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NPD September 2011 Sales Results [Update 3: FIFA 12, Madden 12, Dead Island]
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FrenchMovieTheme
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glad to see madden doing well. although they skimped out on some of the online franchise stuff they OWE us, i think they put out a pretty good game on the field. last year we got through 2 seasons of online franchise, and even in that instance it wasn't near a full league because of all the disconnect issues causing people to quit.
this year, in part thanks to myleaguemanager.net allowing us to run as close to a real online franchise as ever, we are running 32 strong and looks to be headed to matching madden '10 in the amount of seasons we play. so kudos to ea.
as for the other games, the dude above me is right. resistance 2 was fucking horrible. i didn't even bother looking at R3 because of this but i'll probably pick it up at the toys r us buy 2 get 1 sale because i heard they fixed a lot of the garbage that was R2.
this year, in part thanks to myleaguemanager.net allowing us to run as close to a real online franchise as ever, we are running 32 strong and looks to be headed to matching madden '10 in the amount of seasons we play. so kudos to ea.
as for the other games, the dude above me is right. resistance 2 was fucking horrible. i didn't even bother looking at R3 because of this but i'll probably pick it up at the toys r us buy 2 get 1 sale because i heard they fixed a lot of the garbage that was R2.
Angry Fork
Member
How could you possible know this though? Most of gaf hated it, but that means nothing towards the general population. Most of the public thinks Modern Warfare/COD is a hardcore series simply because older guys in their late 20s/30s play it and it's on the super duper hardcore xbox live and so on. They have no clue about games like Demons Souls or Catherine or Last Guardian and so on. That makes their opinion meaningless to me and proves nothing of whether R2 was a good game or not.Kusagari said:
I honestly think the people who bought R2 were also hardcore people and very little were of the 'general public'. Resistance 1 is the only one of the franchise I would say more casual fans played because it was one of the first exclusive shooter offerings on PS3. But in 2007 COD4 came out, 2008 WaW was coming out, Gears 2 etc. all of these casual 'dudebro' kind of people scattered and went to different more popular options. Resistance 2 was left in the dust at that point except for hardcore fans or PS3 only owners that weren't interested in COD.
I think if there were casual fans who bought and played R2, they were in the very small minority and therefore couldn't put a dent on R3's sales even if none of them bought R3. I think Resistance is inherently only known to/cared about by the hardcore and therefore people would know (based on reading forum posts, E3 videos etc.) that R3 was going to make a lot of changes, Insomniac put out round table discussions talking about it and so on. In fact even if we go under the assumption that many casual players bought R2, why would they hate it? The single player was similar to Call of Duty, the multi player was much more expansive and interesting compared to 16 player-esque duels, there was 8 player co-op etc. I mean if I were a casual who was used to Call of Duty and experienced Resistance 2 I'd imagine I'd think it was a pretty good game if not better than COD. I certainly don't think they would have reason to bad mouth the game.
If people want to say R3 failed (I don't know if it did, I don't know how much it would need to sell to consider that, maybe jstevenson could shed light on that I'm not sure) I would say the reason it did is because of what I said before. Casuals are attracted to COD/battlefield, everyone else has shooter fatigue, Resistance doesn't set itself apart enough the way Bioshock does, and the 16 player COD multi player is something hardcore fans aren't necessarily interested in at this point in time.
jim-jam bongs
Member
I know that this thread is now about making excuses for you favourite console's last major exclusive, but Dead Island doing well makes me happy.
Always-honest
Banned
I bought gears3 and deux ex. Now is still want to buy resistance3, but there are so many great games now.....
Kasumi1970
my name is Ted
he 100% right on this...no one like Resistance 2LuchaShaq said:
Speedymanic
Banned
MS need to lock down the Gears franchise, it's pushing some pretty crazy numbers.
Shame about Resistance, I liked the first game but never got round to playing the sequel (I heard it was pretty average) but the third looked pretty good, so it's disappointing to see it fail.
End of the franchise or will Insomniac continue?
