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Nomura Interview on FINAL FANTASY Versus XIII [Development Clarification]
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Fine Ham Abounds
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madmaxx350
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idlewild_ said:
I see what you did there
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ZombieFred
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charsace said:
That's where half of their future resources are being spent, I believe, from their most recent fiscal results. A damn smart move as well.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Just rereading this... Wow. Just wow. *bangs head against wall*
Long live Level-5 and Gust!
Long live Level-5 and Gust!
H_Prestige
Banned
I already knew this game would take forever. Not upset.
What does piss me off is them not releasing the new images. Enough of this secretive BS SE. Versus XIII is not a fucking secret. We all know about it. Releasing new media keeps fans interested, and the response to this game so far has been overwhelmingly positive.
Happy to hear about the Italian inspired cities and that the day/night cycle will operate within towns too. Don't care about taking pictures.
What does piss me off is them not releasing the new images. Enough of this secretive BS SE. Versus XIII is not a fucking secret. We all know about it. Releasing new media keeps fans interested, and the response to this game so far has been overwhelmingly positive.
Happy to hear about the Italian inspired cities and that the day/night cycle will operate within towns too. Don't care about taking pictures.
madmaxx350
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H_Prestige said:
YOU ARE NOT WORTHY!!!!!
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
That would be a sad future for JRPGs.RurouniZel said:
Square Enix developed games per platform (2006-2011):
DS: 14
PSP: 9
PS2: 5 (includes both FFXII and FFXII International)
Wii: 4
360: 3 (if XIII-2 is released this year)
PS3: 2 (if XIII-2 is released this year)
PC: 2
So a platform that's been comatose if not dead for a couple of years now in the west (PSP) gets just as many games as Wii/PS3/360 put together. Equally surprising, this generation is now 5 1/2 years old and yet SE has only developed/released 3 HD titles: Last Remnant (PC/360), FF 13 (PS3/360) and FF 14 (PC only so far). What a pisspoor performance.
DS: 14
PSP: 9
PS2: 5 (includes both FFXII and FFXII International)
Wii: 4
360: 3 (if XIII-2 is released this year)
PS3: 2 (if XIII-2 is released this year)
PC: 2
So a platform that's been comatose if not dead for a couple of years now in the west (PSP) gets just as many games as Wii/PS3/360 put together. Equally surprising, this generation is now 5 1/2 years old and yet SE has only developed/released 3 HD titles: Last Remnant (PC/360), FF 13 (PS3/360) and FF 14 (PC only so far). What a pisspoor performance.
ScionOfTheRisingSun
Banned
Krev said:
Look, SE had some management issues this gen. Their Crystal Tools engine was not in any serviceable state until sometime in 2008, and when it was they had to scramble all hands, including the Versus team to make up for lost time and get XIII out of the door first. After that was over development on Versus actually got started, so about 2 years and change in actual development so far.
Putting a team that had nothing to do because they had no engine to work with to work on other projects in the meantime is a sane use of resources because it beats having them sit in front of a desk twiddling their thumbs.
I like KH as much as the next guy, but I don't get this obsession with the one with the number 3 at the end of it when there have been so many Kingdom Hearts games released since the second one anyway. Also, since Versus features similar gameplay mechanics but at the same time looks overall several orders of magnitude better as a game than any KH game ever did I like to think Versus takes the place of the next game in KH series, at least in terms of gameplay which is all I care about, they can throw the characters and plot under a bus for all I care, that is not why I play those games.
Versus is going to see release next year, I am certain of it. Wait for that and put KH3 out of your mind, with the state of things there was absolutely nothing SE could have done with the team to have had a KH3 game out on home consoles by now short of cancelling Versus and you know what I much rather prefer things as they are.
H_Prestige
Banned
I don't get the obsession with KH3 either. Are people that interested in the story and visiting the same disney "worlds" over and over again?ScionOfTheRisingSun said:
ScionOfTheRisingSun
Banned
H_Prestige said:
I certainly am not. It is gameplay all the way for me and I've always thought the level design in KH games were boxy and the platforming was terrible. So far as I care Versus is the KH formula but done right on current gen hardware.
[Nintex] said:
Hardy, har, har funny man. Want to make it a gentlemen's bet?
