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[bigDave]

there's something strange

he said

There is no such thing as one ship being combat oriented and another being trade oriented - all ships can do all things. You can slot them up however you want. It's dirt simple.

but didn't Sean confirmed multiple class ships?

 

[Klyka]

On the question: "How are space stations?"

Very boring. 2-4 rooms each time, one room always has a suit upgrade module, one room always has resources to take, the other 2 random rooms can have small variance on what's inside (more resources, some upgrade modules) and there's like a 50/50 chance for an NPC to be in the right side room. They are very cut and paste, don't expect much from them. Ships do come and go frequently though, Sean was right about it being a "ship showroom"

I had a feeling that buildings would all be very restricted

 

[Houndi101]

No you get credits when you finish the level on a roguelike?

I don't know, I do not like roguelikes, I would guess you would after a "run"?

 

[BreezyLimbo]

there's something strange

he said



but didn't Sean confirmed multiple class ships?

He did

 

[metareferential]

Why not outright say what's in the center? I don't buy the "being a good guy" angle.

And is it really that big of a surprise knowing that from one galaxy's center you go to another one?

 

[Klyka]

Why not outright say what's in the center? I don't buy the "being a good guy" angle.

And is it really that big of a surprise knowing that from one galaxy's center you go to another one?

I told him to do it, he responded he doesn't want to ruin the game for millions of people because the moment he posts it all publications will run it.

 

[travisbickle]

there's something strange

he said



but didn't Sean confirmed multiple class ships?

Yeah. I think we need more than one person playing this game. I assumed different races would give you tools/ships that had different strengths.

 

[metareferential]

I told him to do it, he responded he doesn't want to ruin the game for millions of people because the moment he posts it all publications will run it.

That's some ego, if I ever saw one xD

Still, smells like bullshit.

 

[danowat]

I told him to do it, he responded he doesn't want to ruin the game for millions of people because the moment he posts it all publications will run it.

'Ruin' sounds ominous.

 

[Klyka]

'Ruin' sounds ominous.

i think he means "ruin the experience of finding out yourself"

 

[greatgeek]

That's some ego, if I ever saw one xD

Still, smells like bullshit.

Well, his leak has already been covered by gaming press.

 

[maxcriden]

It's a good point, but I fail to see how, or why, a proc-gen game like this would only allow the player to access a single galaxy.

I think the 18 trillion planets thing may have been taken out of context, maybe it was 18 trillion possible combinations of planets for the generation of each separate galaxy?

I hear ya. I want there to be more galaxies. Incidentally I missed your post in the other thread.

Edit:

He has been pressed, there are multiple galaxies but they aren't part of a universe each one is a separate instance.
No overarching goal, get to the centre of one galaxy, you start another.

I didn't know the guy was pressed and said this outright or at least made it clear in essence. I understand better now. Thanks Dan. ☺

I guess for whatever reason I was concerned there weren't definitively multiple galaxies beyond each player's individual game, so knowing you can access different ones (presumably in this fashion) sounds really neat.

 

[doop_]

Eeeeek I wasn't as hyped as some of you but all of this new information and video has made me disappointed...

 

[Draper]

That's some ego, if I ever saw one xD

Still, smells like bullshit.

You...you think he's making it all up?

 

[Kinitari]

So I'm going to go with my gut here from reading his comments -

This is a new game+ infinite loop universe.

When you get to the centre, you jump to a new galaxy, which is newly generated based on the things done in your first pass through the universe + other factors, maybe random factors.

Everyone shares the same first galaxy, but everyone creates new galaxies. And it gets tougher the second time through, planets get weirder, aliens vary in size and in general stuff gets wonkier.

I imagine you carry other things from previous plays as well.

 

[metareferential]

You...you think he's making it all up?

Of course not. His attitude smells like bullshit.

And if danowat is correct, we all knew from the beginning how the game works.

And I really can't see where that is a disappointment.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Come on folks, put it together, it's obvious now.

 

[perfectsil]

Sounds like there's no center of the universe to reach, once you reach the center of a galaxy you start on another galaxy and on and on

No way to go back to a previous Galaxy, no way to go to a friend's Galaxy (with the extremely unlikely event you spawn on the same seed Galaxy)

 

[Houndi101]

Of course not. His attitude smells like bullshit.

And if danowat is correct, we all knew from the beginning how the game works.

And I really can't see where that is a disappointment.

I actually hoped there would be multiple galaxies that would lead to the center of universe and end credits, guess I was foolish

 

[metareferential]

I actually hoped there would be multiple galaxies that would lead to the center of universe and end credits, guess I was foolish

But that would have meant basically no one seeing the end credits xD

 

[maxcriden]

A redditor asks:

The prime question here is whether you can go to different galaxies. Sure, no center of the universe. That's fine. But I assume you've gone to at least one other galaxy...So is it the same?

the leaker responds:

It is the same.