Shame about Resistance, I liked the first game but never got round to playing the sequel (I heard it was pretty average) but the third looked pretty good, so it's disappointing to see it fail.
End of the franchise or will Insomniac continue?
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Speedymanic said:
R2 is to blame. i bought R2 day 1 and it sucked so bad i pretty much hadn't watched any media or even payed attention to R3. i know i'm not alone in that!
Time to put Resistance down. Next victim is Ratchet and Clank. =/ The demo was not that good, it comes out on Tuesday and its just going to get swallowed up. I haven't seen one commercial for it or print ad either. =/
Shame. I love Ratchet too. =(
Insomniac has a long, long uphill climb as a 3rd party from here on out.
Shame. I love Ratchet too. =(
Insomniac has a long, long uphill climb as a 3rd party from here on out.
People are surprised that the third entry in an utterly mediocre franchise operating in a crowded genre didn't sell well? If not for the fact that Resistance is an exclusive (and a system launch one at that) from a semi-famous developer, it would have received far far less attention than it did.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
walking fiend said:
Right, and personally my online community isn't on PS3 so I passed on it. I was going to rent R3 at first to see if I liked it but the idea that I couldn't try out the online due to the Sony online Pass thing just killed off that idea and I moved on to other games.
Syphon Filter said:
I didn't buy Gears 3 because of Gears 2.
Kintaro said:
I think the teaser for OverStrike looked pretty damn cool and I'm excited to play it online with my friends. It's nice to see them with a new IP instead of being forced into sequels all gen.
Kusagari said:
The only people that hate resistance 2 are the same group of message board trolls that will say the best selling game (Cod last year) and two of the last 3 most picked GOTYs (GTA4/Mass Effect 2) are garbage as well. I couldn't think of a more irrelevant audience even if that includes me in some cases.
Also the complaints against R2 compared to R1/R3 are strictly single player.
Best example of this is Vinny Caravella's review. This is a guy who usually never even touches multiplayer. http://www.giantbomb.com/resistance-2/61-20699/reviews/
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resistance-2
87
It's still the best and most unique exclusive multiplayer game for the system, it was the type of game that had an actual community that helped grow sales/stave off used/rentals.
Gears of War 2's online is the reason I did not and will not buy Gears of War 3 despite everybody on my friends list playing it. After the glitch fest that was Gears of War 1, Gears of War 2's online was inexcusable. Coupled with the ten minute long match-making wait, laggy in-game matches, and the inability to leave a fucking match solidified things.Syphon Filter said:
And people did not "hate" Gears of War 2. The campaign was fucking amazing. If anything, it was the online, and even then, it was everything else besides the gameplay that sucked.
EDIT: To clarify my last statement, I meant to say that I feel people hated how the online component was handled. The campaign, feature set, horde mode, and multiplayer game play were all spectacular. As I said before, it was just how everything else was handled. It really felt Epic was just pissing on us going "HA! IT WILL SELL NO MATTER WHAT!"
I agree with this, but Resistance 3 has been getting some really positive reception. I thought it would translate to great sales. So I'll admit it: I am surprised by Resistance 3's lackluster sales.ElyrionX said:
I feel like if Resistance 3 sold amazingly well everybody would be like "Oh yeah, generic FPS versus aliens sells well. Big surprise." It's like, they can never win, ya know?
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I can't imagine how bad Resistance 2 is if the first is supposed to be the better game.
So with news that Sony UK is spending £5 million (that's like a billion US $) advertising UC3, seems pretty clear that the push in NA will also be really big. So with that said I reckon 600k first month as an absolute minimum, the only question was how much Sony would push the game and the answer is a lot. It being the only big game they had during the end of this year probably allowed them to do that.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Kintaro said:
I'm sure it is very welcome to them to be working on something new and fresh. Resistance 1 was announced at E305 so that's been over 6 years of working on the same franchise and that is just from the announcement.
