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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2000 Series card reviews thread

I watched these two videos:


and this


Overall, seems like the cards are not worth it unless you want 4k and as much fps as possible. But they don't even go at 100hz.
 
7nm cards will be a significant leap again. I'm guessing we see a release like the 900 and 1000 series where you get the Titan card first then the xx80 ti card later.

3080 ti will probably be a hell of a card and a decent value but that's probably 18 months away...
 
DemonCleaner said:


spot on guys
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Just think about it for a moment; the DLLS'ed 1440p resolution in Final Fantasy has BETTER image quality than the 4K native resolution with TAA - And with much better performance.. What the hell kind of witchcraft is going on in the tensor cores..... And 2080 Ti reaching 92% better performance with DLSS over the 1080Ti with basically no visible image quality loss in the Infiltrator demo was also pretty interesting :)
 
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It's crazy but, Nvidia has never launched a TI with a new gen of cards before, they start with their 480, 580, 680, 780, 980, 1080 etc... and a few months later they reveal their TI card which is the maxed out version of the architecture/gen.....This time around though, I knew something was amiss, because had they not launched the 2080ti at the same time, this launch would have been even worse than it is. Imagine your flagship card RTX 2080 is only matching the Pascal1080ti and that's a non OC 1080ti at that......Yet Nvidia wants the masses to purchase a 2080 for anything from $800 and up for similar or less performance over a 1080ti or wants them to purchase a 2080ti at a significant markup ($1200) for a 15-30% uplift in games over a 1080ti.....I spent two hours listening to NV talk up RTX on, but here at launch RTX IS OFF....what gives....
 
DLSS looking kinda blurry in that FFXV demo. Wonder how it stacks up to checkerboard techniques and such.
 
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honestly kinda seems like we're getting ahead of ourselves a bit with technology

i mean i love my gtx 1080 ti, but i prolly ain't gonna fork over cash for another card until the midline 3x series. a $200 geforce 4 used to kick all kinds of ass for several generations, seems kinda shameful where we're at re: pricing
 
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Tesseract said:
honestly kinda seems like we're getting ahead of ourselves a bit with technology

i mean i love my gtx 1080 ti, but i prolly ain't gonna fork over cash for another card until the midline 3x series. a $200 geforce 4 used to kick all kinds of ass for several generations, seems kinda shameful where we're at re: pricing
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Buys a 1080 ti, complains that prices are getting a bump.

Gosh i wonder why.
 
Well it seems like anything other than the 2080 Ti is fucking useless. The 2080 is basically a 1080Ti in terms of performance.

Somebody please try and justify purchasing a 2080 for me. I need a good laugh.
 
Tesseract said:
i got my ti for $400 on amazon during a sale, i'm def not part of the problem
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A 1080 ti for $400? I check slickdeals everyday and Im seriously having a hard time believing a 1080Ti went on sale that low. No way.
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GreenAlien said:
Will DLSS improve over time? I mean, they are still training the AI over at Nvidia, right?
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Don't trust any technology that has to be delivered via some supercomputer on the other side of the fence........For so long PC was where you went if you wanted native, non-upscaling resolutions and high framerates. Now certain reviewers want to impress upon you that a 1440p image is so impressive because of the added perf, they want to impress upon you that this is better than CB, when no realtime game exists displaying DLSS, when we have not even seen the improved reconstruction algorithms on NAVI etc....Yet, I can clearly see missing details and more visual noise in that infiltrator demo with DLSS over TAA...

I saw a review show a 2080ti reach 80fps in a restricted demo with DLSS, no control of that demo whatsoever. Yet, comparing lower end cards vs the 2080ti at 1440p DLSS, just to show a huge markup.... Of course the 2080ti will perform exceedingly better, it's a worse rez and it's not as detailed......A 1080, 1080ti or even 2080 has less bandwidth than a 2080ti, to have the lesser cards at 4k with TAA and the 2080ti at 1440p DLSS is not ideal, it's disingenuous and frankly nobody envisions buying a $1200 to get framerates up that way, it should be eating 4k native alive.....
 
Decided against the 2080TI. Going to wait for the Titan. I just need more ram and more overall oomph.

I'm sure I'll have to spend upwards of 2k for it.
 
I'm so glad I grabbed a 1070ti with that Amazon price error, I almost passed on it to wait for... this...
 
thelastword said:
Don't trust any technology that has to be delivered via some supercomputer on the other side of the fence........For so long PC was where you went if you wanted native, non-upscaling resolutions and high framerates. Now certain reviewers want to impress upon you that a 1440p image is so impressive because of the added perf, they want to impress upon you that this is better than CB, when no realtime game exists displaying DLSS, when we have not even seen the improved reconstruction algorithms on NAVI etc....Yet, I can clearly see missing details and more visual noise in that infiltrator demo with DLSS over TAA...

I saw a review show a 2080ti reach 80fps in a restricted demo with DLSS, no control of that demo whatsoever. Yet, comparing lower end cards vs the 2080ti at 1440p DLSS, just to show a huge markup.... Of course the 2080ti will perform exceedingly better, it's a worse rez and it's not as detailed......A 1080, 1080ti or even 2080 has less bandwidth than a 2080ti, to have the lesser cards at 4k with TAA and the 2080ti at 1440p DLSS is not ideal, it's disingenuous and frankly nobody envisions buying a $1200 to get framerates up that way, it should be eating 4k native alive.....
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That's also my problem. DLSS sound great, but till now we only have set scenes and Nvidia has a long history of cheating in benchmarks. So getting DLSS to perform at its best in a predefined course seems easy for them. The real test comes with big AAA titles who are fast paced and have lots of different sceneries.

