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[kame-sennin]

Sure a black man can run for president. theres nothing inherently wrong with that.
People who have a problem with Obama generally just dont like the guy. They would vote for a black candidate they agreed with. I certainly would.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact that many Americans don't want to listen to a debate about a tough racial issue. I'm talking about the fact that the media loved Obama when he wasn't talking about race, but as soon as they found out he had a militant "uncle" they flipped out. They never even bothered to debate whether or not the Reverend had a point. All they wanted to do was condemn him and force Obama to condemn him. I've already said it a bunch of times, so forgive me if you've read it before but, it's ok to be black, just don't talk about black issues. That's the lesson the media is teaching here.

 

[Lefty42o]

Bill Cosby manages/managed (not sure if he is still on speaking tour?) to do it often. There is a difference between mentioning the past and blaming it for all that ails ya.

where did any one use race as an excuse?

 

[harSon]

If he's talking about Rod Parsley, I believe he called him, "a spiritual guide," which is ambiguous.


edit: it's hypocritical to say Obama shouldn't get any flack for comments he distanced himself from when McCain does the same and gets flack for it here nonetheless.

APF, cut the bullshit. We are using Parsley as an example of a double standard.

 

[AmishNazi]

So if hillary or McCain went to a church with a pastor who was a klan member you would be cool with it since it is only sundays?

Please show me where Reverend Wright ever said "Kill Whitey" or "send them all back to europe". Plus McCain went after a endorsement that said we need to "eradicate" Islam. A nation built on religious freedom has a presidental candidate courting someone who supports terrorism by giving the other side propaganda. Yet not a word was said. No two weeks of stories. No 1,000+ page on the gaf. Nothing.

 

[worldrunover]

So if hillary or McCain went to a church with a pastor who was a klan member you would be cool with it since it is only sundays?

It would be none of my business, and as long as she wasn't going to rallies with hoods on, it shouldn't matter.

BTW this guy isn't the equivalent of a klan member.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

No I'm not baiting you. Your logic if fucking retarded. Black people are not voting for him just because he is black they are voting for him because he has a reasonable chance of winning the election. I don't see it much more differently than that.

Your argument is essentially that Black people are fucking sheep and will vote for any negro that you prop up on stage.




Those people wouldn't vote for him anyways. No loss for him in that sense, and if he doesn't win the election because of that attitude then we haven't learned much as an nation anyways. So back to where we have always been. No net loss for America.

To be fair,alot of black people are voteing for him because he is black.But I voted for him in florida because I think he is the only one that can bring this nation together to get things done.

 

[HokieJoe]

crack is cheaper and a drug found more in black communities. powder cocaine is a more high end drug and tends to be used more by whites.


they are both cocaine but crack has worse mandatory jail sentences. sometimes way worse than those of powder cocaine.

and we are not talking sellers we are talking users and possession. its unfair and hurts blacks way more than any other race cause this drug is a plague on our community.


so how is crack having worse mandatory sentences than powder cocaine fair?

One could argue that in terms of distribution, crack is a more harmful drug than cocaine. It's easier to buy because it's cheaper. It's easier to distribute because it's cheaper. The result is, more people are addicted to the substance because of economics. In composite terms then, the harm suffered as a result of crack is greater than cocaine because it affects more people.

In my area of the country, I would guess that far more people are convicted of using, distributing, and committing crimes to help support their Oxycontin, and meth habits. Crack/cocaine- not so much. The majority indicted are poor whites. The question is, do convictions have more to do with being from a lower socioeconomic status, race, or a combination of both? I'd guess both.

 

[quest]

im curious. but. where were all you people when we were discussing actual politics. did you guys not join in the discussion because you couldnt think of any good counter arguments.. i guess its much easier now that race has been injected into this campaign.

:_(

They tried but were run off by the Obama defense squad. Now that the Obama defense squad is on the run people are coming in for pay back I guess.