I'm sure the new game will benifet from all the fresh new ideas they want to put into them and also they aren't going to be restricted by only one machine.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
It was a bland boring and forgetable shooter-by-the-numbers with a story so silly I lost brain cells following. When I'm actually happy to reach a vehicle section in an FPS that's usually a very bad sign.Kenak said:
And Resistance 2 is worse?
Syphon Filter
Member
Uncharted 3 should do over 1 million easily. Uncharted 2 sold 537K on oct and now uncharted 3 has about 1 extra week in comparison, November boost with black friday sales,2 years worth of extra installed base and the franchise is proven and big overall not more than ever. If god of war can do it so can uncharted since uncharted is bigger than god of war.KingDizzi said:
Syphon Filter
Member
R1 was a decent game but they didn't take the right path with the future installments.Jive Turkey said:
rapid32.5
Member
Reasons I didn't get R3 but played R1 a ton back in the day:
-R2 left bad after-taste, no R3 demo to feel otherwise.
-No Horde kinda mode to get more hours out of the game.
-COD on the block now, MW3 multi I'm gonna invest time in, no time for both.
- Tons of FPS competition, got Crysis for $20, if I want R3 for single player only $60 is too much.
-R2 left bad after-taste, no R3 demo to feel otherwise.
-No Horde kinda mode to get more hours out of the game.
-COD on the block now, MW3 multi I'm gonna invest time in, no time for both.
- Tons of FPS competition, got Crysis for $20, if I want R3 for single player only $60 is too much.
OldJadedGamer said:
They could have went 3rd party any time they wanted to, so any blame to be placed is on them.
The uphill climb is simple. New IP this late into the generation is a tough sell. They have no fanbase on the 360. They also lose any spotlight put on them from being a one system developer.
They could do it, but it just going to be tough.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Kintaro said:
It was late in the gen, I'll have to agree but it was the only way to own their own IP. That was never going to happen having Sony publish their games. Better late than never though.
Syphon Filter said:
God of War 3 wasn't sandwiched between the two biggest games of the year. Both which appeal at least somewhat to Uncharted's main base. Not real evidence obviously, but the few casuals I know with PS3's were going to buy UC3 day one. Then they realized it comes out between BF3 and MW3 and said fuck that.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
There's a fine line between optimistic and delusional.Kenak said:Maybe the vehicle sections were just that good?
Speedymanic
Banned
KingDizzi said:
Sounds like a lot of money, but I can see that being peanuts when EA, Acti and Bethesda are also actively seeking ads in prime time, on buses, billboards, etc.
And then there's MS with Halo: CEA. It's going to be a tough battle for UC3, I can see it faltering in comparison to other titles. (which would be criminal, but there's not much they can do about it.)
Syphon Filter
Member
BF3 big? lol not at all. Also uncharted is a big franchise to considering it's only on one console. It's nearly on gears level. God of war was near FF 13 launch. And wasn't bad company there too?Kusagari said:
Speedymanic
Banned
Syphon Filter said:
Seems to have a pretty big following based on pre-order numbers. Higher than I thought it would have considering it's coming in the same year as a numbered CoD title.
Come on son, UC isn't anywhere close to being as big as Gears.
Syphon Filter
Member
I saw many cancel their orders because of the beta for consoles. Also pre-orders aren't guaranteed,they can be canceled at any time.Speedymanic said:
Speedymanic
Banned
Syphon Filter said:
I didn't play the beta, was it really that bad?
I know, it's a rough indicator, but it's still pretty damn impressive that they managed to get so many considering the level of competition that's due.
Kusagari said:
I wondering what effect it will have on those kids who don't have the luxury of disposable income. I'm sure their parents will be buying them full priced games three weeks in a row.
I would imagine they been told to pick one now and maybe one for christmas or they'll get BF3 now and exchange it towards MW3.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Ouch at R3's numbers. That's gotta sting.
I wonder how they're going to handle it with future publisher partners, they went the multiplatform route but if EA or Activision thinks it isn't worth the risk they'll drop them like a rock but maybe they blame these sales on the fact that the game was only released on one platform.TacticalFox88 said: