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NYT: Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence
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Or maybe the Steele report is actually true and they know it. Leaks have been pointing to the fact that the IC has been able to verify more of it as time goes on. If Congress were able to get at Trump's tax returns, then there'd likely be some more proof they'd need.
Mr. Giggles
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Dig baby, Dig!
It's a proper term that's used as a slur for career Civil Service people.
Not usually into Reddit conspiracy theories but it's been obvious for a long time that Russia is after Ukraine's warm water ports. In everyday life we pretend otherwise, but geography still matters immensely in this world. Hard to have killer trade deals when you have to ship your shit through another country.
BlackGhost
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It hasn't even been a month 🤔
I guess I still can't connect the dots as to how this brings down Trump.
Republicans in congress won't care, can't make them care, and they've already established their loyalty when not even one would flip on Devos or Sessions, not to mention they had the opportunity to obtain the Trump tax returns and passed!
Republican voters won't care. Sure, they will be unhappy with Trump and "congress" overall, but will still show up to support their local representative. They certainly won't start voting for Democrats.
2018 won't flip the house or senate.
2020 probably will.... so.... maybe Trump doesn't win reelection? Is that really going to be the outcome?
Republicans in congress won't care, can't make them care, and they've already established their loyalty when not even one would flip on Devos or Sessions, not to mention they had the opportunity to obtain the Trump tax returns and passed!
Republican voters won't care. Sure, they will be unhappy with Trump and "congress" overall, but will still show up to support their local representative. They certainly won't start voting for Democrats.
2018 won't flip the house or senate.
2020 probably will.... so.... maybe Trump doesn't win reelection? Is that really going to be the outcome?
Dead Prince
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Very un-american.
KernelPanic
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I think it's still unclear if it's treason but it's certainly an unprecedented level of corruption to the tune of billions.
*sensible chuckle*
Trail Guide
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Fuck me! I don't think I can handle four years of waking up to these ever increasing scandals.
You're totally right, I didn't think about any of that. Even if it's true, he will keep denying it forever. Once again, I'm reminded of the Argentine ex-president Cristina Kirchner, who was the same. Living in their own reality, denying the truth, declaring war against the media and courts, tweeting a lot (though she used to appear on TV much more on what is called "cadena nacional", which is a sort of emergency alert system).
I really feel bad for North Americans. Having someone like this as president is never a good thing, and can cause severe harm to the country and its population.
If you want to know how all of this will probably end, just read this :
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0586210059/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0586210059/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Yes, he dies
Guess what? You're the President. Take responsibility for something. If there are leaks in your administration, it's on you.
How about you working for another country?
Phantast2k
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The 1. & 2. rounds of sanctions in the wake of the annexation were only directed vs individuals:
On 6 March 2014, US president Barack Obama, invoking, inter alia, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and the National Emergencies Act, signed an executive order that declared a national emergency and ordered sanctions, including travel bans and the freezing of their U.S. assets, against not-yet-specified individuals, later to be determined by the Secretary of the Treasury (in consultation with the Secretary of State) who had "asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine" and whose actions were found, inter alia, to "undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine"
On 28 April, the United States imposed a ban on business transactions within its territory on seven Russian officials, including Igor Sechin, executive chairman of the Russian state oil company Rosneft, and seventeen Russian companies.[24] On the same day, the European Union issued travel bans against a further fifteen individuals.[25] In connection with this, the EU issued a paper stating the aims of the sanctions. The EU states that their "sanctions are not punitive, but designed to bring about a change in policy or activity by the target country, entities or individuals. Measures are therefore always targeted at such policies or activities, the means to conduct them and those responsible for them. At the same time, the EU makes every effort to minimise adverse consequences for the civilian population or for legitimate activities"
This tepid reaction to the first Sudetenland type annexation on the European continent since almost a century was laughable and emboldened Putin to go further into Donbass.
/Also I'm not sure anything substantial would happen if Russia attacked Belarus in the same way they did in Ukraine.
Unless he is going for a roundhouse kick.
Emerson
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The House can flip in 2018.
Republicans haven't done anything yet, but they're nervous. It's very clear to see. Every single say pushes them closer to flipping.
And two republicans flipped on DeVos, not zero. Last I checked, four were saying no on Puzder.
Also, Flynn was forced to resign because of stories like this. They are NOT immune to consequences.
I'm so sick of this attitude.
Snowybreak
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Why do I keep hearing Tommy Wiseau's voice in my head any time I read a trump tweet?
Punchy4486
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I think you're mis-reading this. He's not claiming Obama was wrong and soft on Russia.
He's calling his critics biased for not calling Obama a Russian stooge too, thus justifying and defending his own stance.
LegendofJoe
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The people who in most agencies work for less pay than they would otherwise receive in the private sector because they want to serve the country - what a bunch of monsters.
CIA airing Trump ties to Russia to prevent blackmail report
The CIA has reportedly been working to prevent the possibility of the Kremlin blackmailing US President Donald Trump by deliberately making public everything regarding the presidents ties with Russia.
