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The game, from Clover Studios, is everything I was hoping for, a visually dazzling, imaginative action-adventure game that stands apart from the crowd.

The game is very reminiscent of the Legend of Zelda series, and is at least as good as those games.

But over all, this game is so visually striking, so original and so well done that most other game designers should look at it and then hang their heads in shame. It is proof that the important thing in game design is not the graphical processing power of the game console but the power of the designer’s imagination.

Also, an interesting view into the more casual observer's opinion on the direction of games.

I saw hundreds of games in development at E3, and they all looked pretty much alike. There were a bunch of first-person shooters I couldn’t tell apart, strategy games that looked the way strategy games always look and cartoony action adventures that looked like the previous year’s crop. Public relations people were praising the improved graphics of the brand-new Xbox 360, boasting that you could see the players’ sweat in a sports game, but to me the 360 games were just slightly sweatier versions of the games that had come out the year before.

Nothing too new, just reiteration that the opinions of GAF rarely reflect the world at large.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Awesome. And true.

I wish this game wasn't going to bomb.

 

[AniHawk]

360 games were just slightly sweatier versions of the games that had come out the year before.

Yeah, but imagine what Okami could've been on a next-gen console with improved physics and lighting. That's where the true next step in game design is, not "imagination"

 

[speedpop]

Getting my copy of Okami soon, can't wait for it.


Also...
Casual > hardcore.

 

[bud]

Awesome. And true.

I wish this game wasn't going to bomb.

Well, it did about 250k in japan (i think) and a total of 500k worldwide would be pretty good for this game.

 

[Solid]

This will fit perfect next to VJ.

Hurry with the PAL release, Capcom. I want it before Xmas.

 

[gconsole]

Well, it did about 250k in japan (i think) and a total of 500k worldwide would be pretty good for this game.

In fact it only did around 130k in japan
hopefully the world will get more attention to this game.

 

[drohne]

why is the new york times publishing someone who writes like a gamespot editor?

 

[Ghengis Cohen]

why is the new york times publishing someone who writes like greg kasavin?

They actually have a number of writers (mostly travel writers) who write like this.

 

[beelzebozo]

why is the new york times publishing someone who writes like a gamespot editor?

because they're not condescending.

 

[Ryun1]

They are hit and miss when it comes to game-related stuff.
On the NYT's new Tech Talk podcast dated yesterday, the reporters, obviously reading from a press release, express dismay over the Wii’s nunchuk attachment.

J.D. Biersdorfer: “It also comes with a nunchuk controller. I guess there’ll be some kind of martial arts thing, perhaps”

Tom Holcomb: “Oh, boy. I’m not sure that’s a great idea.”

J.D. Biersdorfer: “Yeah, I guess it depends on the age of your kids and whether you want them nunchuking each other on the head.”

Tom Holcomb: “Remember what Bruce Lee did to teenagers with those nunchuks.

J.D. Biersdorfer: “It can be a little aggressive, perhaps, but they’re also encouraging community.”

Starts at 4:43 in the podcast
http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/podcasts/techtalk.xml

 

[beelzebozo]

They are hit and miss when it comes to game-related stuff.
On the NYT's new Tech Talk podcast dated yesterday, the reporters, obviously reading from a press release, express dismay over the Wii’s nunchuk attachment.

J.D. Biersdorfer: “It also comes with a nunchuk controller. I guess there’ll be some kind of martial arts thing, perhaps”

Tom Holcomb: “Oh, boy. I’m not sure that’s a great idea.”

J.D. Biersdorfer: “Yeah, I guess it depends on the age of your kids and whether you want them nunchuking each other on the head.”

Tom Holcomb: “Remember what Bruce Lee did to teenagers with those nunchuks.

J.D. Biersdorfer: “It can be a little aggressive, perhaps, but they’re also encouraging community.”

Starts at 4:43 in the podcast
http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/podcasts/techtalk.xml

christ that's so stupid

 

[velvet_nitemare]

Got it yesterday and was blown away...awesome stuff

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

Hopefully we see Okami 2 next gen. In fact, lets being the campaign!

