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[mokeyjoe]

Haha oh man, i cant wait until the first company does a release like this, with the game starting at say €100 and slowly dropping down in price to the normal release price over the course of 2-4 weeks.

Essentially that already happens. Games get cheaper over time. Not quite the same, but companies will charge what they think they can for a game. I think there'd be a backlash if they priced them super high though, even if some people would buy them.

Then again I remember when Street Fighter 2 imports went in sale in the UK they would fetch over £100. People will always pay if they want it badly enough.

 

[ironcreed]

That's a non answer. When one says 40-50 planets is a rushed run one must have an idea what's a good run.

A non answer? LOL, whatever you say. But as for Dameeuhn's play through, he even said himself that he pushed it hard to get to the center. And just because he did not find many planets that he found particularly amazing does not mean that you can't find any. I know some of what was showed in the stream from the other guy last night would certainly give me pause to hang around.

At any rate, I intend to take my time and see what all can be generated and only then will I know for sure. But even then it's still a space sim without the typical dryness and convoluted bullshit and is meant to be enjoyed like that. Not some game where I see an ending and that's it.

 

[theWB27]

asinine, reductive interpretation. People are claiming those things add depth. if that's "depth," then I'm the queen.

It has depth though.

 

[runnin_blue]

Wow.

I had no particular interest in this game other than maybe some basic curiosity. Popped into this thread just to get an idea on what people thought of the game and here I am having read the entire thing. Could not look away. What a freak show. Wasted my day, but the experience was worth it as a kind of social study.

One thing I've found of particular interest is how some people continuously ignore the fact that the original leaker explicitly stated that he intentionally did not rush to the centre, but wasted time in between as he knew he could get there within 10 hours at one point. It's been mentioned and quoted multiple times, yet they ignore it and continue to shout the "rushed rushed rushed" theme.

Baffling.

But don't mind me, please continue. It's not bedtime just yet and I have a full glass of wine.

 

[stump sock]

But don't mind me, please continue. It's not bedtime just yet and I have a full glass of wine.

nah, you're absolutely right. but he still played it "wrong," somehow

I'll let you know when I figure out how

 

[Octavianus]

This thread and the NMS Reddit are the best things on the internet right now. Just amazing.

 

[mokeyjoe]

Wow.

I had no particular interest in this game other than maybe some basic curiosity. Popped into this thread just to get an idea on what people thought of the game and here I am having read the entire thing. Could not look away. What a freak show. Wasted my day, but the experience was worth it as a kind of social study.

One thing I've found of particular interest is how some people continuously ignore the fact that the original leaker explicitly stated that he intentionally did not rush to the centre, but wasted time in between as he knew he could get there within 10 hours at one point. It's been mentioned and quoted multiple times, yet they ignore it and continue to shout the "rushed rushed rushed" theme.

Baffling.

But don't mind me, please continue. It's not bedtime just yet and I have a full glass of wine.

Also, as he said, the game is essentially endless, the centre of the galaxy isn't a big deal, it doesn't pop a trophy even. It just takes you to the next galaxy. So this 30 hours, centre of the galaxy thing is kind of moot however you look at it. I suppose you can count it as an end if you want an end, he's still playing.

 

[Kimaka]

Did HG ever show a gameplay demo that showcased the average player experience? At best we got some b-roll some time ago. These little one-minute trailers we recently got at best obfuscated what the game was about. While I agree that people let their hype get the best of them, I also believe HG let that happen. WHAT DO YOU DO became kind of a meme with this game, but for the longest time it was a legitimate question. And some people are just now finding out what is it that you do in these leaked videos.

The IGN First video and the E3 2015 demo. Land on planets, mine, look around at the landscape and animals, learn words from monoliths, crafting, shoot stuff if you want. Same stuff we are seeing out of the leakers. I don't know what else anyone was expecting.

 

[Ostinatto]

Wow.

I had no particular interest in this game other than maybe some basic curiosity. Popped into this thread just to get an idea on what people thought of the game and here I am having read the entire thing. Could not look away. What a freak show. Wasted my day, but the experience was worth it as a kind of social study.

One thing I've found of particular interest is how some people continuously ignore the fact that the original leaker explicitly stated that he intentionally did not rush to the centre, but wasted time in between as he knew he could get there within 10 hours at one point. It's been mentioned and quoted multiple times, yet they ignore it and continue to shout the "rushed rushed rushed" theme.

