.
But even more than that, I have heard that many TV's optical outputs are stereo only.
Well, what else would it use? Unless you mean the HDMI cable should go into the headset receiver, meaning it would need another hdmi cable to go out to the tv. Hdmi cables carry a video/audio signal, while optical cables carry a digital audio signal..
True, just wanted to point out that having it would make sense regarding the docking stationThey also would have had to license Dolby or DTS to have 5.1 over optical. It's not just the port.
Sure, and of course not, but its not something thats completely outdated just yet.I mean, it will get cut from all devices eventually. Whether it's next year or five years from now.
Hopefully no one in this thread is under the illusion that it's an eternally standard port.
This is correct, doing optical out from tv to receiver sounds like an easy fix, except you wont get 5.1, just two channel stereo, fuck that.
time to upgrade broI don't see this as a huge deal because the Wii U already dropped it, but's it's amazing how people in threads like this constantly say "it's way out of date", "get a new receiver" when high-end gaming headsets sold on shelves today (like Astro A40s and A50s etc) use optical today, yes, in 2017. So there are valid reasons for the port to exist, not just 10 year old receivers.
Where's my RF Adapter option, Nintendo!?
Wait... Where's the original Bayonetta? Only 2 is listed.That is a list of all the Wii U games that actually supported 5.1. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what interface Nintendo uses if developers are just going to output stereo. I sincerely doubt support would get better for something that might be marketed or internally viewed as a handheld depending on who you talk to.
who uses optical audio nowadays?
Gotta leave behind older points eventually. You can be upset about it, but you shouldn't expect it in 2017.
I don't see this as a huge deal because the Wii U already dropped it, but's it's amazing how people in threads like this constantly say "it's way out of date", "get a new receiver" when high-end gaming headsets sold on shelves today (like Astro A40s and A50s etc) use optical today, yes, in 2017. So there are valid reasons for the port to exist, not just 10 year old receivers.
SONY gives options, Nintendo doesn't.
The standard is shifting towards USB more so. Wouldn't say optical is really a main stay.Again, it's not an old port. It's still the standard for headsets.
Again, it's not an old port. It's still the standard for headsets.
LOL what even is this?
Or they're operating on old receivers that don't support PCM in general. I go from HDMI to my HDMI splitter to an older Bose surround sound system via optical. I get Dolby and DTS 5.1 sound just fine. I don't get PCM however. It sucks.Why would it need to without optical? HDMI supports uncompressed multichannel audio, which is higher quality for us and doesn't cost anything for Nintendo. Win/win.
Or are there receivers that have HDMI but don't support PCM?
Dont see this at e problem, every tv has audio out. So just go from tv out to your receiver.