If Versus sees release in 2012 you must castrate yourself and mail the amputation to me by express courrier for my collection.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Yes.H_Prestige said:
H_Prestige
Banned
Well there's a bunch of handheld games for those people and more on the way.Princess Skittles said:
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Princess Skittles said:
Gamearts is already dead. It already is a sad state for the JRPG. Square is incompetent, I've never cared for tri-Ace, but in recent years have become fond of Level-5 and Gust (esp. Gust!!)
Takamura-San
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Can't wait for someone to chronicle their live from the moment Versus XIII was announced to the moment it came out.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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So we all realise that they could've remade VII in HD after all this time, right? Right?
Ahh ok good, just saying
Ahh ok good, just saying
You guys know when they announced this silly 3 game trilogy that none of it was actually in any state of development right? It was all smoke and mirrors- just a logo and plans for games. I doubt development was started back then on anything other than 13. They probably didn't even do any real work or development until 13 was pushed out the door.
OT: This is probably the same thing that happened with MGS: Rising, when it was announced, it was just a logo.
OT: This is probably the same thing that happened with MGS: Rising, when it was announced, it was just a logo.
Still in pre-production? The people working on this are probably praying that the Mayan Calendar with the world ending happens so they're not asked in Jan 2013 where this game is. SE really dropped the ball the furthest and hardest this gen. They completely and totally flubbed their two biggest franchises, FF and KH.
ScionOfTheRisingSun
Banned
[Nintex] said:
Bu but, if you win I'll send you a check for a dollah!
Meisadragon said:
Nothing wagered by me that is, for I am the only gentleman of that wager.
Really. You think for the next mainline KH they're gonna put the same worlds in? It'll be all new characters from both FF AND Disney. There's so much potential now given all the new movies and games that have came out since.H_Prestige said:
The story isn't so bad, I like the characters well enough to enjoy it.
lightless_shado
Banned
Jarmel said:
That's not the case.I'm positive they're just waiting for MS to offer enough cash, then at E3 2012 or 2013, Nomura will walk out on stage himself and announce the game for the 360, complete with videos, screen shots, and a playable demo running live on the system. The days of third party exclusives are pretty much over.
MS and Sony realize this and that's why they're investing so much money into their first party studios. The money they could be spending to buyout exclusives from third parties could be spent on funding brand new exclusive franchises from their own first party studios.
I think the thing that bothers me the most about vs is that FFXIII-2 will probably be out before it.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Probably?lightless_shado said:
The Praiseworthy
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Dec 2012 for JP \ March 2013 for NA EU........ I think (hope?)it will make it .
Sohter.Nura
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benzy said:The game still isn't even in full production?
My thoughts exactly
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
"Full Production" is an interesting term when used in conjunction with a project as data-driven as a JRPG.
Given the speed with which they are turning around XIII-2 it seems highly probable to me that every available staff member involved in CONTENT CREATION will be on that project right now in order to make its release date.
I strongly suspect that as XIII-2 comes to completion they'll simply be rolled off onto Versus with an eye to that launching around a year afterwards.
The reality is that there's absolutely no reason for them to rush Versus out the door at this point and therefore fully staffing-up both projects would make no sense. Why build two "armies" when one can get the same job done albeit over a longer time-scale?
Given the speed with which they are turning around XIII-2 it seems highly probable to me that every available staff member involved in CONTENT CREATION will be on that project right now in order to make its release date.
I strongly suspect that as XIII-2 comes to completion they'll simply be rolled off onto Versus with an eye to that launching around a year afterwards.
The reality is that there's absolutely no reason for them to rush Versus out the door at this point and therefore fully staffing-up both projects would make no sense. Why build two "armies" when one can get the same job done albeit over a longer time-scale?
Dreamer RD
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Photo mode? Gonna take few snaps of Stella's panties xD
Right. Most staff is working on 13-2 now.
Bad news anyway
Clear said:
Right. Most staff is working on 13-2 now.
Bad news anyway
StealthGoblin
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Vamphuntr said:
To be fair, the XIII team did ponce a lot of the Versus team to help get that finished.
Still, Jeez. This is a little bit ridiculous.