Baffling.

But don't mind me, please continue. It's not bedtime just yet and I have a full glass of wine.

But he did rushed

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Haha oh man, i cant wait until the first company does a release like this, with the game starting at say €100 and slowly dropping down in price to the normal release price over the course of 2-4 weeks.

Battlefield 1 is coming out a whole three days early with the $80 version.

 

[Sylas]

Wow.

I had no particular interest in this game other than maybe some basic curiosity. Popped into this thread just to get an idea on what people thought of the game and here I am having read the entire thing. Could not look away. What a freak show. Wasted my day, but the experience was worth it as a kind of social study.

One thing I've found of particular interest is how some people continuously ignore the fact that the original leaker explicitly stated that he intentionally did not rush to the centre, but wasted time in between as he knew he could get there within 10 hours at one point. It's been mentioned and quoted multiple times, yet they ignore it and continue to shout the "rushed rushed rushed" theme.

Baffling.

But don't mind me, please continue. It's not bedtime just yet and I have a full glass of wine.

Again, rushing is a very different thing depending on who you're talking to. He 100% rushed if he sat down for a 2-3 days and played through the game. I level like a fiend in MMOs and I don't consider it rushing, but I typically hit the cap a solid 3-4 days before any of my friends do. That's rushing even though I look at it and go, "I didn't go any faster than I normally would!"

I wish I had time to play the game as much as this guy apparently did. It's gonna take me double the time, more than likely, because I'm only gonna be playing for 2-3 hour chunks at a time. It's how you have some people beating Persona 4 in 30-50 hours and how you have other people taking 100+ hours to beat the game.

 

[labx]

Are you confirming PVP? , i would gladly hide behind an asteroid and then shot people down and take all their shit

I'm assuming the plot of the game. And yes PVP the ultimate game changer. Get ready bois.

 

[March of the Crabs]

After reading through this thread, Reddit, the leaker's comments etc. I'm actually MORE excited for this game. It looks exactly how I wanted. I work full time and am in school full-time, so I can't just sit around gaming all day. I get about 2 hours a week of free time. The fact I can maybe actually feel like I am progressing in this game is unexpected but welcomed.

 

[mokeyjoe]

Again, rushing is a very different thing depending on who you're talking to. He 100% rushed if he sat down for a 2-3 days and played through the game. I level like a fiend in MMOs and I don't consider it rushing, but I typically hit the cap a solid 3-4 days before any of my friends do. That's rushing even though I look at it and go, "I didn't go any faster than I normally would!"

I wish I had time to play the game as much as this guy apparently did. It's gonna take me double the time, more than likely, because I'm only gonna be playing for 2-3 hour chunks at a time.

He wasn't properly rushing it. He said if someone watched a video on how to min-max things and target the apparent exploit they could get through it in "20-30 hours easy". I think he took somewhere just over 30.

But I mean he did rush it in real time terms. 30 hours is 2 or 3 weeks gaming for me, lol.

Once again though, he made a point in stating there's really no actual end to the game. The centre is more of a milestone.

 

[runnin_blue]

Again, rushing is a very different thing depending on who you're talking to. He 100% rushed if he sat down for a 2-3 days and played through the game. I level like a fiend in MMOs and I don't consider it rushing, but I typically hit the cap a solid 3-4 days before any of my friends do. That's rushing even though I look at it and go, "I didn't go any faster than I normally would!"

I wish I had time to play the game as much as this guy apparently did. It's gonna take me double the time, more than likely, because I'm only gonna be playing for 2-3 hour chunks at a time.

If he fitted his playing hours into a lesser amount of days than you, yet you played the same amount of hours total, that is not rushed in the sense that some people are using it. "Marathoned" is a better word for what you are saying. Like when you marathon an entire tv show in a few days.

That is not how some people are choosing to use the "rushed" inference in here.

 

[Emperor_Uriel]

Been playing Starbound to kill time until release.
If I end up liking Starbound more than NMS, I may never recover.

