Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here.

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff member
May 30, 2004
20,252
4,314
1,450
#1
In October of 2017, NeoGAF was enveloped in drama, and while we were being DDoSed for a couple days there, some people decided to make another forum and NeoGAF was bombarded with advertisements and account suicides promoting ResetEra as the "successor" to NeoGAF. I had been trapped in self-loathing since March of that year and pretty much just fell apart seeing my community turn against me and implode from within like that. It's complicated. My bad. Anyway, we didn't give up on this place, and NeoGAF isn't going anywhere, Reset isn't going anywhere either, and there's a lot of community overlap between the two, a regular influx of folks coming from there to here lately, etc.

We understand you may want to discuss some goings-on over there or your history with them after changing home bases. I have no interest in NeoGAF being bogged down with Reset talk around our forum, and our regulars want to move on as well. So, we're asking that if you'd like to discuss anything related to Reset, or some other community that you feel compelled to discuss, that you do so in this thread exclusively.

NeoGAF's rules still apply here. Do not obsess, stalk, shame, etc. off-site admins/mods/users. Don't post people's photos or doxx them. Don't scheme against people or other sites. Don't coordinate attacks. You will be banned, and then where are you gonna go, right?

My recommendation: it's a big internet. If some other website doesn't suit you, let it go and try something else. If NeoGAF does suit you, well, you're here already, right? Bring your friends and stay a while. If you just got banned from somewhere else and want to talk with other people who may have shared a similar fate, or if you must vent a little frustration, you can use this thread. Keep it civil and remember how silly you look.
 
Feb 20, 2018
507
268
270
#2
User reply-banned from thread. Stay on-topic and within the scope of discussion outlined in the OP. Thanks.
*asks community members about the idea of setting up a ResetEra thread*
*gets some concerns from some users about such a thread existing*
*ignores any sort of feedback and makes the thread anyway*
 

PKM

Member
Oct 11, 2017
609
608
265
#6
For shits and giggles the weaponized autist over at KiwiFarms have made a "Ban Bot" so to say.
It aggregates the band (think warnings also) via Reeeeeset.

https://resetera.github.io

They are working on extension just to gather a certain mods crazy red postings lol

It's like the Gulag Archipelago over there lol
 
Last edited:
Likes: Bryank75

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Mar 5, 2009
5,222
1,407
900
#7
35 bans/warnings today and the day is only half way over.

A lot of the reasoning is entertaining to read...
Reason: User Banned (3 Days): Downplaying the consequences of colonialism

And this is a one day ban:
Reason: User Banned (1 Day): advocating murder
 
Last edited:
Aug 19, 2017
15
6
110
#9
reset is what gaf was pre-meltdown, in concentrated form. that is not a compliment. too many moderators that all enjoy the feeling of power, leads to over moderation and at times, straight up off the rails mods doing whatever they want. the sanctioning that has to happen with other mods, that they talked so much about, i doubt is more than a quick link in discord to say "y/n?".

credit to them for banning some of the gaf trolls though, like lime that seemed to live on forever here. but despite of this, it's overall a terrible place run by lunatics.
 
Jan 20, 2018
1,068
554
285
Pittsburgh
#10
35 bans/warnings today and the day is only half way over.

A lot of the reasoning is entertaining to read...
Reason: User Banned (3 Days): Downplaying the consequences of colonialism

And this is a one day ban:
Reason: User Banned (1 Day): advocating murder
One of the craziest thing I have seen was I was banned a month because I said I do not see definitive proof that Trump is a racist in a topic about someone who said he won't hang out with his father in public because he wears a godfather "The Don" shirt.

And another user who advocated violence against Republicans and their families so they finally "get it". Was given a 3 day ban.

*Shrug*
 
Last edited:
Likes: Bryank75

PKM

Member
Oct 11, 2017
609
608
265
#11
I caught my perma from Reee because a user couldnt get it up to bang his GF (seemed like anxiety issues)

I told him get some Viagra, even from India.

Everyone was telling him to go down on her, mutual masturbation, use toys etc..

I told him "Dude, if she wanted toys, be only gone down on etc.. she would be a lesbian. So, either you figure out a way to get your dick hard (boner pills) or shes gonna find some one else to lay the pipe eventually"

Got a perma for being sexist lol
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Mar 5, 2009
5,222
1,407
900
#12
One of the craziest thing I have seen was I was banned a month because I said I do not see definitive proof that Trump is a racist in a topic about someone who said he won't hang out with his father in public because he wears a godfather "The Don" shirt.