A report Wednesday by Walla newss veteran diplomatic correspondent Oren Nahari cited an Israeli official, who said a senior member of the US intelligence community told him the agency suspects that Russia has information on Trump that can be used to pressure the US leader. As a countermeasure, US intelligence operatives are quickly leaking everything they learn about ties between Russia and the Trump administration so that the information cant be used as leverage against the president.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/cia-airing-trump-ties-to-russia-to-prevent-possible-blackmail-report/
The CIA has reportedly been working to prevent the possibility of the Kremlin blackmailing US President Donald Trump by deliberately making public everything regarding the presidents ties with Russia.
A report Wednesday by Walla newss veteran diplomatic correspondent Oren Nahari cited an Israeli official, who said a senior member of the US intelligence community told him the agency suspects that Russia has information on Trump that can be used to pressure the US leader. As a countermeasure, US intelligence operatives are quickly leaking everything they learn about ties between Russia and the Trump administration so that the information cant be used as leverage against the president.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/cia-airing-trump-ties-to-russia-to-prevent-possible-blackmail-report/
Well, the US presidency is acting against the US' interests, so I think this is fair game. And as far as I know, actual impropriety has been confirmed already, and the current government did nothing to fix that situation. Don't try to paint them as victims, please.
TheOfficeMut
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lol I'm trying to get into the public sector as a civil servant. Am I automatically deemed irredeemable and corrupt?
From Times of Israel the day Trump is going to meet Netanyahu?
That's... Actually oddly clever.
I agree that it's dumb. Just as it's dumb to use socialist as a slur or go foaming at the mouth over the word neoliberal, but it's still a term that's not always used as a slur.
Woo-Fu
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As far as I can tell "doing the right thing" doesn't even make Trump's top 10 list most days.
Phantast2k
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I'm not sure I understand. Is Times of Israel pro-Netanyahu and if so how is this benefiting him?
/seems plausible to me btw.
There is also this.
CIA Chief Meets Palestinian President Abbas Ahead of Netanyahu-Trump Summit: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/1.771886
Kid Kamikaze10
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LOOOL, I don't, but I'm just laughing at how many plans he's fucking up with this shit. Like, the whole world was given to dude, and he still fucks it up.
I would be TIGHT if I was Priebus.
100%TrophyMaster
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*Obama sits back in his recliner, pulls out a cigar and turns on some Justin Timberlake*
Crimea river
Trump Crimea rivaaaaaaa
Crimea river
KernelPanic
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It's no secret that Trump has lots of debt and a lot of it is to Russia. Pretty easy leverage for Putin, piss tape or no.
Trump has been sucking up to Russia back when Gorbachev was still in power too. It's not just Putin.
Trump has been sucking up to Russia back when Gorbachev was still in power too. It's not just Putin.
Kinda related to all this spying stuff.
This is . . . Nixonian: Reporter was taped by White House in heated exchange: https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...no-name:homepage/story&utm_term=.3e5f37a84a52
This is . . . Nixonian: Reporter was taped by White House in heated exchange: https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...no-name:homepage/story&utm_term=.3e5f37a84a52
Sho_Nuff82
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If they can get everyone in the Trump admin with direct personal, financial, or political ties to Russia out on the street, that would be a good start. That we allowed the administration to be sworn in without the president himself declaring his financial conflicts (by way of his tax returns) is a forever L to the American people.
You mean clever as in: so Trump won't do silly things in response or clever so Russia can't hurt the US by this. If the latter, that won't make much sense...
ArchedThunder
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Makes sense, burn Trump to the ground so Putin loses his control.
It makes it so that if Russia releases the tape then it proves every accusation that's been leveled against them true and hurts any foreign relations they have going forward, so they can't use it for leverage. It also forces Trump to not do everything Russia wants to avoid looking like he's a puppet.
RPGCrazied
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And I bet they were Bannon and Miller. Can those two go now? I know removing Trump will be a little harder, but these two should have been removed a long time ago.
LOL!
Buttery meals...
"Look at my inauguration crowd size, biggest ever, and size of my electoral college win, best ever, so this is what people want. Also Clinton emails and Obama. Did I mention inauguration crowd?"
RPGCrazied
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Is that real? That guy is so guilty. He is finger pointing now.
TheOfficeMut
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Hey, Putin, is this everything you wanted in him?
You know he gave you the USA
You had him in the palm of your hand
So why your love went away
He just can't seem to understand
Thought it was you and him, baby
You and him until the end
But I guess he was wrong
Don't want to think about it
Don't want to talk about it
He's just so sick about it
Can't believe it's ending this way
Just so confused about it
Feeling the blues about it
You just can't do without him
Tell him, is this fair?
Is this the way it's really going down?
Is this how he says goodbye?
Should have known better when you came around
That you were gonna make Trump cry
It's breaking his heart to watch you run around
'Cause he knows that he's living a lie
That's okay, baby, 'cause in time he will find
Trump goes around, goes around, goes around
Comes all the way back around
Yeah thats bull,oh he lied to us but thats no problem!
Sho_Nuff82
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I believe that's the journalist being quoted there.
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