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Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 Review Thread

I got an MSI Armor OC the other day but the PCB is too tall for the rear locking mechanism in my case, so I sent it back.

The Gigabyte Windforce and G1 both look to have normal height PCBs - can anyone confirm?
 
dr_rus said:
Check what active 3D processes you have running when you have the issue. You can do with either within the driver (look in the top menu of the CPL for "show 3D processes" or something) or AB (click on the "i" in the main window and scroll down a bit). Try killing them and check if the card downclocks normally after that.

One 144Hz display shouldn't cause this. It's also nearly impossible that a properly setup AB would cause this.
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I've figured out what's causing it. Well, three things. Eventually, Calculator, Movies & TV, and Settings will appear in my background processes in Task Manager. Not sure why, as I have them set in Privacy/Background apps to not run in the background. As soon as I end all three tasks, my card downclocks.

So now I have to figure out WHY these apps start running in the background in the first place.

Edit: Disabling the Superfetch service in Windows prevents those apps from starting, but I don't know yet if it's a bad idea to disable that service or not.
 
Iced said:
I've figured out what's causing it. Well, three things. Eventually, Calculator, Movies & TV, and Settings will appear in my background processes in Task Manager. Not sure why, as I have them set in Privacy/Background apps to not run in the background. As soon as I end all three tasks, my card downclocks.

So now I have to figure out WHY these apps start running in the background in the first place.

Edit: Disabling the Superfetch service in Windows prevents those apps from starting, but I don't know yet if it's a bad idea to disable that service or not.
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They shouldn't affect the card's clock in any case. Do you have the card on Optimal or Adaptive power setting btw?
 
dr_rus said:
They shouldn't affect the card's clock in any case. Do you have the card on Optimal or Adaptive power setting btw?
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I have it set to maximum performance. I booted earlier today using both optimal and adaptive, and the problem persisted.

I created a thread on Nvidia's forums to see if anyone else is having this issue, or knows of a solution that doesn't involve disabling SuperFetch.

Edit: Yikes. Turns out it was the maximum performance setting that was doing it. I could have swore I messed with those settings and found nothing worked.
 
Iced said:
I have it set to maximum performance. I booted earlier today using both optimal and adaptive, and the problem persisted.

I created a thread on Nvidia's forums to see if anyone else is having this issue, or knows of a solution that doesn't involve disabling SuperFetch.

Edit: Yikes. Turns out it was the maximum performance setting that was doing it. I could have swore I messed with those settings and found nothing worked.
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This is the usual error I've seen many times already. Some people seem to blindly recommend setting the card to maximum performance mode on forums and in guides which usually mean that the card won't downclock, ever. In fact, you should only use maximum performance mode for those titles which work better with it - in my experience it's mostly OpenGL titles (id's games) and some DX titles running in borderless window only. For these titles you may try setting maximum performance in the corresponding app profile. The global power mode is best to be leaved at default optimal setting however.
 
dr_rus said:
This is the usual error I've seen many times already. Some people seem to blindly recommend setting the card to maximum performance mode on forums and in guides which usually mean that the card won't downclock, ever. In fact, you should only use maximum performance mode for those titles which work better with it - in my experience it's mostly OpenGL titles (id's games) and some DX titles running in borderless window only. For these titles you may try setting maximum performance in the corresponding app profile. The global power mode is best to be leaved at default optimal setting however.
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Thanks for the reply. My insistence on using that power setting came from reading this a couple years ago. It would appear the author has since changed it to advise using optimal.

I just have a tough time with settings like these, because I don't necessarily know what they do on a per-application basis and I prefer, well, maximum performance out of all my games. That said, I'm able to manually change the Calculator and Movies & TV apps to adaptive in NCP but not Settings, so I guess I'll just have to make the change because I cannot have this card running at full clock 24/7.

Thanks for the tips on OpenGL/windowed games. I always play games in exclusive fullscreen if the option is available, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'll just set Doom to run at max performance though. Have you personally run into any games where you needed to change the setting to max to avoid issues (other than scenarios you specified)?
 