And another user who advocated violence against Republicans and their families so they finally "get it". Was given a 3 day ban.

*Shrug*
I posted in a thread the other day about someone noticing Tomi Lahren in a restaurant eating with her family then walking up to her, throwing a glass of water on her and calling her a bitch. Im not a fan of hers myself, but I said I think harrassing someone in public you don't agree with politically like that is wrong. I didn't get banned, but the next time I logged in I had 20+ alerts saying harassing her in public like that is fine and that I was a horrible person for disagreeing. So crazy to see hundreds of people all agreeing that harassing someone like that is perfectly fine.
 
Jul 25, 2013
5,260
220
390
England
#13
For shits and giggles the weaponized autist over at KiwiFarms have made a "Ban Bot" so to say.
It aggregates the band (think warnings also) via Reeeeeset.

https://resetera.github.io

They are working on extension just to gather a certain mods crazy red postings lol

It's like the Gulag Archipelago over there lol
Funny you mention kiwifarms.

This place was starting to look like their boards early on with all the resetera threads.

Well, they have a reset thread. Now GAF does too.

Don't know if that place should be promoted though, given that they make a habit of doxxing people they don't like amongst other things I probably don't want to know about.
 
May 17, 2010
550
174
640
#14
I caught my perma from Reee because a user couldnt get it up to bang his GF (seemed like anxiety issues)

I told him get some Viagra, even from India.

Everyone was telling him to go down on her, mutual masturbation, use toys etc..

I told him "Dude, if she wanted toys, be only gone down on etc.. she would be a lesbian. So, either you figure out a way to get your dick hard (boner pills) or shes gonna find some one else to lay the pipe eventually"

Got a perma for being sexist lol
First of all, 😂😂😂 at this ridiculous shit.

Second, I wonder how they're handling the TotalBiscuit news. I'm assuming the worst.
 
Feb 3, 2018
529
459
220
#16
Wrong.

It’s become more and more clear that functionally the deplorables are the same as any Alt-right neonazis.

The more interesting question would be why does someone who is willing to do deplorable things like support a pedophile like Roy Moore, just to hate minorities and LGBTQ, deserve to have their human rights acknowledged?

I can understand that with the shitstorm that was 2016 there were some people that genuinely did not want to support the fascism when they voted for Trump. Some were just tricked by all the antiHillary propaganda. Some were just layman voters who knew next to nothing about politics and were told by their deplorable friends to vote for Trump.

But Trump SUPPORTERS?!? Fuck them. I had a Trump supporter for a former boss. He was the kind of scumbag that would listen to talk radio and look for any reason to defend anything about Trump. At first it was me just debating him but by month 12 of arguing with him I literally told him that I was glad his wife died and that if he’s willing to use excuses like “locker room talk” then he, as I explicitly used the words, “deserve to be slaughtered”. I still don’t regret those words because frankly a guy like that doesn’t deserve to be allowed to vote.

Trump SUPPORTERS are subhuman scum that don’t give a shit about anything except hating the groups they hate. They don’t care about fiscal policy. They don’t care about religious morality. They just care about feeding their hatred and enacting harm on the groups they hate by ANY means they can. In that sense yes they are fucking fascists and they deserve to be stomped out just like any other fascists.

I see no reason why these people should have their humanity respected when they have shown time and time again that they have zero respect for the humanity of others. And I don’t just mean during the age of Trump. Even pre-Trump they showed they had no respect for the humanity of others. Whether it be their support of Rush Limbaugh slut shaming Sandra Fluke, or their telling rape victims that they should consider pregnancy a gift, or their accusations of Trayvon Martin as a drug using thug and claiming that he deserved to be shot, or their demand that LGBTQ people be treated like alcoholics, or their claim that Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to have a site for prayer anywhere considered too “close” to ground zero, or their baseless claims that Obama was not a real American.

And let’s not forget that the vast majority of terrorist attacks happening in America are being committed by Trump supporters. Because of course these subhuman scum would be willing to start committing terrorist attacks. Since everyone else just tries to either kindly ask them to stop being mean, or outright supports the deplorable things they say, it was inevitable that they would decide they could get away with terrorism.

Cutting off Trump supporters from your life is not enough.
--


a new era, indeed
 
Last edited:
Jan 15, 2013
1,336
1,197
370
#19
I got permabanned from Resetera in like.... five posts, none of which was "offensive." One of the complaints against me was guns in my avatar
 
Last edited:
Jun 22, 2014
7,606
973
390
#20
The whole creation of that place was such a fucking shitshow and you'd think that would get the mods to show some leniency given their shaky moral ground but nope they were power tripping a day in.