Thought this was worth cross-posting.

Edit: Given the new confirmation on the page after this, I think this must have been some sort of misunderstanding.

 

[N° 2048]

edit; frustrated. I'm out.

 

[danowat]

So I'm going to go with my gut here from reading his comments -

This is a new game+ infinite loop universe.

When you get to the centre, you jump to a new galaxy, which is newly generated based on the things done in your first pass through the universe + other factors, maybe random factors.

Everyone shares the same first galaxy, but everyone creates new galaxies. And it gets tougher the second time through, planets get weirder, aliens vary in size and in general stuff gets wonkier.

I imagine you carry other things from previous plays as well.

I think that sounds plausible, but we've got to remember this is all based from a single guys playthrough.

Let's hope he's not trolling us all....

 

[Kaversmed]

If these recent news about connected galaxies are true, then that is quite disappointing tbh. I was kinda hoping it would be one big universe with several galaxies that you could travel to and from at your own will. To me, that ruins the fantasy about being "let loose" in an open universe. Before I go all crybaby on you I will wait for more info. It might not be as bad as it sounds.

 

[Pestilence11]

My hype balloon.

 

[SparkTR]

Of course not. His attitude smells like bullshit.

And if danowat is correct, we all knew from the beginning how the game works.

And I really can't see where that is a disappointment.

I think the main issue is people were expecting reaching the centre to be a LONG involved community driven process that would be of significance (like the FEZ zeitgiest and whatnot). Hell, some people where concerned about the hackers (aka the boogeyman) tampering with the PC version in order to race to the centre to ruin the surprise. The fact that it seems to be a kinda repetitive ~25 hours (or more depending) for a NG+ is so far off what I expected as a minimum.

 

[TheKingOfPain]

It's complicated... basically ships are 100% cosmetic, for the most part. There is no such thing as one ship being combat oriented and another being trade oriented - all ships can do all things. You can slot them up however you want. It's dirt simple.
The more slots you have, the more upgrades you can equip, the better your ship becomes.
Same for your gun, same for your suit. My suit has a TON of slots now, my gun as well - many many times the number they had at the start.
My ship, not so much. I bought one ship 3 hours in and I'm still using that same ship because I haven't found a single upgrade to it the entire time.

Sorry, let me rephrase the ship thing -
I've Upgraded my ship itself with better modules but I haven't "upgraded" as in bought a bigger better ship yet.
But yes, I've fully upgraded it's hyper drive.

BTW, he's not using the term Universe because the term is not used in the game which takes place in a Galaxy, simple as that. He's neither denying nor confirming there are multiple galaxies, he's just saying that the "hierarchy" is System->Galaxy, and the goal is to reach the centre of the Galaxy.

Oh, he also said he never died.

 

[Houndi101]

Thought this was worth cross-posting.

This has to be some sort of misunderstanding..

 

[Karspankey]

Wait, I'm not sure what everyone is on about? Every time they had that pullback showing off all the solar systems, it was always inside that galaxy and there would be the center of that galaxy. How is anything our boy is saying make a difference? Some people are too hung up on words when all you have to do is look at what we've actually been shown.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

I think the main issue is people were expecting reaching the centre to be a LONG involved community driven process that would be of significance (like the FEZ zeitgiest and whatnot). Hell, some people where concerned about the hackers (aka the boogeyman) tampering with the PC version in order race to the centre to ruin the surprise. The fact that it seems to be a kinda repetitive ~25 hours for a NG+ is so far off what I expected.

Yeah, I hoped it would be something like noby noby boy at the very least.

 

[dripdripsplash]

So I'm going to go with my gut here from reading his comments -

This is a new game+ infinite loop universe.

When you get to the centre, you jump to a new galaxy, which is newly generated based on the things done in your first pass through the universe + other factors, maybe random factors.

Everyone shares the same first galaxy, but everyone creates new galaxies. And it gets tougher the second time through, planets get weirder, aliens vary in size and in general stuff gets wonkier.

I imagine you carry other things from previous plays as well.

I imagined that would happen as you got closer to the center of the first Galaxy not in "NG+".

Also since it is supposed to take around 40-100 hours depending on play style to reach the center then that's a whole lot of hours to get to experience the 'weird' aspects of the game.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

My hype balloon.

Why? It's going to be fantastic. I just hope the guy stops playing now so we don't find anything out about the playthough in the second galaxy.

 

[metareferential]

I think the main issue is people were expecting reaching the centre to be a LONG, involved community driven process that would be of significance (like the FEZ zeitgiest and whatnot). Hell, some people where concerned about the hackers (boogeyman) tampering with the PC version in order to ruin the surprise. The fact that it seems to be a pretty standard/repetative ~25 hours for a NG+ is so far off what I expected.

Well, 30 hours of basically speed-running exploiting the - currently broken by design (so no one is offended) - economy is pretty good for me.