I seriously doubt that DLSS will look as clean when the player decides where to look.
 
Rbk_3 said:
How in the world can you not differentiate from 9 months ago and 3 years ago?
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The cool thing about amazon is you can pull up old invoices, and it shows the price you paid. Also a nifty smartphone function is being able to take pics of everyday objects, say a graphics card for instance.
 
vpance said:
DLSS looking kinda blurry in that FFXV demo. Wonder how it stacks up to checkerboard techniques and such.
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Eh, no it didn't? Did you look at the wrong output (look at the digital foundry video)? The best image quality was from the 1440p+DLSS output. The blurry one was the 4K+TAA combination. DLSS also came with no clear visible artifacts like checkerboard upscaling does (just look at when they show the guy's hair). Hence the reason for why people are surprised, because upscaling isn't supposed to be _that_ good.
 
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Tesseract said:
maybe it was holiday 2017, it's def a 1080 ti guys lol

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XXJMF19/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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First you're saying it was 2015 which was absolutely impossible and then you change your story to 2017, which means you're asking us to believe you can't tell the difference between almost 3 years ago and less than 10 months ago. I checked the pricing history and the price it's going for now is the cheapest it was ever been. There is absolutely no record of it ever being anywhere close to $400, especially at a time (Dec. 2017) when these cards prices were starting to creep up due to mining.

Sorry dude, but you're either totally lying or need to get your head looked at for memory loss. The only thing remotely plausible is that you actually bought a 980 Ti in Dec. of 2015 or (2016)
 
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So I've been looking at some reviews now regarding these cards and yeah the TIs are doing 4k at 60fps, but none of the games are actually using the RTX-functionality? Shadow of the Tomb Raider will get a future patch, Metro isn't out yet , battlefield is delayed.

I wonder how much of a performance impact you get doing RTX, you might not get the 4k/60fps experience.
I feel like the series is hard to judge currently, I'd honestly wait til you can actually review the feature (RTX) that is actually slapped on the side of the box.
 
The3DGameArtist said:
TIs are doing 4k at 60fps
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So did 1080Ti.

EXPERIENCE EVERY PIXEL WITH GEFORCE GTX 1080 TI.
Step up to the ultimate 4K gaming experience with the GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti and enjoy today's biggest games in amazing detail. With up to 2X the performance of previous generations, the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti delivers immersive 4K graphics at a buttery-smooth 60 frames per second.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/ultimate-4k/


The3DGameArtist said:
I wonder how much of a performance impact you get doing RTX, you might not get the 4k/60fps experience.
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TR demo was ran 1080p and didn't even have stable 60fps.
 
llien said:
So did 1080Ti.

EXPERIENCE EVERY PIXEL WITH GEFORCE GTX 1080 TI.
Step up to the ultimate 4K gaming experience with the GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti and enjoy today's biggest games in amazing detail. With up to 2X the performance of previous generations, the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti delivers immersive 4K graphics at a buttery-smooth 60 frames per second.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/ultimate-4k/



TR demo was ran 1080p and didn't even have stable 60fps.
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RIght yeah exactly, so I saw that tweet from their official twitter. But that was a month ago, when will the post-launch RTX update happen? I'd like to see RTX in action, not just from a demo and right now everybody are just providing demos of it.
 
JohnnyFootball said:
First you're saying it was 2015 which was absolutely impossible and then you change your story to 2017, which means you're asking us to believe you can't tell the difference between almost 3 years ago and less than 10 months ago. I checked the pricing history and the price it's going for now is the cheapest it was ever been. There is absolutely no record of it ever being anywhere close to $400, especially at a time (Dec. 2017) when these cards prices were starting to creep up due to mining.

Sorry dude, but you're either totally lying or need to get your head looked at for memory loss. The only thing remotely plausible is that you actually bought a 980 Ti in Dec. of 2015 or (2016)
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VectorVictor said:
If you look at the price history for this card, it wasn't on Amazon's store until April 2018.
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i don't know what to tell you dudes. i bought that exact card off amazon for $400, why the fuck would i lie about it.

edit, just pulled it up and this was the info :

ORDER PLACED
June 14, 2017
TOTAL
$105.22

Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Graphic Cards GV-N108TAORUS-11GD

Sold by: Amazon.com Services, Inc

$419.99
 
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Iorv3th said:
The card didn't come out until november 2017? Unless you are showing a different order on june 14th?
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nope, it came out when i bought it, although i'm pretty sure it was released a number of months before. i've had it in my rig since that date, i'm staring at the box.

feel free to look at the customer reviews, they go back to february.
 
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You know the next gen cards will arrive next year.
Tesseract said:
nope, it came out when i bought it, although i'm pretty sure it was released a number of months before. i've had it in my rig since that date, i'm staring at the box.

feel free to look at the customer reviews, they go back to february.
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well man, you got an amazing deal im sure many people here are jealous at that. good stuff!
 
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