 

[Jonm1010]

No I'm not baiting you. Your logic if fucking retarded. Black people are not voting for him just because he is black they are voting for him because he has a reasonable chance of winning the election. I don't see it much more differently than that.

Your argument is essentially that Black people are fucking sheep and will vote for any negro that you prop up on stage.




Those people wouldn't vote for him anyways. No loss for him in that sense, and if he doesn't win the election because of that attitude then we haven't learned much as an nation anyways. So back to where we have always been. No net loss for America.

What the fuck my post was telling innotech how stupid he is for saying that hatred toward blacks or racism is dead. How the fuck you got that out of it I may never know.

 

[APF]

Having the Presidency be based on the result of a debate on "tough racial issues" is probably not what anyone--black or white or whatever ethnicity--really wants in this country, and to suggest that's somehow indicative of white racism (or "uncomfortably" with black candidates who are too black) is perhaps just a tad myopic.

harSon: why are you using a garnish to show how you and people here who are defending Obama have a double-standard?

 

[Innotech]

Im amazed you know the thoughts of 300 million americans.

I have many talents.

 

[Loudninja]

So I take it this topic is not going well?

 

[maynerd]

They tried but were run off by the Obama defense squad. Now that the Obama defense squad is on the run people are coming in for pay back I guess.

The ODS is on the run?

 

[domokunrox]

You can't be serious :lol

Well, you're half right. Jews have had it very rough, possibly worse than the blacks if we go back thousands of years to Egypt.

BUT I don't think it's fair to say that Jews have made some sort of adjustments and black people need to get on the ball. For one, you can't necessarily tell someone is Jewish by looking at them. There is an AUTOMATIC prejudice against black people because of their skin color.

Furthermore in THIS country (which is what we're talking about) Jews have been integrated in society for hundreds of years and for the most part have not had the trials and tribulations in THIS country that they have elsewhere. Blacks have had it bad for 300 years here. There's no getting around it. You can't really compare the situations. It's not really close.

Wow, you know. I think you don't know that the racist south hate the Jews just as much as they hate Blacks. You're right that Blacks have it particularly bad in this country. They have it much better elsewhere in the world. Jews have it pretty bad everywhere. I digress, however. We're talking about here, and STILL nobody here has ever been a slave, nobody has been denied the american dream. You have to work for it, like everyone else. If you get anything out of what I just said. Take that with you. Work for it, you get it. Don't complain about how your black parents didn't get a chance because thats a load of bullshit. My mexican father came here at age 16 and didn't know a single word of english and graduated high school with better grades then kids who speak perfect english. He was called a wetback, and often chased off the campus by idiots. I don't want to fucking hear anyone's shit especially not from obama

 

[Particle Physicist]

They tried but were run off by the Obama defense squad. Now that the Obama defense squad is on the run people are coming in for pay back I guess.

no they didnt. people that had good counter points and arguments continued discussing throughout most of this campaign. most of the people i have seen posting in these 'race' threads, have almost never posted in other political threads.

if they had, and their posts were filled with substance and good arguments.. they wouldnt have been 'run off.' i dont know who started that bullshit, but its complete nonsense.

this isnt even a political discussion. its a freaken lynch mob.

 

[Kastrioti]

The Obama cum guzzlers are on another realm of damage control.

Obama from a couple of days ago when this story finally became an issue:

“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”

Senator Obama today:

Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/18/politics/main3947908.shtml

Right out of the gate you know the guy is lying about his association with this nutjob.

Some quotes from Jeremiah Wright the man who helped mentor Obama.

"We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . ."

"No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body."

Considering this view of America, it's not surprising that in December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."

As for Mr. Wright's repeated comments blaming America for the 9/11 attacks because of what Mr. Wright calls its racist and violent policies, Mr. Obama has said it sounds as if the minister was trying to be "provocative."

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1

All this on the eve of Michelle Obama saying for the first time "in her adult life she is proud to be an American."

Any sane person would've walked out of that church with the hate filled speech coming out of the pastors/preachers/rabbi/iman's mouth. Yet Obama was a member of this racist cult for 20 years, and had his kids baptized by this guy.