I mean, I'll be going slow and pretty much randomly in my first galaxy. Isn't that exploring? I mean, if you follow a path it's not exploration.

 

[danowat]

Wait, I'm not sure what everyone is on about? Every time they had that pullback showing off all the solar systems, it was always inside that galaxy and there would be the center of that galaxy. How is anything our boy is saying make a difference? Some people are too hung up on words when all you have to do is look at what we've actually been shown.

I think some people assumed each galaxy was a part of an overarching universe, not a separate instanced entity.

 

[Uiki]

BTW, he's not using the term Universe because the term is not used in the game which takes place in a Galaxy, simple as that. He's neither denying nor confirming there are multiple galaxies, he's just saying that the "hierarchy" is System->Galaxy, and the goal is to reach the centre of the Galaxy.

Oh, he also said he never died.

Everything kills you!

 

[GHG]

So wait, its not actually a universe but just a single galaxy?

Wtf.

 

[XxRampage07xX]

So, is the center of the galaxy basically a wormhole that will lead players to another galaxy?

 

[The Blueprint]

*Cancels preorder*

 

[Fret]

I think this is the beginning of a very large backlash against this game

 

[danowat]

So wait, its not actually a universe but just a single galaxy?

Wtf.

Not a single galaxy, just each galaxy is a separate instanced entity.

So, is the center of the galaxy basicaly a wormhole that will lead players to another galaxy?

No one knows for sure yet, but if you take what Reddit guy has written it's a logical conclusion.

 

[dripdripsplash]

BTW, he's not using the term Universe because the term is not used in the game which takes place in a Galaxy, simple as that. He's neither denying nor confirming there are multiple galaxies, he's just saying that the "hierarchy" is System->Galaxy, and the goal is to reach the centre of the Galaxy.

Oh, he also said he never died.

He never died either ?

Damn. I guess that warning robot voice is doing a good job then.

 

[Kinitari]

This has to be some sort of misunderstanding..

Well, I think it's important that we remember that this is what we get for getting into spoiler territory, the poster doesn't want to be clear about what he saw, so there are going to be misunderstandings mixed with speculation mixed with the truth.

One thing he mentions is that he upgraded everything, but in another post he mentions that he hasn't really tried out a lot of the tech. His "upgraded everything" seems to be about upgrading things like the range of jumps for the ship.

He also seems to either misunderstand how these upgrades work, or they are fundamentally broken. He mentions upgrades to the beam gun for mining - this is where he mentions he only tried a few upgrades for his gun - but he thinks the beam upgrade is broken because the more he upgrades, the worse it seems to work - ie, his starting gun was the best and every beam upgrade makes it worse.

Now I doubt that's the intent of the upgrades. And either the devs didn't realize this was happening (hiiiiighly doubt that) or this guy is misunderstanding some core gameplay elements.

 

[Chezzymann]

Yes, there was life on every planet. Every single one. But, keep in mind, the life itself VARIED dramatically - when I found life on the "Fauna: None" planets, it was seriously stupid shit like prairie dogs. I wasn't encountering giant rhinos or anything. I THINK, although I could be wrong, but I THINK Sean's "90% of planets are bone dry" comment was in reference to planets LOADED with life. Or they just changed their mind last second - who knows.

Uuuugh. This has me really disappointed. Seriously contemplating if I want the game now. Finding life to me should be an exciting thing, something surprising. There should be a "pacing" to exploration or it gets old quick.

If every planet is super cool and filled with life, even if it's varied, that to me in an exploration game is the equivalent of the climax in a movie lastimg the full 2 hours.

 

[Houndi101]

I think this is the beginning of a very large backlash against this game

Spored.

 

[Kaversmed]

I think this is the beginning of a very large backlash against this game

I can already see it. This is Destiny levels of backlash.

Spoiler

Please be good dammit!

 

[GHG]

No one knows for sure yet, but if you take what Reddit guy has written it's a logical conclusion.

This doesn't whether I'm interested in the game or not because a single galaxy is still pretty huge and its a game I know I'll enjoy but to call a spade a spade... If its not actually a universe then we have been lied to.

 

[Uiki]

Spored.

No Man's Sky |OT| Spored

 

[GribbleGrunger]

LOL. I'm just gob smacked. This is a time to be excited for the game not disappointed. What we've just been told is GREAT news. Don't some of you understand?

edit: the ignorance is beyond belief.

 

[Karspankey]

I think this is the beginning of a very large backlash against this game

And it'll all be self inflicted. Idk how anyone could be so misinformed when Sean has always done that pullback. It was always annoying because I already understood, but I see now why he might have done it. There is literally nothing to be worried about or anything new/shocking.

 

[ant_]

I think this is the beginning of a very large backlash against this game

It's sad because the people at fault for the backlash are none other than the biggest fans of the game. The expectations surrounding this game are insane, especially for it being such a small studio.