Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They were wrong. XB1's audience for FFXV is likely comparable to PC's hence the irony in their prior statements.
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NPD Sales Results For December 2016 (and the year's best selling games)
They were wrong. XB1's audience for FFXV is likely comparable to PC's hence the irony in their prior statements.
chromatic9
Member
Predicted 250 max.
To put this into context, Quantum Break was around ~140k. Rise of the Tomb Raider opens at 200k for 360/XBO TF2 ~180k. Sure it won't have long budget sales of the later two but 250 TLG is very good.
Theslammer
Member
250k is excellent for The Last Guardian. It's not as if that game is Call of Duty, and the budget for it is not at AAA levels.
That's more than ICO did its entire lifetime.
250k is what I'd expect for in between. Shadow of the Colossus made it higher on the charts number-wise but sales-wise, it sold less than The Last Guardian.
Shows how much these games are selling that SOTC wasn't on the Top 10 despite 250k sold.
Ravage_Hydra
Member
Do you have a source for those numbers?
AHA-Lambda
Member
That DR4 number is almost certainly worse in context for DR than the TLG number is for it.
I wouldn't call that a great success for TLG either though even with it being a lower budget niche title.
olimpia84
Member
Considering how long the game was in development and the platform change I'm sure Sony ended up deep in the red with this title which is a true shame.
How so? DR4 is in line with how the franchise has generally performed. It beat DR3, just about the same as one and ~60k behind DR2 which included a PS3 release. TLG is the best debut for a Ueda game. I don't think anyone was expecting 500k for either one of these games.
Oh they kept their crown but at a very steep price. COD finally had to resort to UBI like tactics to move stock. Something that they have never done before.
Jawmuncher
Member
Ok just saw the 315K for DR4. Not terrible but doesn't look like it'll reach the expectations capcom set for it.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
What are budgets for both games?
I know, I mean I didn't even remember that game was coming out until there was thread here on GAF at launch. Like did they market it at all? It was very very "stealth" release, no hype from MS.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
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GhostTrick
Banned
That is, with your own numbers in the "what if European Xbox market is as big as USA" case, which it isn't. And that is, without any numbers backing up your PC claim.
onemanasylum
Banned
250k is excellent for TLG, and the type of game it is. 1 million LT is doable I think.
That's not really how things work though. Would a 5 years late port of MGS4 with no enhancements have sold much better than 660k on the 360? Look at the performance of 1 year late ports on the PS3 compared to their 360 originals. Missing launch means missing the hype that drives sales. Final Fantasy XIII also had a reputation of being one of the worst mainline games in the series for several years prior to that release.
MGS5 is a bit over 1.2M in Steam currently, after a full price concurrent launch. Both Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Rising were well under that 660k that FF13 is sitting at before MGS5 launched.
With a 450k start in the US on XB1 (plus digital), and with FF15 performing better in the US than the UK and a few other regions (compared to FF13), it's unlikely that the XB1 version is much past 1M WW. If FF15 had a similar launch as MGS5 on PC, it would have at least been comparable to the XB1 version in units, only with a nearly 100% digital share.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Why aren't you including digital?
No blizzard.net or battle net numbers
ethomaz
Banned
To be fair the all rankings are not useful because it is about revenue and not units.
Listen to this man.
Yep, Xbox is non-existent in Japan. And in some Euro countries like Spain or Germany the PS4/XONE ratio is huge
Nobody is stopping Nintendo from trying to charge $60 for Pokemon if that was important to them lol.
You'll get your wish granted on Switch I guess
DriftingSpirit
Member
250K is good for TLG. I had doubts that it would do much at all.
FFXV split is better than I thought it would be. X1 pulling a bit of weight, all things considered.
FFXV split is better than I thought it would be. X1 pulling a bit of weight, all things considered.
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Well the 2 million was for shipped and it's coming out on steam before the end of the fiscal year. So it's not impossible. Dr4 opened higher than DR3 and DR3 was over a million( I wanna say it was 1.2 million) by the end of the fiscal year and that wasn't including PC
No Battle.net sales are included.
CosmicQueso
Member
If they're not different games why are they sold separately and with different UPC codes on the box?
Daffy Duck
Member
Well they did bundle in MWR, so that probably boosted sales no end of Infinite Warfare.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Very pleased to see Trico in the Top 10 for PS4. I was getting worried that #colinwasright, but when you put it in perspective like that, I think Sony and Ueda should be pleased with those results.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
I'm surprised final fantasy sold that well.
The PS4/XBO split for FFXV wasn't as bad I thought. Square Enix must be pretty pleased.
There was never any doubt that COD:IW was going to be on top in the NPD. The series may be decline but it has a long, long way to drop before 2nd place.
There was never any doubt that COD:IW was going to be on top in the NPD. The series may be decline but it has a long, long way to drop before 2nd place.
Daffy Duck
Member
In terms of CoD sales it was.
Interfectum
Member
Do you work for Polygon? Seems like a comparison they'd make.
onemanasylum
Banned
Considering how popular PC is in europe, and Xbox is not, this is very doubtful.
hanspampel
Banned
Spain yes. Germany, not
Ratios:
JP >50:1
ES ~9:1 (oldest number and not sure if still accurate, could've changed a lot)
DE 4.5:1
Bits N Pieces
Member
Are the numbers for FF on Xbox above what most people were expecting then?
onemanasylum
Banned
The ratio in germany is still very high, something like 5:1.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
No, you've come to the right place, you belong here.
Yes, FFXV being #3 on Xbox One in december is pretty crazy.
Interfectum
Member
Compared to other games in that 'series' I think so.
Duxxy3
Member
The Last One
Member
What you mean?
hanspampel
Banned
DE is germany and that ratio is 4.5:1 for ltd console sales.
The number is from end of July 2016
before xbox one s,ps4 slim and ps4 pro release
NPD charts for almost every third party now include digital numbers.
When NPD says FF XV has the best launch in the series they are counting digital versions.
Yes, it could be 12:1 by now. lol
onemanasylum
Banned
4:5 :1 is a huge ratio.