It's nice to see America seeing this guy for the fraud he is.

 

[Lefty42o]

One could argue that in terms of distribution, crack is a more harmful drug than cocaine. It's easier to buy because it's cheaper. It's easier to distribute because it's cheaper. The result is, more people are addicted to the substance because of economics. In composite terms then, the harm suffered as a result of crack is greater than cocaine because it affects more people.

In my area of the country, I would guess that far more people are convicted of using, distributing, and committing crimes to help support their Oxycontin, and meth habits. Crack/cocaine- not so much. The majority indicted are poor whites. The question is, do convictions have more to do with being from a lower socioeconomic status, race, or a combination of both? I'd guess both.

no one said not to punish them. just the diff in mandatory sentences was HUGE. and studies for years showed it hurt minorities much worse.

which is why those rules have been changed recently. so this is a argument after the fact. but points out issues that are there.

 

[Innotech]

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact that many Americans don't want to listen to a debate about a tough racial issue. I'm talking about the fact that the media loved Obama when he wasn't talking about race, but as soon as they found out he had a militant "uncle" they flipped out. They never even bothered to debate whether or not the Reverend had a point. All they wanted to do was condemn him and force Obama to condemn him. I've already said it a bunch of times, so forgive me if you've read it before but, it's ok to be black, just don't talk about black issues. That's the lesson the media is teaching here.

the Media are a bunch of fucking sheep. do you actually pay attention to what Media says about politics? when an accident or disaster happens, I trust the media to report it but I turn the TV off when they utter a word about politics or try to bend something a certain way.

 

[maynerd]

Wow, you know. I think you don't know that the racist south hate the Jews just as much as they hate Blacks. You're right that Blacks have it particularly bad in this country. They have it much better elsewhere in the world. Jews have it pretty bad everywhere. I digress, however. We're talking about here, and STILL nobody here has ever been a slave, nobody has been denied the american dream. You have to work for it, like everyone else. If you get anything out of what I just said. Take that with you. Work for it, you get it. Don't complain about how your black parents didn't get a chance because thats a load of bullshit. My mexican father came here at age 16 and didn't know a single word of english and graduated high school with better grades then kids who speak perfect english. He was called a wetback, and often chased off the campus by idiots. I don't want to fucking hear anyone's shit especially not from obama

You might want to just stop posting.

 

[APF]

"If it bleeds it leads" works for you sometimes and against you sometimes.

 

[Lefty42o]

all kinds of bs.

what? did you even see or read the speech. your like 5 days late and alot of money short.


and i mean this in the nicest way stfu

 

[Particle Physicist]

The Obama cum guzzlers are on another realm of damage control.

Obama from a couple of days ago when this story finally became an issue:



Senator Obama today:



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/18/politics/main3947908.shtml

Right out of the gate you know the guy is lying about his association with this nutjob.

[]http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20080316ObamaWebNoWright.jpg[/IMG]

Some quotes from Jeremiah Wright the man who helped mentor Obama.













http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1

All this on the eve of Michelle Obama saying for the first time "in her adult life she is proud to be an American."

Any sane person would've walked out of that church with the hate filled speech coming out of the pastors/preachers/rabbi/iman's mouth. Yet Obama was a member of this racist cult for 20 years, and had his kids baptized by this guy.

It's nice to see America seeing this guy for the fraud he is.

read those quotes again: "Wright made that are the cause of THIS controversy were not statements"

"did I ever hear him make remarks that COULD be considered controversial "


he's not talking about the same remarks. he is saying that he knew some of the remarks he had heard, could be considered controversial.. but he had not heard those that are being used against him now.

 

[quest]

no they didnt. people that had good counter points and arguments continued discussing throughout most of this campaign. most of the people i have seen posting in these 'race' threads, have almost never posted in other political threads.

if they had, and their posts were filled with substance and good arguments.. they wouldnt have been 'run off.' i dont know who started that bullshit, but its complete nonsense.

this isnt even a political discussion. its a freaken lynch mob.