I got a GTX 1070 several weeks ago, a Zotac Founders Edition for $434. It's really nice, driving games pretty well on my 1080p/144hz monitor. Also, FFX/X-2 Remaster PC looks awesome with 4k DSR.

If you have that title on PC, play it that way and see a real graphics improvement. It should improve it for emulation also, if you enable the assets at a higher quality level. (I don't do that for most games though because for many of them I'm trying to get close to 120fps in a hacked lightboost blur-reduction mode at 120Hz. With FFX/X-2 though, it certainly has a framerate cap anyway so I might as well do that...)
 
So i'm in the market for a GTS 1070. I'll probably run it on my old ASROCK X58 EXTREME

anything I should be considering ? I've been looking around but I haven't bought a graphics card since 2010 though, so I'm not sure which venders are better. I want a decently silent card but preferably a good one as well.

I've looked at the MSI Gaming X and the MSI ARMOR. What's the difference here ? And with the MSI GAMING X, can I even run it on my mobo ? (since it seems to require 2 pci express slots) - here's a pic of my mobo
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I believe it should be fine, the 2 x PCIE means that the card will plug into one but span two slots in terms of size.

The Gaming X will have a better spec set of fans on it, so better noise and cooling.

MSI are excellent. I've got EVGA and can recommend that. I just put a Gigabyte 1060 into my dad's box and that is fine too. Pick one of those.
 
Widge said:
I believe it should be fine, the 2 x PCIE means that the card will plug into one but span two slots in terms of size.

The Gaming X will have a better spec set of fans on it, so better noise and cooling.

MSI are excellent. I've got EVGA and can recommend that. I just put a Gigabyte 1060 into my dad's box and that is fine too. Pick one of those.
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Theres a chance it was referring to power from the power supply, but it was written as pcie 6 pin and pcie 8 pin which is why i assumed it was from the mobo.

Sounds good regardng the recommendations. The price seems to wildly differ and with the price range where it is, it would be a shame to get a crappy edition of the card.
 
I don't think the Armour would be crappy, it just doesn't have the latest in the Twin Frozr series of fans.

I've noted that there are a lot of varying editions that all seem the same on the surface. Some are usually pre-overclocked and sometimes can contain better heatsink solutions, but I think the gains in performance, volume and cooling are going to be minimal. It's like there are about 4 flavours of the EVGA cards!

From what I've seen, Palit and Gainward are cheap and cheerful, and not necessarily good. Lots of people get Zotac but I have seen complaints about some of the fans behaviour over on overclockers.co.uk. MSI, EVGA and Gigabyte, I really have seen little to suggest any bad feeling. ASUS, I have though, with many saying that ASUS are great for motherboards, bad for graphics cards.

And then there are the reference designs, which we can all put in the bin.

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You're right about power though, I can see from the picture of it that it wants both an 8 pin and a 6 pin going into it. For what its worth, my EVGA SC only wants the one 8 pin and came with a nice 6 to 8 converter in the box.
 
Widge said:
I don't think the Armour would be crappy, it just doesn't have the latest in the Twin Frozr series of fans.

I've noted that there are a lot of varying editions that all seem the same on the surface. Some are usually pre-overclocked and sometimes can contain better heatsink solutions, but I think the gains in performance, volume and cooling are going to be minimal. It's like there are about 4 flavours of the EVGA cards!

From what I've seen, Palit and Gainward are cheap and cheerful, and not necessarily good. Lots of people get Zotac but I have seen complaints about some of the fans behaviour over on overclockers.co.uk. MSI, EVGA and Gigabyte, I really have seen little to suggest any bad feeling. ASUS, I have though, with many saying that ASUS are great for motherboards, bad for graphics cards.

And then there are the reference designs, which we can all put in the bin.

EDIT:

You're right about power though, I can see from the picture of it that it wants both an 8 pin and a 6 pin going into it. For what its worth, my EVGA SC only wants the one 8 pin and came with a nice 6 to 8 converter in the box.
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Ah. Sounds good.. Yeah, it's just difficult to know. My old card makes a super loud noise when I turn on the machine, and while it does chug along, I don't think it's doing too well.
Regarding the power I hope every card comes with a converter. I'm not sure what came in the box for my power supply, but my old 5870 uses 2x6 pin connectors. Either way, should be a good upgrade :P

It's too bad that AMD isn't very competitive right now. I'm sure the market would be better off with two equal competitors like in the old days.
 
My dads 1060 gigabyte didn't have an adapter but it's literally £2 on your order, so stick it on to be safe.

My journey with cards was a baptism of fire. I got a cheap 4850 that had no fan control. On or off. Awful. The 4890 I traded it for was a noise monster! From that point onwards, I always checked in on sound stats. It does seem that everything is pretty reasonable nowadays in terms of noise, so well done card manufacturers!
 
Archpath1 said:
Any consensus on which brand of gtx 1070s are reliable or having better success with?

Been looking around but cant decide.
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I got the Gigabyte g1 gaming with the wf3 Cooler on a deal and it runs like a Dream. Granted i still haven't Oced it much more due to lack of time but it is silent and fresh @ +100 on the core and +400 on mems
 
Widge said:
My dads 1060 gigabyte didn't have an adapter but it's literally £2 on your order, so stick it on to be safe.

My journey with cards was a baptism of fire. I got a cheap 4850 that had no fan control. On or off. Awful. The 4890 I traded it for was a noise monster! From that point onwards, I always checked in on sound stats. It does seem that everything is pretty reasonable nowadays in terms of noise, so well done card manufacturers!
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Wow. That's super unfortunate. and yeah, my desktop right now is super loud. I really hope it's going to be silent(ish) when I replace stuff (also going to replace my i7 930 with a old xeon, along with installing a new cooler for the cpu and some more ram).
Anyhow, good idea about adding the wire just in case (if the product page doesn't show it anyhow). Thanks for the assist. Feel a little more comfortable in which way to go now.. Even if there are a ton of different ones from the same brands regardless. There really should just be one msi, one asus etc etc.
 
Iced said:
Noticed my new EVGA 1070 FTW wasn't downclocking at idle. A hint from the Geforce forums (specifically about today's new driver) lead me to discover that MSI Afterburner was conflicting with the card and preventing it from idling.

I installed EVGA Precision and it seems to have fixed the problem. Anything I should know about this program, other than that it's ridiculous I needed to provide name, email and serial number to use it? Can I expect similar performance to Afterburner?


Edit: Okay, nevermind then! Getting same results with Precision. Something in my system is causing the gpu to stop downclocking about 5 minutes into a fresh boot. The gpu is downclocked until that point.

Edit 2: Uninstalled Precision just to check, and same result. Anyone know what could be forcing the GPU to not idle? Is it because I'm on a 144hz monitor?
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Mine won't downclock either. Not sure wtf is up


edit: I'm using max performance too, but changing it does nothing. Do I need to reboot?
 
kinggroin said:
Mine won't downclock either. Not sure wtf is up


edit: I'm using max performance too, but changing it does nothing. Do I need to reboot?
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On the latest drivers, the card downclocks but only when on optimal or adaptive. Windows background apps still stop it from clocking down at idle when using max performance.
 
Finally bought the Palit Super Jetstream yesterday. Near silent card. Just disappointed that I got Micron Memory which in my case doesn't overclock as well as other GTX 1070 in reviews. Only achieved +250 there. GPU clock goes up to 2088 MHz tho. Seems ok.
 
Just joined the 1070 club today. My 660ti Power Edition was still doing a great job of 1080p gaming, but I felt I had to feed the 1440p monitor I bought (for photographic purposes) recently.

The 1070 is somewhat overkill for the kind of games I play, but I'm very happy with the card so far. I bought the MSI Armor OC version.

I built the PC in 2012 and it has served me well, the i5 3570K and 16GB still doing me proud. The 1070 adds some life to the machine.