Seriously, my big concerns so far, having not seen the new Youtube or Google Drive vids (both are down/unavailable) are:

1. No truly massive, unusual creatures like the "sand snake" from the announcement trailer.

2. Low variety in planets.

3. Glitches effecting core mechanics (weird glitches are fine as long as they don't mess with the fundamental gameplay).

I do wonder if the dreams of encountering massive Leviathans in oceans or finding alien settlements will collapse over the following days. Impressions make everything seem very samey so far.

I'm assuming the plot of the game. And yes PVP the ultimate game changer. Get ready bois.

I hope not. You know hackers are going to find a way to teleport to people and kill them.

 

[DeepEnigma]

When he left the atmosphere the first time and started to cruise above and around the planet my jaw dropped. It is actually planet-sized big in the game. Then he zips back down and finds a crashed ship, an old base and some weird life. Literally dream come true type stuff that this game is pulling off.

The crazy part was that it would have taken him over 7 minutes to reach there at standard flight speed. And that was just a point on a planet!

I tell you what. It is going to be extremely easy to forgive this game for any odd bugs or other things that it does not do because of what it does do. It is absolutely remarkable and I have only dreamed about being able to do this kind of stuff in a game until now.

Completely agreed. The atmosphere/music/etc., alone is space exploration bliss for me. I am going to get lost in this game. Buying Sony Golds to add to the overall immersion. And if they add PSVR support, forget everything, lol.

The presentation is top tier.

The streamers have explored about 60 planets max out of 18 quintillion. The crazy stuff is going to be hard to find, if they'd seen a bunch already it would be more worrying.

Yeah, lol.

 

[mokeyjoe]

Been playing Starbound to kill time until release.
If I end up liking Starbound more than NMS, I may never recover.

Seriously, my big concerns so far, having not seen the new Youtube or Google Drive vids (both are down/unavailable) are:

1. No truly massive, unusual creatures like the "sand snake" from the announcement trailer.

2. Low variety in planets.

3. Glitches effecting core mechanics (weird glitches are fine as long as they don't mess with the fundamental gameplay).

I do wonder if the dreams of encountering massive Leviathans in oceans or finding alien settlements will collapse over the following days. Impressions make everything seem very samey so far.

The streamers have explored about 60 planets max out of 18 quintillion. The crazy stuff is going to be hard to find, if they'd seen a bunch already it would be more worrying.

The planets vary as much as all the footage we've seen,it seems a reasonable amount of variation, I'm not sure what else there could be.

The glitches are a problem though, but I mean they already started working on the first update the day after the game went gold. So it's moot unless you're someone with no internet access ever.

 

[Afrodium]

Sorry if this had been answered a million times, but why are we now taking about the center of the galaxy? What happened to the center of the universe?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Completely agreed. The atmosphere/music/etc., alone is space exploration bliss for me. I am going to get lost in this game. Buying Sony Golds to add to the overall immersion. And if they add PSVR support, forget everything, lol.

The presentation is top tier.

I've got some nice virtual surround sound set up through a DAC with my Pulse Elites (better quality sound than the dongle). I purposely muted the few minutes of leaks I watched because I wanted to go in fresh.

 

[Houndi101]

Sorry if this had been answered a million times, but why are we now taking about the center of the galaxy? What happened to the center of the universe?

Doesn't exist as a concept in the game.

 

[Sylas]

He wasn't properly rushing it. He said if someone watched a video on how to min-max things and target the apparent exploit they could get through it in "20-30 hours easy". I think he took somewhere just over 30.

But I mean he did rush it in real time terms. 30 hours is 2 or 3 weeks gaming for me, lol.

Once again though, he made a point in stating there's really no actual end to the game. The centre is more of a milestone.

This is why hour-count is a pretty useless metric as people get older, really. I'm with you where 30 hours is a few weeks of gaming for me. I've been playing Monster Hunter Generations for the majority of my spare time for the last 2 weeks and I only have 20 hours put into it!

If he fitted his playing hours into a lesser amount of days than you, yet you played the same amount of hours total, that is not rushed in the sense that some people are using it. "Marathoned" is a better word for what you are saying. Like when you marathon an entire tv show in a few days.

That is not how some people are choosing to use the "rushed" inference in here.

I think there's a certain momentum you gain the longer you play a game in a single sitting. It's not like a tv series where there's a predetermined amount of time that the show will run for--you can't do much to speed that up.

When I used to sit down and marathon a game I'd get into a mindset that's vastly different from the one I'm in when I play for a few hours at a time. It was usually a mindset that made me more goal-oriented and lacking in the, "Oh my god look at this thing I found in the far corner of the map!" mentality. Maybe that's just me.

 

[More_Badass]

The streamers have explored about 60 planets max out of 18 quintillion. The crazy stuff is going to be hard to find, if they'd seen a bunch already it would be more worrying.

And both in the same galaxy.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Sorry if this had been answered a million times, but why are we now taking about the center of the galaxy? What happened to the center of the universe?

If it does exist nobody is getting there without really rare portals or something that would have you skipping tons of galaxies at a time because of this...

Nothing changed. It will take you hundreds of hours to get to the centre of the universe.

That is quite the understatement...

Now I am not good at the maths and could end up embarrassing myself here so I'm going to write this as if I where 5 lol...

It is known that there are 18 quintillion planets in the game.

Lets say that the galaxies are indeed in a straight line as you say.

Lets say there are roughly 10 billion planets per galaxy.

18 quintillion divided by 10 billion = 180,000,000

So, 180 million separate galaxies.

It took the leaker about 35 hours to get to the center of the first galaxy.

Lets say he spent about 5 hours of that upgrading and exploring and just call it an even 30 hours to get to the center. Especially since he said he was rushing through We can then use this to estimate the time it would take to rush through the rest of the galaxies.

We then have 180,000,000 galaxies to get through at 30 hours each.

So, 180,000,000 times 30 = 5,400,000,000

That's 5.4 billion hours.

There are on average 8,766 hours in a year.

So 5.4 billion divided by 8766 = 616,016 years...

My question to you would then be how many years do you have to play for things to start getting weird?

EDIT: Fixed hopefully.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I've got some nice virtual surround sound set up through a DAC with my Pulse Elites (better quality sound than the dongle). I purposely muted the few minutes of leaks I watched because I wanted to go in fresh.

Yeah, I only listened to a few snippets, but what I had heard and seen... bruh, lol.

Can you explain that set up? And should I stick with the Golds, or opt for the Elites? I heard the PS4 Headset Companion no longer works with Elites like it used to with the game specific presets? (I assume this game will surely get a specific preset.)

I have a $25 Best Buy cert to burn, and want to use it on a decent headset.

 

[runnin_blue]

Sorry if this had been answered a million times, but why are we now taking about the center of the galaxy? What happened to the center of the universe?

Apparently the game is made up of endless random galaxies, one after another. According to the original leaker there is no mention of an overarching universe in the game. The centre refers to the centre of the galaxy. Unless you are the poster Gribble (or whatever his GAF name is) who seems to be the only one who knows (read: believes) that after a gazillion galaxies there is actually the centre of the universe

That's how I understand it.

 

[mokeyjoe]

And both in the same galaxy.

Yeah, I don't really like speculating on things that aren't evidenced yet by actual gameplay, but it would seem in line with Roguelike structure of the game to make ensuing galaxies progressively harder at least, and correspondingly more extreme.

The only clue to this was the first guy not dying at all in Euclid and then getting wrecked early on in the next galaxy. But then he was trying something he hadn't done before, so who knows.

It could be that you can play the game peacefully and not worry too much about dying, but getting aggressive, pirating, killing things etc. results in more challenge.

One of those things anyway.

 

[Afrodium]

Doesn't exist as a concept in the game.

So that part of every live demo where Shawn zoomed out the map to show all the galaxies and then zoomed back in, selected a planet, and warped to it isn't something I can do in the game? I'll be in the starting galaxy the whole time?

 

[KingSnake]

Yeah, lol.

I see this attitude a lot. Lol, only 50 planets.

How many planets can one really explore to make it a decent sample out of 18 quintillion? 1000? 10000?

Even 100 000 planets are just a very small sample of that. If the game is not balanced to give a huge chance for something to appear in your game, it won't appear even if you play only this game for the rest of your life.

 

[legacyzero]

Wow.

I had no particular interest in this game other than maybe some basic curiosity. Popped into this thread just to get an idea on what people thought of the game and here I am having read the entire thing. Could not look away. What a freak show. Wasted my day, but the experience was worth it as a kind of social study.