Go back to the other political thread. Someone has anything negative to say about obama. The Obama defense force assembles. They berate the offending poster till they give up.

 

[AmishNazi]

The Obama cum guzzlers are on another realm of damage control.

WTF ever. Good to see that the America is always right defense force is still using insults from the 90's.

 

[APF]

read those quotes again: "Wright made that are the cause of THIS controversy were not statements"

"did I ever hear him make remarks that COULD be considered controversial "


he's not talking about the same remarks. he is saying that he knew some of the remarks he had heard, could be considered controversial.. but he had not heard those that are being used against him now.

Wow, and *I* get accused of parsing words too strictly.

 

[Loudninja]

The Obama cum guzzlers are on another realm of damage control.

Obama from a couple of days ago when this story finally became an issue:



Senator Obama today:



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/18/politics/main3947908.shtml

Right out of the gate you know the guy is lying about his association with this nutjob.


Some quotes from Jeremiah Wright the man who helped mentor Obama.













http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1

All this on the eve of Michelle Obama saying for the first time "in her adult life she is proud to be an American."

Any sane person would've walked out of that church with the hate filled speech coming out of the pastors/preachers/rabbi/iman's mouth. Yet Obama was a member of this racist cult for 20 years, and had his kids baptized by this guy.

It's nice to see America seeing this guy for the fraud he is.

How can so much crap be in 1 post?

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

To be fair,alot of black people are voteing for him because he is black.But I voted for him in florida because I think he is the only one that can bring this nation together to get things done.

We know that to be true no big issue, the same can not be said for other blacks that have run for president such as Sharpton, Combs, or Jackson. The bigger issue is that MORE Blacks are voting that is the good thing he has been good at energizing the black population that has been traditionally lethargic (in recent years) when it comes to voting. An engaged voting populace is a good thing.

 

[kame-sennin]

Some quotes from Jeremiah Wright the man who helped mentor Obama.

I only had a problem with his implication that the AIDS virus was manufactured (and only because there is no evidence to support such a claim) and his praising of Farrakhan. His other comments may have been provocative, but they were grounded in truth. They were not worthy of your sanctimonious condemnation.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Go back to the other political thread. Someone has anything negative to say about obama. The Obama defense force assembles. They berate the offending poster till they give up.

and those people continue coming back and posting?

once again.. most of the people in these threads have never posted in those other threads.. so they cant claim being 'run off'

 

[domokunrox]

Go back to the other political thread. Someone has anything negative to say about obama. The Obama defense force assembles. They berate the offending poster till they give up.

Pretty much sums up why I'm about to leave this thread.

 

[numble]

I find it amusing that many of the people that are accusing Obama of playing the race card are playing their own race cards.

 

[Jonm1010]

The Obama cum guzzlers are on another realm of damage control.

Obama from a couple of days ago when this story finally became an issue:



.

“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”

Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.

All this proves is that Obama has heard him say inflamatory things not that he lied about hearing those two speeches the media keeps playing. try again.

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

not sure why this is ammo theres a lot of truth in this.

 

[Lefty42o]

Go back to the other political thread. Someone has anything negative to say about obama. The Obama defense force assembles. They berate the offending poster till they give up.

or maybe the people posting negative stuff is not posting all the info. or posting 1 poll and ignoring all the others. and a rebuttal is not some "defense force" let alone berate someone.


you post is false and really not a true measure of the conversations in the other political threads.

 

[Lefty42o]

I find it amusing that many of the people that are accusing Obama of playing the race card are playing their own race cards.

:lol


ssshhhh!!!!!

Spoiler

they have black friends

 

[APF]

and those people continue coming back and posting?

once again.. most of the people in these threads have never posted in those other threads.. so they cant claim being 'run off'

I dono... there's a "chill wind" here when you try and criticize the messiah. One only the very brave would dare face, lest they suffer grave consequences of being attacked in the most vicious ways possible (death wishes, threats of violence, accusations of racism, etc). I don't blame people for staying in the shadows where no one will attempt them harm.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Wow, and *I* get accused of parsing words too strictly.

