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No girly-men allowed: Official Contra 4 shut-up-and-shoot Thread
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ThirstyFly
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Lee N said:
:lol :lol :lol
Did you draw that?
Finally got around to playing this.. this game is so awesome!!
some things about it remind me of contra 3 and some things remind me of contra 1.
i think this game is way more difficult than both of those though.
This is exactly how to return to a old school series... REALLY well done.
now to try to beat it on normal!
some things about it remind me of contra 3 and some things remind me of contra 1.
i think this game is way more difficult than both of those though.
This is exactly how to return to a old school series... REALLY well done.
now to try to beat it on normal!
Little Green Yoda
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I'm considering getting this game. I'm sure the replay value is through the roof, but for somebody who's new to the series, am I going to get extremely frustrated with the difficulty?
Just how steep is the learning curve?
Just how steep is the learning curve?
Little Green Yoda said:
If you've never played a Contra game, prepared to get your ass handed down to you many times, even on Easy. It's all about repeating stage after stage and memorizing the enemies and when to shoot and when to jump. Don't get discouraged though, the game maybe hard at first, but the boss battles are epic and game ending is worth it, also you can unlock Classic Contra 1 and 2 after defeating any of the difficulties first and doing certain game challenges that are in a "new" setting that pops up.
One thing I'll say is that I think it's a different kind of hard. Every time you die there's a clear reason, like say you weren't paying attention to some guy shooting at you from above, or you didn't jump at the right time.Little Green Yoda said:
I don't find it frustrating because I find that every time I play I get incrementally better because I start to learn what to watch out for.
ThirstyFly
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lyre said:
Huh?
ThirstyFly
Member
Narag said:
I know what level one in Contra is like. My "Huh?" was in reference to lyre's "There is no learning curve" statement, then in his very next sentence he says "you learn...", pretty much contradicting himself, which is why I bolded what I was referring to.
Anyway, of course there's a learning curve. It may not be as stiff and unforgiving as Shattered Soldier if you don't memorize every enemy placement and boss patterns, but you still greatly benefit from those things. It's also a good idea to play though different sections with different weapons to see which are best for each situation since relying on Spread only hasn't been a good idea since Super C. You need to learn the correct weapon and constantly change what you're carrying (thank god for the frequent item drops in C4) if you really want to perform well.
jibblypop said:
Don't worry, it takes everyone a while to beat normal. If they say otherwise, they're a dirty liar! And the challenge mode is awesome, but soon it'll have to swearing with words you didn't even know you knew.
wackojackosnose
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This is one of my favourite games for the DS, though I still haven't beaten it.
It's one of the purest games from this generation (from a gameplay point of view). All you do is run, jump and shoot. None of the other bullshit cut scenes and dialogue from other games.
And the difficulty is perfect, in the sense that death and failure is your fault because you were too girly(!) or weren't paying enough attention. Every time you die you get that little bit better (why can't real life be like this?).
Easily an 8 or 9 out of 10 game.
It's one of the purest games from this generation (from a gameplay point of view). All you do is run, jump and shoot. None of the other bullshit cut scenes and dialogue from other games.
And the difficulty is perfect, in the sense that death and failure is your fault because you were too girly(!) or weren't paying enough attention. Every time you die you get that little bit better (why can't real life be like this?).
Easily an 8 or 9 out of 10 game.
This is the motherfucking hardest game ever invented and designed and holy fuck. I've never played a contra before so I don't know quite what I'm doing but seriously this game on easy is unbelievably hard.
Quality game though. I really disliked the XBLA version but this one seems to work so much better. Dunno why. Maybe I should give that another try.
Am I right in seeing you can unlock the full contra 1 and 2 games? That's pretty sweet.
Quality game though. I really disliked the XBLA version but this one seems to work so much better. Dunno why. Maybe I should give that another try.
Am I right in seeing you can unlock the full contra 1 and 2 games? That's pretty sweet.
I still contend that Contra IV is much easier than the NES Contras.
In Contra IV pretty much every obstacle is based on a pattern or triggered depending on where you're standing. So it's super easy to predict what's going to happen and what to dodge with some trial and error.
In the NES Contras, I'm guessing because of memory constraints, so many elements are completely randomized, so it's hard to predict exactly where the next bullet is going to come from.
In Contra IV pretty much every obstacle is based on a pattern or triggered depending on where you're standing. So it's super easy to predict what's going to happen and what to dodge with some trial and error.
In the NES Contras, I'm guessing because of memory constraints, so many elements are completely randomized, so it's hard to predict exactly where the next bullet is going to come from.
sykoex said:
I disagree, I finished Contra 1 and 2, w/out using the 30 life cheat code on both of them. It was rather easy for me, blazing through it, hell even when I first played Contra 2, I made it to Level 6 before using all my continues. I would've never done that in the NES days, if I didn't use the life cheat code. Contra 4 was more frustrating in terms of trying to master each pattern and when to use certain weapons best for each stage, since some of the bosses can be dispatched easily, using certain weapons.
Little Green Yoda
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Only took me 3 days (lol) but I finally cleared Easy mode. Challenge mode, here I come!
Also, the
Also, the
second part of the level 6's boss is a pain in the ass to beat with the standard pea-shooter. I was thisclose to just burning a continue to replay the level so I could get a better weapon until I realized that tapping the fire button resulted in a faster fire rate than holding down the button.