Part of my motivation to upgrade was to play the PC version of Forza Horizon 3 as well as the Xbox version. I hope the game runs better than Forza Apex - because I get plenty of stutters with that even when running at 60fps.

Witcher 3 running at 1440p60 really is a wonder to behold. :)
 
Kiru said:
Finally bought the Palit Super Jetstream yesterday. Near silent card. Just disappointed that I got Micron Memory which in my case doesn't overclock as well as other GTX 1070 in reviews. Only achieved +250 there. GPU clock goes up to 2088 MHz tho. Seems ok.
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My Gainward GLH has Samsung memory, but I'm not interested in OC yet, since pretty much every game runs at 120+ fps @1080p with minor tweaks.

I want to check how much is possible though.
 
psn said:
My Gainward GLH has Samsung memory, but I'm not interested in OC yet, since pretty much every game runs at 120+ fps @1080p with minor tweaks.

I want to check how much is possible though.
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It's luck of the draw, even Micron memory can get high overclocks. But in general with Samsung you should be able to get +400-500 Mhz overclock. Some people can get +600-800 range, but you have to check if it is game stable, ie, I can benchmark my Samsung memory at +600 without artifacts but games like Witcher 3 and Deus Ex Mankind Divided have artifacts at that overclock. I had to lower it to the +500-550 range to eliminate artifacts (550 on Witcher 3 and 500 for Deus Ex).

In general Micron chips can also achieve +400-500, but it does seem like the majority of users stuck with low overclocks such as +200-250 range are 1070 owners with Micron memory. I wonder if anyone has done an in-depth survey to determine what kind of overclocks you can expect based on memory type?
 
Decided to get a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming. Reviews seemed pretty solid all around. Anyone else have this card?
 
CcrooK said:
Decided to get a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming. Reviews seemed pretty solid all around. Anyone else have this card?
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Has an annoying noise when the fans are off and there's a chance it uses Micron memory. Not that great of a card to be honest.
 
Got my Zotac GTX 1070 AMP! Extreme edition yesterday. Put it in my 6.5 year old system, and overclocked it to +135MHz core and +520MHz memory (on top of this card's existing oc) and loving it. Now I'm trying to push my i7 920 d0 from 3.8 stable to 4GHz stable... Maybe 4.2 if I can, lol.
 
blainethemono said:
Recently installed a MSI 1070 Gaming X and I seem to be experiencing the same thing described in this thread:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=409087



I've been able to get my memory up to +500 while Valley or Witcher 3 are running and not see any artifacts or anything. The problem is that if I try to set it above about +280 on the memory immediately after a cold boot, I get a gnarly checkerboard pattern + hard freeze and either a reboot or a BSOD (video_scheduler_internal_error usually, sometimes dpc watchdog)

This led to a situation where the settings kept being applied at boot, causing one of those two things to happen seconds after seeing the desktop, which required me to boot into safe mode and edit the afterburner .cfg in order to be able to do anything

This is the first time i've ever actually put any effort into overclocking a video card so I could use some advice here. Should I RMA the card or is this maybe a issue with windows or afterburner or something? I haven't tried anything other than afterburner (latest version, 4.3.0 beta 4)
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Noticed I have the same problem with my Micron VRAM... and I found this thread in the Nvidia forums with people having the same problem: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...os-bug-in-micron-memory-1070-cards-/?offset=4 We're not alone on this. :(
Seems Palit, MSI and who else didn't adjust the BIOS for the stupid Micron VRAM. If they don't supply some kind of new BIOS we're out of luck. +100 on VRAM is all I can do for now... :/
 
Crikey didn't realise so many overclocked their GPUs. Is this for gaming performance or just the fun of it?

I'm totally happy* with the performance of my new MSI 1070 as is,




*Amazed even.
 
JackAubrey said:
Crikey didn't realise so many overclocked their GPUs. Is this for gaming performance or just the fun of it?
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Definitely gaming performance. A few extra frames per second is always good.

Recently purchased a MSI Gaming 1070 (Non X or Z). Has Micron Memory.