??? was the sentence structure to difficult to understand? i understand that those words may easily be misunderstood by those that have issues grasping the nuances of the english language.. or easily twisted and taken advantage of.. but english isnt even my native language, and i thought the message was quite clear.

 

[quest]

or maybe the people posting negative stuff is not posting all the info. or posting 1 poll and ignoring all the others. and a rebuttal is not some "defense force" let alone berate someone.


you post is false and really not a true measure of the conversations in the other political threads.

Yes it is here is how a normal political thread goes.

5 pages of worshipping obama

Someone comes in who does not drink the Obama coolaid.

Defense force assembles and attacks poster

Poster eventually gives up fighting the cult of Obama.

Repeat till end of thread.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

What the fuck my post was telling innotech how stupid he is for saying that hatred toward blacks or racism is dead. How the fuck you got that out of it I may never know.

Whoops, I had to go back a few pages to get the context of the discussion. I was off base with my comments.

I apologize for my tone and I hope you accept that I made a mistake in my commentary.

 

[polyh3dron]

where did any one use race as an excuse?

Well, Geraldine Ferraro did.

 

[Amir0x]

The Obama cum guzzlers are on another realm of damage control.

Obama from a couple of days ago when this story finally became an issue:

Senator Obama today:

Difficulty with English is a problem that can be fixed. Just takes schooling.

The comments that are at the center of THIS CONTROVERSY, are not the same as the the ones Obama has, over the years, heard while in attendance.

On that note, this is the entire problem with America. There is no goddamn fucking common sense. You would believe that just because Wright has said comments that are obviously fucked up, that Obama must somehow accept them as truth.

Obama said it best. Wright's fault was not bringing up racism in America. His fault was in using this racism to stereotype entire groups of people, creating caricatures of real people. People on both sides of the fence who are angry and disenfranchised for various legitimate reasons. Wright's speech is wrong because it does NOT acknowledge the strides we have made, and it is in this that Obama differs from his mentor. It is FUCKING DEGREES. Is America this goddamn retarded, this fucking incapable of the most simple discerning techniques? If you cannot perceive the epic differences between agreeing with a man on SOME things, and agreeing with him on ALL things ... then it's likely you need to be stripped of your right to vote, and tossed from this country.

This is the problem with this whole media cycle. It demonizes based on soundbites, it tears down based on flavor of the minute. It removes any element of nuance, and forces people to look at REAL HUMAN BEINGS through lenses of controversy and irrelevance. It has no barring on the realities of why people like WRIGHT reverberate so heavily in the African-American community, and why it is just as bad to blame all white people for the injustices against you. If this simple fucking premise cannot be grasped by America at large (and judging by all the sweepingly ignorant post, it IS) then we deserve George W. Bush. We deserve the inequities of our people and the damage of our ignorance.

Until then, we will always come back to this and slam up against this wall. Because you, my friend, are incapable of grasping concepts that illuminate rather than darken.

If Obama has any fault (and he does), it's that he did not approach Wright about the controversial things he HAS heard him say in the past. But in this simple error, you see a picture of a human being who makes mistakes. Obama himself says he is an imperfect candidate, and always will be.

 

[Lefty42o]

I dono... there's a "chill wind" here when you try and criticize the messiah. One only the very brave would dare face, lest they suffer grave consequences of being attacked in the most vicious ways possible (death wishes, threats of violence, accusations of racism, etc). I don't blame people for staying in the shadows where no one will attempt them harm.

so being coy and calling him messiah is not troll baiting? let alone as you told me derailing the thread?


please your a troll and enjoy messing with people.

next what the fuck are you talking about? death threats, violence? dude what gaf you on?

 

[Kusagari]

All this proves is that Obama has heard him say inflamatory things not that he lied about hearing those two speeches the media keeps playing. try again.




not sure why this is ammo theres a lot of truth in this.

I don't think anyone besides Fox News is hating on that 911 quote. You forgot to mention the more important part where he also blamed 911 on Jews.

 

[Jonm1010]

Whoops, I had to go back a few pages to get the context of the discussion. I was off base with my comments.

I apologize for my tone and I hope you accept that I made a mistake in my commentary.

:lol no problem I was just genuinelly befuddled how you got that out of what I posted, I kept rereading it trying to see if maybe I typed something wrong.

 

[Lefty42o]

Well, Geraldine Ferraro did.

he was talking bout obama's speech

 

[APF]

??? was the sentence structure to difficult to understand? i understand that those words may easily be misunderstood by those that have issues grasping the nuances of the english language.. or easily twisted and taken advantage of.. but english isnt even my native language, and i thought the message was quite clear.

No, your strict and lawyerly interpretation makes sense to me--but I think for many people it's not "straight-talk" enough to say, "oh yeah of course I heard him say OTHER things like that, but not that specific line! GOTCHA!!!!"


Lefty42o: I'm on this gaf.

 

[Innotech]

I dono... there's a "chill wind" here when you try and criticize the messiah. One only the very brave would dare face, lest they suffer grave consequences of being attacked in the most vicious ways possible (death wishes, threats of violence, accusations of racism, etc). I don't blame people for staying in the shadows where no one will attempt them harm.

this is the internet. and this forum isnt even that bad as far as threats go. I havent even been threatened in this thread for thinking that Obama is a shitty person. Speaking of which, so are McCain and Hillary. Its the year of shitty presidential nominees.

 

[Loudninja]

By the way, anyone heard from McCain? :lol

 

[Jonm1010]

Difficulty with English is a problem that can be fixed. Just takes schooling.

The comments that are at the center of THIS CONTROVERSY, are not the same as the the ones Obama has, over the years, heard while in attendance.

On that note, this is the entire problem with America. There is no goddamn fucking common sense. You would believe that just because Wright has said comments that are obviously fucked up, that Obama must somehow accept them as truth.

Obama said it best. Wright's fault was not bringing up racism in America. His fault was in using this racism to stereotype entire groups of people, creating caricatures of real people. People on both sides of the fence who are angry and disenfranchised for various legitimate reasons. Wright's speech is wrong because it does NOT acknowledge the strides we have made, and it is in this that Obama differs from his mentor. It is FUCKING DEGREES. Is America this goddamn retarded, this fucking incapable of the most simple discerning techniques? If you cannot perceive the epic differences between agreeing with a man on SOME things, and agreeing with him on ALL things ... then it's likely you need to be stripped of your right to vote, and tossed from this country.

This is the problem with this whole media cycle. It demonizes based on soundbites, it tears down based on flavor of the minute. It removes any element of nuance, and forces people to look at REAL HUMAN BEINGS through lenses of controversy and irrelevance. It has no barring on the realities of why people like WRIGHT reverberate so heavily in the African-American community, and why it is just as bad to blame all white people for the injustices against you. If this simple fucking premise cannot be grasped by America at large (and judging by all the sweepingly ignorant post, it IS) then we deserve George W. Bush. We deserve the inequities of our people and the damage of our ignorance.

Until then, we will always come back to this and slam up against this wall. Because you, my friend, are incapable of grasping concepts that illuminate rather than darken

Well said

 

[polyh3dron]

As far as that "damning" video of Jeremiah Wright goes, he said stuff that was pretty much true. The country is pretty much run by rich white men. Good ol' Dubya proved that with all the Halliburton and Enron bullshit. The government WAS instrumental in putting crack cocaine in the inner city areas in the 80s. Wright may have overused his superlatives, but he was speaking the truth. I don't see why Obama even had to address this, but with the speech he delivered, I'm glad he did. That was an awesome, inspiring speech.

 

[soul creator]

By the way, anyone heard from McCain? :lol

McCain loves everyone, as evidenced by the fact that everyone is his friend