One thing I've found of particular interest is how some people continuously ignore the fact that the original leaker explicitly stated that he intentionally did not rush to the centre, but wasted time in between as he knew he could get there within 10 hours at one point. It's been mentioned and quoted multiple times, yet they ignore it and continue to shout the "rushed rushed rushed" theme.

Baffling.

But don't mind me, please continue. It's not bedtime just yet and I have a full glass of wine.

I read this whole post and now Im wondering if this has made you interested in thr actual game now lol

 

[More_Badass]

So that part of every live demo where Shawn zoomed out the map to show all the galaxies and then zoomed back in, selected a planet, and warped to it isn't something I can do in the game? I'll be in the starting galaxy the whole time?

Pretty sure that was just for demo purposes (i.e., limited demo time, traveling takes time) You're limited by your hyperdrive in the game

Edit: the zooming out and warping to any random planet

 

[Sylas]

So that part of every live demo where Shawn zoomed out the map to show all the galaxies and then zoomed back in, selected a planet, and warped to it isn't something I can do in the game? I'll be in the starting galaxy the whole time?

We don't know. We won't know until there are more copies of the game out there. There very well could exist a hyperdrive that allows you to warp directly to other galaxies.

 

[mokeyjoe]

Sorry if this had been answered a million times, but why are we now taking about the center of the galaxy? What happened to the center of the universe?

Galaxies have a centre, but there is no apparent centre to the universe. Which is true in the real universe I suppose.

You just explore more galaxies and find different things. Differences, if any, between galaxies are an unknown at this point.

 

[mokeyjoe]

So that part of every live demo where Shawn zoomed out the map to show all the galaxies and then zoomed back in, selected a planet, and warped to it isn't something I can do in the game? I'll be in the starting galaxy the whole time?

No you can do that. It's how you pick which solar system you jump to.

But that map is only one galaxy among 180 million. So yeah, the game is big.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I see this attitude a lot. Lol, only 50 planets.

How many planets can one really explore to make it a decent sample out of 18 quintillion? 1000? 10000?

Even 100 000 planets are just a very small sample of that. If the game is not balanced to give a huge chance for something to appear in your game, it won't appear even if you play only this game for the rest of your life.

What are you seriously trying to accomplish in the No Man's Sky threads?

 

[Vincent Grayson]

So that part of every live demo where Shawn zoomed out the map to show all the galaxies and then zoomed back in, selected a planet, and warped to it isn't something I can do in the game? I'll be in the starting galaxy the whole time?

No. You move through the star map towards the center. But that center is the center of the galaxy (with the starting one being called Euclid, it seems) and whatever happens there, you can then move on to another galaxy.

We don't know if the "next" galaxy is random though, or if there's a distinct progression (like say, X number of galaxies with each being weirder or harder than the previous).

edit: people need to stop making claims about how many galaxies there are. We do not have that information. It could be 10, it could be 10,000. Hell with 18 quintillion planets, it could be 10 million galaxies and there'd still be a seemingly infinite number of star systems per galaxy. If the game *does* use some kind of intentional progression where each successive galaxy is weirder/harder than the rest, then I suspect the actual number of galaxies will be lower.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I see this attitude a lot. Lol, only 50 planets.

How many planets can one really explore to make it a decent sample out of 18 quintillion? 1000? 10000?

Even 100 000 planets are just a very small sample of that. If the game is not balanced to give a huge chance for something to appear in your game, it won't appear even if you play only this game for the rest of your life.

Thats why you are suposed to explore and look for portals. They will teleport you to these lush planets.

 

[KingSnake]

What are you seriously trying to accomplish in the No Man's Sky threads?

Discuss. You?

 

[BreezyLimbo]

And both in the same galaxy.

At this point Im wondering if the deviations start once you go deeper and deeper. None of the leakers have shown bulbous pod plants or crab like creatures, so there definitely are things that arent seen.

And yknow what? Thats exciting. Finding something thats nobody seen...

Also for people saying theyve seen to much life on planets and quote "10% will have life", 10% of 18 quintillion is like...1.8 billion. And the first galaxy probably has a bigger than average lush planets. I hope.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

I see this attitude a lot. Lol, only 50 planets.

How many planets can one really explore to make it a decent sample out of 18 quintillion? 1000? 10000?

Even 100 000 planets are just a very small sample of that. If the game is not balanced to give a huge chance for something to appear in your game, it won't appear even if you play only this game for the rest of your life.

