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Nintendo: "[We] haven't solved' the unified digital account problem yet"
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TheBaronOfNA
Banned
"Those people bitching because the always online in Xbox 1"
Literally less than one day of work. Create account, migrate hardware purchases into account. Done.
Nice to see they acknowledge it.
Please enlighten us more on this glorious switch.
What confuses me is that this isn't a complex technical problem. It isn't something that requires countless engineers working for years to discover.
It's essentially a commodified service that even small businesses are capable of. That means this is a structural problem and not a technical one.
It's essentially a commodified service that even small businesses are capable of. That means this is a structural problem and not a technical one.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
the wiiU account literally does what every other account system does, the only thing it does different is have the account tied to the hardware
Wickerbasket
Member
They should hire some people who know how to do it then.
dcx4610
Member
Virtual Console won't see a dime from me until they have a unified account system. Once they do, they can expect hundreds of dollars.
I feel sorry for anyone who spends a ton of money on their digital libraries only for them to be lost for good if something happens to their system. It's ridiculous as it exists in its current form.
I feel sorry for anyone who spends a ton of money on their digital libraries only for them to be lost for good if something happens to their system. It's ridiculous as it exists in its current form.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
Look, it's simple: until you have a unified accounts system, you are losing sales. Of all the first party developers, I'd have thought a good digital delivery system would've worked wonders for studious known for chucking out unique titles and seeing what ideas stick.
The 3D came out in 2011. It shouldn't even have had a FC system. Every other system under the sun has had an account system for years.
ridethepiggy
Banned
I don't have a problem with it personally. I just refuse to buy digitally from Nintendo so it's all good.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Do not get your hopes up based on these comments. Nintendo will probably not 'solve' this for the next few years. It's not about not being able to solve this. This isn't a puzzle. It's about Nintendo moving away from its stupid, draconian policy.
The PSP, for example.
Sony, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Yahoo, etc. It ain't rocket science and it is absurd they haven't done it.
WrenchNinja
Member
The 3DS came out in 2011, the Wii U came out in 2012, are you trying to say that the OS and network teams never talked to each other in the span of either platform's development? How do you completely botch something like this four times in a row?
Oppo
Member
I totally agree. I'm not giving them a pass. They fucked up by not launching this with Wii U. That is probably adding to the complication for them (having to retrofit a functioning system).
I'm just acknowledging their acknowledgement of the problem
C'mon now. No one had app stores in the 90s. Most didn't have internet at all until '94-95 at earliest. Xbox was end of 2001.Anoregon said:
I would not be shocked if that is exactly what happened.
phosphor112
Banned
Lmfao.
More likely political.
It could damn well have been 'solved' months ago if Nintendo would get their head out of the ground.
They need to be doing all they can to improve consumer confidence in this environment. Their account system is draconian and far behind all of their competitors. Mismanagement at its best.
They need to be doing all they can to improve consumer confidence in this environment. Their account system is draconian and far behind all of their competitors. Mismanagement at its best.
Like the hat?
Banned
Sounds like a miiverse campaign in the making
abstract alien
Member
That is the dumbest shit I've read in a while. I don't even care about having an account system, but this shit is laughable, and I'm a Nintendo fan. What a bullshit thing to say.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
How can they be so incompetent when it comes to this.
It's honestly a shame the Wii did so well. It seems to have made Nintendo completely complacent in regards to attempting to match the other consoles in features and it's really biting them in the ass.
I personally don't buy things on my 3DS store because of this no account system garbage.
I personally don't buy things on my 3DS store because of this no account system garbage.
I hear what you're saying (it makes sense).
But look at the responses here in this thread. Would Nintendo stating anything have made much of a difference? They will ALWAYS be skewered no matter what they say and/or do. Best to just keep quiet and get stuff done in the background, and announce things when they're ready to be announced.
chickdigger802
Banned
What in the world is this guy asking? what games would work better on a 2ds vs 3ds? I guess the dpad looks a bit easier to reach... still am confused.
what else do you call it lol. thats some entitled wording there!
I think they know how to solve it. What I think they don't know how to solve is what they're going to do with all the purchases made up to this point that remain unassigned to accounts.
illmatic22
Banned
Cmon now, shoulda solved this already Nintendo.
They still have to get netcode right first.
Nibel said:
Master/Sub account on PSN.
Adult/Child accounts on XBL.
?????/????? on Nintendo.
Steam/PC is the only one where you can't make children accounts and limit their stuff. But I guess Valve expects you to (rightly so) set up a child/limited account through Windows and OS X and Linux to limit their time.
brandonh83
Banned
I just bought a Wii U and I would fucking love to be able to trade it in toward the purchase of the Zelda bundle, but I can't do that because my eshop purchases are on the console as well as my NNID.
This really is a problem. They really need to do whatever it takes to fix this, and fast.
This really is a problem. They really need to do whatever it takes to fix this, and fast.
At least they're aware, this is much better than when everyone thought they weren't going to do shit.
But still they should be hard at work on that account system, they have no excuse This is also why he was pushing for an overall younger board I think.ot have one ready by now.
Edit: I'm gonna assume Iwata is pushing for the account system, as well all these other moves at NOA, but the dinosaurs at NCL's board were preventing him from implementing this stuff. This is also why he was pushing for a younger board of directors and whatnot.
But still they should be hard at work on that account system, they have no excuse This is also why he was pushing for an overall younger board I think.ot have one ready by now.
Edit: I'm gonna assume Iwata is pushing for the account system, as well all these other moves at NOA, but the dinosaurs at NCL's board were preventing him from implementing this stuff. This is also why he was pushing for a younger board of directors and whatnot.
my guess is that creating an account system for 3DS (and even using Nintendo Network in the backend) isn't the hard part.
It's MIGRATING all of those 3DS systems/users to that system without fucking anyone over AND not opening up holes for exploits in the process.
I think a lot of Nintendo's problem is inability to budge from a corporate decision making standpoint, not necessarily a technical standpoint.
Interfectum
Gold Member
Jawmuncher
Member
Account Systems
Far to complicated for Nintendo to figure out.
Well we can look forward to 2014 and see if that tone changes.
Far to complicated for Nintendo to figure out.
Well we can look forward to 2014 and see if that tone changes.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Yeah, this doesn't seem like a case of "Nintendo can't figure out the internet".
Seems more like "Nintendo doesn't want to do this yet because reasons."
IMO it may relate to them not wanting to invest in the infrastructure and management headache of dealing with user accounts that can be stolen, hacked, and socially engineered. Every Pokemon kid with a 3DS and a digital copy of Pokemon becomes a potential target for bad people to steal a name and password from, go making charges if a credit card is entered into the account, etc.
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