nVidia GeForce GTX 11-series projected to launch in July.

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Bang for buck is tilted in AMD's favor in GPU market for most time of the history, so, let's not make circles around "but drivers", "but i kinda sorta feel it doesn't kinda sorta smoothly work, unles intelvidia" etc.
Yeah, feelings.
Yeah, brand loyality.
Yeah, half empty and half full.
No, most consumers are not making rational decisions.
And yet somehow whenever I buy GPU it's always Nvidia who is cheaper and or better in our market.
 
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It's on the consumer to see through the BS, when one of the two main competitors has been caught strong arming parnters and even reviewers.
"Sync is a god like upgrade" - yeah, sure thing.


Also because Intel's grip on reviewers is nowhere at nvidia's levels. The linguistic gymnastic cited in post #192, to somehow sweeten the fact that 11xx series will be, let me check AMD reviews to use the right terminology: a power hog.


Bang for buck is tilted in AMD's favor in GPU market for most time of the history, so, let's not make circles around "but drivers", "but i kinda sorta feel it doesn't kinda sorta smoothly work, unles intelvidia" etc.
Yeah, feelings.
Yeah, brand loyality.
Yeah, half empty and half full.
No, most consumers are not making rational decisions.
Why are you in this thread? You have proven you are an AMD fanboy/shill. Let people talk about the new Nvidia card man, stop trying to push your damn agenda.
 

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Why are you in this thread? You have proven you are an AMD fanboy/shill. Let people talk about the new Nvidia card man, stop trying to push your damn agenda.
I mean let’s all be honest, anybody with any understanding of the free market and competition should want AMD to be successful and competitive. It’s already done wonders in the CPU realm. Had Ryzen been a dud, it’s likely Intel would still be pushing 4-core 8-thread CPUs with $200 mobos and a $450 CPU. AMd came in and jolted the market and now we have a 6 core (8700K) being sold often between $300-$350. While Intel still takes the overall performance crown, Ryzen offers much in the value realm. A win for everybody.

That’s great.

No doubt that the 580 and Vega are great GPUs but based on reviews, the consistency and price value simply isn’t there and I have to with the best as long as the price makes sense.

As I said I currently have a 1070 and really want to make 4K gaming my thing, but even the 1080 Ti isn’t there yet in terms of performance so therefore it makes sense for me to see what the 11-series are capable of.
 
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I actually want AMD to be better than Nvidia.

Here's the reality of the situation: next year, there's a good chance that we'll see 120hz OLED HDMI 2.1 variable refresh TVs. I want to use these for gaming.

Nvidia, being the evil mustache twirling cocksuckers that they are, wants to sell G-Sync modules and has absolutely no interest in supporting HDMI 2.1 variable refresh.

I'll be SHOCKED if the next round of Nvidia cards coming out support both HDMI 2.1 and variable refresh there. You know they'll try to weasel out of it. They even have those stupid BFG TVs coming out (that are taking way too long). Next year's OLEDs will make those BFG displays look like even more of a laughing stock if you can get variable refresh on them with Nvidia cards through HDMI 2.1.

AMD will be the first to support HDMI 2.1 though. But if AMD cards are too shitty and slow to take advantage of 4k/120hz, what good is it?

It really is pathetic that you have to choose between evil and incompetence.
 
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OLED is old news. Is all about miniLED now and then microLED. Oled is done.
I agree with you in principle, but the reality is that the blood sucking display manufacturing industry will bleed any rock it can for as long as it can. I'm expecting massive dragging of feet on MicroLED. If you actually want something within the next couple of years you're stuck with LCD or OLED.
 
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OLED is old news. Is all about miniLED now and then microLED. Oled is done.
OLED gives such obvious benefits (some drawbacks though like burn in) over conventional LCD screens that I don't really care that there is something better around the corner. Prices still haven't come down enough for me to purchase an OLED television so it's kinda pointless for me to even think about what's next. Sure, I have enough money to buy one but it wouldn't be a smart decision for me at the moment.
 