Exactly. I don't think the point of the game is to make the exciting stuff a super rare thing that only some players will luckly be able to experience playing 50-100 hours.

If that is their intention (what I don't think it is), I'd call it a bad design choice.

 

[runnin_blue]

I read this whole post and now Im wondering if this has made you interested in thr actual game now lol

Haha. Honestly? Maybe ever so slightly, but after watching some footage I really don't think I'd get much out of it. I am curious about the game but it does seem very repetitive for my taste and I am a gamer that prefers deep story, lore etc.

Before people jump down my throat, please note the words "honestly", "seem" and "for my taste". Thank you.


EDIT: Thinking more about it, I'd certainly like to be a fly on the wall watching some of the posters in this thread play it for the first time and seeing their honest reactions.

 

[mokeyjoe]

At this point Im wondering if the deviations start once you go deeper and deeper. None of the leakers have shown bulbous pod plants or crab like creatures, so there definitely are things that arent seen.

And yknow what? Thats exciting. Finding something thats nobody seen...

That floating squid-spider thing was pretty weird I thought.

And the jumping pineapple from the first stream, lol.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Watching both of these players was possibly one of the most frustrating things I've done in a while. All they seemed to want to do is go from waypoint to waypoint, collect stuff whilst at those waypoints and level up. I saw so many other things I'd like for them to explore and neither of them were interested in that aspect of the game. How can you see a huge cave entrance and not want to investigate? How can you see a ravine and not want to walk through it? How can you just be satisfied in staying in one small area? How?

 

[More_Badass]

At this point Im wondering if the deviations start once you go deeper and deeper. None of the leakers have shown bulbous pod plants or crab like creatures, so there definitely are things that arent seen.

And yknow what? Thats exciting. Finding something thats nobody seen...

Would make sense. If you can make it through one galaxy in about 10 hours, that means Sean's estimates of a 40 to 100 hour playthrough would include 4 to 10 different galaxies.

I'm also kind of expecting a black hole to be at the center of a galaxy, and the whole "warping to a new galaxy" is just part of the gameplay loop. Especially because there's a black hole at the center of our own galaxy

 

[DeepEnigma]

Discuss. You?

 

[Vincent Grayson]

At this point Im wondering if the deviations start once you go deeper and deeper. None of the leakers have shown bulbous pod plants or crab like creatures, so there definitely are things that arent seen.

And yknow what? Thats exciting. Finding something thats nobody seen...

Also for people saying theyve seen to much life on planets and quote "10% will have life", 10% of 18 quintillion is like...1.8 billion. And the first galaxy probably has a bigger than average lush planets. I hope.

10% of 18 quintillion is 1.8 quintillion.

 

[mokeyjoe]

Would make sense. If you can make it through one galaxy in about 10 hours, that means Sean's estimates would have a playthrough include 4 to 10 different galaxies.

I'm also kind of expecting a black hole to be at the center of a galaxy, and the whole "warping to a new galaxy" is just part of the gameplay loop. Especially because there's a black hole at the center of our own galaxy

Where does the 10 hours come from? The first guy said rushing through it would be more like 20-30 hours.

 

[Klyka]

Watching both of these players was possibly one of the most frustrating things I've done in a while. All they seemed to want to do is go from waypoint to waypoint, collect stuff whilst at those waypoints and level up. I saw so many other things I'd like for them to explore and neither of them were interested in that aspect of the game. How can you see a huge cave entrance and not want to investigate? How can you see a ravine and not want to walk through it? How can you just be satisfied in staying in one small area? How?

Because those areas are what gives you progression of gear, while the areas you talk about give you something to look at.

Obviously they wanted to progress their gear and not just look at something.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

Because those areas are what gives you progression of gear, while the areas you talk about give you something to look at.

Obviously they wanted to progress their gear and not just look at something.

They also don't know the game inside and out, so they're just going based on simple things like what the tutorial in the bottom right says to do. There's almost certainly resources and other benefits they miss by jumping off these planets so quickly (especially since finding crashed probes and such let you unlock new crafting options).

 

[Justinian]

Just watched 2 minutes of a stream and the pop in is even worse than what's been shown in demos.

Literally multiple instances of terrain and trees popping into existence 2 meters away from the player.