Hopefully just a bios update is required for this Micron mess.
 
JackAubrey said:
Crikey didn't realise so many overclocked their GPUs. Is this for gaming performance or just the fun of it?

I'm totally happy* with the performance of my new MSI 1070 as is,




*Amazed even.
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It's because it's so easy and so safe to do. Why leave that extra performance on the table?
 
CcrooK said:
Decided to get a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming. Reviews seemed pretty solid all around. Anyone else have this card?
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I do. I noticed its a bit louder than my old G1 970 which I barely heard, but when I play a game with the sound on, I don't really notice. It also didn't overclock much but thats fine.

Otherwise its a pretty solid card.

Hazaro said:
Yeah overclock your 1070 the 5% it lets you. woo

Just buy the cheapest one, waste of money imo.
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yes... agree with this.
 
Any good safe guide for that 5% overclock? Most guides I check seem to aim for the "impossible", I'd rather just have safe stable smaller overclock.
 
Kudo said:
Any good safe guide for that 5% overclock? Most guides I check seem to aim for the "impossible", I'd rather just have safe stable smaller overclock.
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I have a MSI Gaming X with Micron memory. In Afterburner, without raising the Power Target, on my first try I could put the core speed at +145 and memory at +200. Core ran up to 2050 mhz and it was absolutely stable. I'm sure more was possible without raising power target. Put it back to stock because I play at 1080p and don't need the extra speed :)
 
Got my Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming today.

No coil whine.
Samsung GDDR5 ram.


So far so good. This is just from getting drivers installed and everything running. Games I'll get to later of course. :D
 
Iced said:
Absolutely! I have my core clock set to 1725 and my memory at 2202. I could likely push it even further but I'm happy with the results. Samsung memory, by the way.
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I don't know exactly that was wrong with the Micron memory (early?) MSI Gaming X card use(d), because mine has Micron memory and the card runs 100% stable at 2050 mhz core and +250 mhz on the memory, I haven't tried overclocking further yet, I basically did it only out of curiosity, I don't really overclock the GPU at all, because the card is fast enough for everything I do. Today I played Doom, at 1080p with all settings on ultra, and the framerate was between 130 and 170 fps all the time, without manually overclocking the card. Good enough for me :)

Edit: No coil whine either on my card.
 
I caved and got a 1070 FTW this week.

It runs everything so well...except for Deus Ex Mankind Divided, which still requires me to turn some settings down. Seems like that is a resource hog compared to just about any other game I try on it. 1440p for what it's worth.

I have no idea what coil whine sounds like so I dunno if mine has it or not. :P
 
Iced said:
Absolutely! I have my core clock set to 1725 and my memory at 2202. I could likely push it even further but I'm happy with the results. Samsung memory, by the way.
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I just remembered to check the memory and it looks like I have Samsung as well. Are you using Afterburner or the Precision software for OC?
 
Patrick S. said:
I don't know exactly that was wrong with the Micron memory (early?) MSI Gaming X card use(d), because mine has Micron memory and the card runs 100% stable at 2050 mhz core and +250 mhz on the memory, I haven't tried overclocking further yet, I basically did it only out of curiosity, I don't really overclock the GPU at all, because the card is fast enough for everything I do. Today I played Doom, at 1080p with all settings on ultra, and the framerate was between 130 and 170 fps all the time, without manually overclocking the card. Good enough for me :)

Edit: No coil whine either on my card.
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Don't worry about the Micron memory stuff, it was a really small number of cards effected, I have Micron memory on my Gigabyte G1 1070 and it's completely stable with a decent OC too.
 
_woLf said:
I caved and got a 1070 FTW this week.

It runs everything so well...except for Deus Ex Mankind Divided, which still requires me to turn some settings down. Seems like that is a resource hog compared to just about any other game I try on it. 1440p for what it's worth.

I have no idea what coil whine sounds like so I dunno if mine has it or not. :P
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If it had it you'd notice it, it's like a very fine metallic sounding "whine."
 
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