 

[Pureauthor]

They are hit and miss when it comes to game-related stuff.
On the NYT's new Tech Talk podcast dated yesterday, the reporters, obviously reading from a press release, express dismay over the Wii’s nunchuk attachment.

J.D. Biersdorfer: “It also comes with a nunchuk controller. I guess there’ll be some kind of martial arts thing, perhaps”

Tom Holcomb: “Oh, boy. I’m not sure that’s a great idea.”

J.D. Biersdorfer: “Yeah, I guess it depends on the age of your kids and whether you want them nunchuking each other on the head.”

Tom Holcomb: “Remember what Bruce Lee did to teenagers with those nunchuks.

J.D. Biersdorfer: “It can be a little aggressive, perhaps, but they’re also encouraging community.”

Starts at 4:43 in the podcast
http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/podcasts/techtalk.xml

*headdesk*

 

[drohne]

because they're not condescending.

yeah, screw those hoity toity ny times movie critics with their "insight" and their "individuality" and their "signs of cognitive activity." it's like they think they're better than me.

i dunno -- i guess i only read the arts section and the book review, but i expected an ny times piece about okami to be...you know...interesting.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Hopefully we see Okami 2 next gen. In fact, lets being the campaign!

I am being the campaign!

 

[Ranger X]

I thought those opinions up there (except maybe the 360 related one) was pretty much what we hear on GAF.
Personally i have to agree with the opinions in question.

 

[Clever Pun]

at least I can sleep at night as a gamer with the knowledge that I've done what I can to support this beautiful game (i.e. I bought the damn thing)

 

[Morbid Angel]

This will fit perfect next to VJ.

Hurry with the PAL release, Capcom. I want it before Xmas.

The release date is February 07 I think

 

[dyls]

yeah, screw those hoity toity ny times movie critics with their "insight" and their "individuality" and their "signs of cognitive activity." it's like they think they're better than me.

i dunno -- i guess i only read the arts section and the book review, but i expected an ny times piece about okami to be...you know...interesting.

Yeah, they're game reviews (and general coverage) aren't nearly up to the standards of the rest of the 'Arts' sections. I tell you, games don't get no regard, none at all. No esteem either.

We need Manhola Dargis reviewing games.

 

[Teleporter]

Saturday ill be playing this masterpiece! Nice...
Oh anyone knows if this game supports widescreen and Progressive Scan 512p?

Thanks!

 

[DarknessTear]

Hopefully we see Okami 2 next gen. In fact, lets being the campaign!

In an interview the big Clover Studios guy was talking about how new IPs keep things fresh, not sequels. So I dunno if they have plans on sequel-izing it.

 

[Solid]

Saturday ill be playing this masterpiece! Nice...
Oh anyone knows if this game supports widescreen and Progressive Scan 512p?

Thanks!

No WS. I saw some people cry about it in the official thread.

 

[metroid23]

I'm still playing it on my 16:9 stretched and I have not felt the need to change to a 4:3 format. It looks just fine.

 

[Oblivion]

In an interview the big Clover Studios guy was talking about how new IPs keep things fresh, not sequels. So I dunno if they have plans on sequel-izing it.

Not sequelizing? Capcom? :lol

They've already run Viewtiful Joe into the ground.

Though Okami would be a different matter, I think...

 

[Flynn]

why is the new york times publishing someone who writes like a gamespot editor?

That's what I was thinking. Peter Olafson did a much better job.

 

[Teleporter]

No WS. I saw some people cry about it in the official thread.

No progressive scan them? No "hold X button on boot screen stuff?" ... Too bad!
I bet it still looks amazing though!

 

[DarknessTear]

Not sequelizing? Capcom? :lol

They've already run Viewtiful Joe into the ground.

Though Okami would be a different matter, I think...

He actually mentioned how VJ2 was unsuccessful compared to VJ1.