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OLED gives such obvious benefits (some drawbacks though like burn in) over conventional LCD screens that I don't really care that there is something better around the corner. Prices still haven't come down enough for me to purchase an OLED television so it's kinda pointless for me to even think about what's next. Sure, I have enough money to buy one but it wouldn't be a smart decision for me at the moment.
OLED is absolutely breathtaking. Once you own it, you will never go back. While, it doesn't reach the peak brightness, but once you see perfect contrast and image consistency LED.

Despite that, it will probably never be viable for a PC monitor.
 

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As I said I currently have a 1070 and really want to make 4K gaming my thing, but even the 1080 Ti isn’t there yet in terms of performance so therefore it makes sense for me to see what the 11-series are capable of.
I think 4k reconstruction is better use of resources.

Some of the better 4k reconstructions on console have been quite impressive and praised for the cleanliness and crispness.

I agree with you in principle, but the reality is that the blood sucking display manufacturing industry will bleed any rock it can for as long as it can. I'm expecting massive dragging of feet on MicroLED. If you actually want something within the next couple of years you're stuck with LCD or OLED.
It is unknown how long it will take to scale microled to massproduction, and if it will be viable or even cost competitive with future oled price drops. No reason to suspect it won't be viable, but it is not guaranteed.
 
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OLED gives such obvious benefits (some drawbacks though like burn in) over conventional LCD screens that I don't really care that there is something better around the corner. Prices still haven't come down enough for me to purchase an OLED television so it's kinda pointless for me to even think about what's next. Sure, I have enough money to buy one but it wouldn't be a smart decision for me at the moment.
Burn in was practically eliminated on the last gens of plasma, or such was the rumor. Adequate software detection of static content, and moving pixels around should make it extremely unlikely.
 

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Burn in was practically eliminated on the last gens of plasma, or such was the rumor. Adequate software detection of static content, and moving pixels around should make it extremely unlikely.
Agreed. I did back to back long runs of Dark Souls Remastered and Dark Souls 3. Two games with static hubs. Long 30+ hours play throughs. No image retention on my LG B7A OLED whatsoever. I did vary content and/or watch movies during those runs, but still those static images remained on screen for a while. I have read that image retention can vary from panel to panel, but I’m convinced burn in is of minimal concern.

Eventually I plan to get another TV to use for strictly for gaming and use my OLED for movies/streaming
 
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Agreed. I did back to back long runs of Dark Souls Remastered and Dark Souls 3. Two games with static hubs. Long 30+ hours play throughs. No image retention on my LG B7A OLED whatsoever. I did vary content and/or watch movies during those runs, but still those static images remained on screen for a while. I have read that image retention can vary from panel to panel, but I’m convinced burn in is of minimal concern.

Eventually I plan to get another TV to use for strictly for gaming and use my OLED for movies/streaming
OSC is right though in that microLED has benefits beyond just not having burn in. It's brighter and faster too. It's basically better in every single way.
 

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OSC is right though in that microLED has benefits beyond just not having burn in. It's brighter and faster too. It's basically better in every single way.
MicroLED is being developed and yes it will likely be better than OLED when it is available.

But it is still in the R&D phase and is several years away from being available and even longer before it is affordable.

If you’re waiting for MicroLED, you’re going to be waiting a while.
 
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MicroLED is being developed and yes it will likely be better than OLED when it is available.

But it is still in the R&D phase and is several years away from being available and even longer before it is affordable.

If you’re waiting for MicroLED, you’re going to be waiting a while.
Tangentially related to this, I think that companies like AMD and Intel would be really wise to get into display manufacturing. From what I understand (maybe this is wrong), MicroLED manufacturing is very different than other display manufacturing where it's mainly a problem with being able to make the LEDs small enough, and it seems like AMD and Intel have a lot of expertise in making crap small. If Intel could get in on this it'd be a whole new industry for them to offset their waning CPU sales.
 
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