RocketDarkness
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sykoex said:
You know you can one-shot the pilot if you climb up to the railing before he appears, then jump and fire as he comes onto the screen, right?
Random Fact: Black Viper's theme was, at some point, supposed to have the "Crossfire" theme in it, but I don't think that ever happened. (Yes, the old commercial. "Black viper~ Black viper~ Black Vipeeeeeeeeeeeeer!")
Contra Hard Corps on Genesis was miserably hard. I never got around to beating it, but got fairly far at one point. Amazing game for the Genesis with some really great effects.
SNES Contra was great, but definitely not as hard as other Contras.
Contra 4 on DS is bitch tough so far from what I've played, but I really like it, and the Bionic Commando style grappling hook is a nice addition to the gameplay. IMO this game is the right way to revive a classic 2D series. Not try to make it 3D or stuff it full of trendy crap (i.e. anime art like Castlevania), just take what made the game tick and build on it.
SNES Contra was great, but definitely not as hard as other Contras.
Contra 4 on DS is bitch tough so far from what I've played, but I really like it, and the Bionic Commando style grappling hook is a nice addition to the gameplay. IMO this game is the right way to revive a classic 2D series. Not try to make it 3D or stuff it full of trendy crap (i.e. anime art like Castlevania), just take what made the game tick and build on it.
Just picked up Contra 4, which makes for the first DS game I've bought since 2005.
So far I'm lovin' it
This is how a revival should be done, with sprites. Gawd, I wish every game that was originally made in sprites that gets revived could be done in better 2D like this.
R-Type
Gradius
Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Castlevania
Alien Syndrome
Golden Axe
These all need revivals that are at least on par with what WayForward & Konami have done with C4.
So far I'm lovin' it
This is how a revival should be done, with sprites. Gawd, I wish every game that was originally made in sprites that gets revived could be done in better 2D like this.
R-Type
Gradius
Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Castlevania
Alien Syndrome
Golden Axe
These all need revivals that are at least on par with what WayForward & Konami have done with C4.
Crescendo170
Member
This game put WayForward on my radar. Captures the essence of Contra perfectly. The last boss is
pretty lame though.
Garcia
Member
This game is insane.
For the first time in a long time I had to play through on Easy just to fucking know how the Level 6 looked like :lol.
Awesome. I'm yet to beat this bastard on Normal. I reached the last couple of levels in the morning and I reached that part with all 4 continues, then I lost them all in the very last one.
The difficulty is amazing. It's really hard since you have to pay attention to every single angle in both screens, but as soon as you start to memorize enemy positions and patterns it just flows.
So far a very good 9.5 out of 10 in my opinion. And I'm betting the last boss will be fucking fantastic.
For the first time in a long time I had to play through on Easy just to fucking know how the Level 6 looked like :lol.
Awesome. I'm yet to beat this bastard on Normal. I reached the last couple of levels in the morning and I reached that part with all 4 continues, then I lost them all in the very last one.
The difficulty is amazing. It's really hard since you have to pay attention to every single angle in both screens, but as soon as you start to memorize enemy positions and patterns it just flows.
So far a very good 9.5 out of 10 in my opinion. And I'm betting the last boss will be fucking fantastic.
Cool , someone bumped this, I'd honestly forgotten I had this for some reason because I played it so much last year. I never did beat it on normal or finish the challenge mode, the best thing is when you start a game on hard because the music turns fuck-awesome on the first stage.
Who wants to see wayforward make a castlevania V now ?
Who wants to see wayforward make a castlevania V now ?
I gotta play this again. I beat normal and challenge mode, now I'd like to beat it on hard. But I'm sure if I start again I'll have to play on easy first to get back into the groove.
That'd be cool. I'd also love for them to bring back Rocket Knight Adventures/Sparkster.Pachinko said:
Finally got around to finishing all of the challenges and unlocking everything (yeah yeah, shame on me and my bald chin and nonexistant chest hairs) and now I can focus on 1 lifing Normal mode.
Also I read thru all of the thread (I didn't originally) and no one has mentioned this but all of the unlock-able characters have an alternate colour costume; at first I thought this was a glitch due to the DSi but it also works on the DSL:
Select one of the optional characters (assuming you aren't using one)
Go to Challenge mode
Exit
Go back to Character select
Select the immediate character and confirm.
This alternate colour remains even if you turn the game off. It's a nice little easter eggs of sorts.
For those who don't want to dig up their carts:
Lucia/Sheena: Red
Probotector: Blue
Sully: Green
Jimbo: Purple (these two colours could be flipped).
And obligatory "Where's Contra 5!?"
Also I read thru all of the thread (I didn't originally) and no one has mentioned this but all of the unlock-able characters have an alternate colour costume; at first I thought this was a glitch due to the DSi but it also works on the DSL:
Select one of the optional characters (assuming you aren't using one)
Go to Challenge mode
Exit
Go back to Character select
Select the immediate character and confirm.
This alternate colour remains even if you turn the game off. It's a nice little easter eggs of sorts.
For those who don't want to dig up their carts:
Lucia/Sheena: Red
Probotector: Blue
Sully: Green
Jimbo: Purple (these two colours could be flipped).
And obligatory "Where's Contra 5!?"