 

[monchi-kun]

He actually mentioned how VJ2 was unsuccessful compared to VJ1.

i really hope Capcom takes care of this series as well as Nintendo does with Zelda.

This game makes me feel "good"

 

[Mr. Spinnington]

Not sequelizing? Capcom? :lol

They've already run Viewtiful Joe into the ground.

Though Okami would be a different matter, I think...

Don't ban me, but with the amount of chatter for how this game should go to the Wii, I wouldn't put it out of our minds for a sequel on that console. However, with the current state of cel-sading in games like Trusty Bell, I would totally love a full blown sequel on the PS3 and/or 360. Make it happen!

He actually mentioned how VJ2 was unsuccessful compared to VJ1.

I can see that.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Put it on Wii. It'll get a few more sales, even if it doesn't outsell the PS2 version. It should really fit in well with who you'd assume the early adapters of Wii will be.

 

[Cronox]

Yeah, but imagine what Okami could've been on a next-gen console with improved physics and lighting. That's where the true next step in game design is, not "imagination"

Too bad they'd never raise the budget for a game like this on 360 or PS3...

 

[DarknessTear]

Put it on Wii. It'll get a few more sales, even if it doesn't outsell the PS2 version. It should really fit in well with who you'd assume the early adapters of Wii will be.

Already been talked about before, they say it won't work on the Wii because it's an action game designed for the PS2 controller.

 

[Baker]

No progressive scan them? No "hold X button on boot screen stuff?" ... Too bad!
I bet it still looks amazing though!

Not according to the Gamespot review. No 480p and no 16x9.

 

[Branduil]

Already been talked about before, they say it won't work on the Wii because it's an action game designed for the PS2 controller.

 

[Mr. Spinnington]

Oh Christ. Clover specifically designed it for the Dual Shock controller. This is the exact reason why the only way we might find this on the Wii is through a sequel, where they'd have to create a whole new engine for the mechanics.

 

[Amir0x]

buy a ****ing PS2, and play one of the greatest games ever. cry cry a river if you don't

 

[Branduil]

Oh Christ. Clover specifically designed it for the Dual Shock controller. This is the exact reason why the only way we might find this on the Wii is through a sequel, where they'd have to create a whole new engine for the mechanics.

The Dual Shock is an extremely generic controller. From what I played of the demo the game is great, but I don't see how it's use of the Dual Shock was so unique as to make it unportable.

 

[Solid]

Thats one of the things I like most about Clover. They seem to go for original games. Viewtiful Joe, Okami, God Hand etc. Keep it that way please.

 

[mugwhump]

Yeah, but imagine what Okami could've been on a next-gen console with improved physics and lighting. That's where the true next step in game design is, not "imagination"

... I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. X|

 

[Amir0x]

Okami takes cues from Zelda but so far it is NOTHING compared to Zelda. Whoever thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

I ****ing think otherwise, and I'm not fooling myself either. You're starting to sound bitter.

 

[White Man]

Okami takes cues from Zelda but so far it is NOTHING compared to Zelda. Whoever thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

This is by a decent margin better than any of the 3D Zeldas.

 

[monchi-kun]

Okami takes cues from Zelda but so far it is NOTHING compared to Zelda. Whoever thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

Okami stands on its own w/o being compared to Zelda!!!

 

[Solid]

This thread is now doomed.

 

[Branduil]

And now this thread is about to be ruined.

With the egging on of the mods, no less.

 

[mugwhump]

This is by a decent margin better than any of the 3D Zeldas.

This is a nice thread, you don't have to try to kill it.

 

[Oblivion]

Okami takes cues from Zelda but so far it is NOTHING compared to Zelda. Whoever thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

Woah. Weren't you hyped to hell on this game?

 

[6.8]

This is by a decent margin better than any of the 3D Zeldas.

Well, unless at the very middle it makes you go on the best fetch quest ever, you're wrong.

 

[White Man]

This is a nice thread, you don't have to try to kill it.

Himuro and the NYT started it! And Nintendo, by dropping the ball on 3d Zelda!