First of all, 😂😂😂 at this ridiculous shit.

Second, I wonder how they're handling the TotalBiscuit news. I'm assuming the worst.
I honestly don't have the guts to check after witnessing the full horror by those loonies on Twitter.
 
Aug 31, 2015
2,604
283
300
#21
35 bans/warnings today and the day is only half way over.

A lot of the reasoning is entertaining to read...
Reason: User Banned (3 Days): Downplaying the consequences of colonialism

And this is a one day ban:
Reason: User Banned (1 Day): advocating murder
I love how the ban messages seem like a competition between mods to see who can sound the most like a sovereign citizen trying to argue their way out of a traffic stop.
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Mar 5, 2009
5,222
1,407
900
#22
The whole creation of that place was such a fucking shitshow and you'd think that would get the mods to show some leniency given their shaky moral ground but nope they were power tripping a day in.



I honestly don't have the guts to check after witnessing the full horror by those loonies on Twitter.
The TotalBiscuit thread was locked after awhile due to them having to constantly ban people.
 
Aug 19, 2017
15
6
110
#23
The TotalBiscuit thread was locked after awhile due to them having to constantly ban people.
It probably wasn't nice for them, to see one of their own members writing things such as this on twitter https://archive.li/UuEJw

If you called him out, you of course got a ban for insulting a fellow member of the site lmao. "HE WAS HARSH ON THE GRAPHICS AND THE TRASH GAMES I WORKED ON :(((("
 
Jan 20, 2018
1,068
554
285
Pittsburgh
#27
Eh, the "Disowning your friends and family because of-" thread tends to show up every other quarter of the year. I remember them here too before the split.

I never fully understand them though.
Those threads or how about the 500 fuck the cops replies in the cop thread


Or... The wishing death on Melania during her kidney operation because she is a "racist".
 
Jan 9, 2018
1,356
1,446
245
#29
I really can't read anything on that site. Almost every single post I see is people so bitter and angry about the most minuscule irrelevant shit. I don't think I'll ever be using my account. Physically pains me to read anything on there.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff member
May 30, 2004
20,252
4,314
1,450
#30
I caught my perma from Reee because a user couldnt get it up to bang his GF (seemed like anxiety issues)

I told him get some Viagra, even from India.

Everyone was telling him to go down on her, mutual masturbation, use toys etc..

I told him "Dude, if she wanted toys, be only gone down on etc.. she would be a lesbian. So, either you figure out a way to get your dick hard (boner pills) or shes gonna find some one else to lay the pipe eventually"

Got a perma for being sexist lol
Hahaha. Straight girls like dicks, news at 11.
 

JDB

Banned
Dec 12, 2015
3,825
211
0
#31
As much as I think having one concentrated spot for this stuff so that it doesn't spill into OT is a good thing, it gives me real NeoFAG subreddit/voat vibes. Bit icky.
 
Nov 30, 2012
11,849
592
690
#32
I don't get why so many people want to be there and post there. Is it some kind on masochism? Stockholm syndrome? AFAIK, it's way worse than old GAF at it's worst. Do people like to test how long they can be ban free? Test their subtlety and posting skills and how they can sneak "offensive" opinions? I don't get it.
 

JDB

Banned
Dec 12, 2015
3,825
211
0
#33
I don't get why so many people want to be there and post there. Is it some kind on masochism? Stockholm syndrome? AFAIK, it's way worse than old GAF at it's worst. Do people like to test how long they can be ban free? Test their subtlety and posting skills and how they can sneak "offensive" opinions? I don't get it.
I imagine a lot of people moved over there since almost every community OT over here is dead. I doubt a majority even looks at the Off-Topic side of the website.
 
Last edited:
Jan 14, 2018
1,242
1,003
250
Norway
#34
As much as I think having one concentrated spot for this stuff so that it doesn't spill into OT is a good thing, it gives me real NeoFAG subreddit/voat vibes. Bit icky.
I get that as well, but it really might be the best solution we have. It also allows for a broader discussion of other places as well. Like discussing the sad 20 people of neofag being weirdly obsessed about EviLore. It's really easy for most people to talk shit in their anonymity and even if they get called out, it has little effect on their real life. It's just fascinating the hate that many places have for Tyler, as if he killed their dog by being the owner of an internet forum that perhaps slighted them. I feel like this thread can be much better than those places, by not only speaking about negatives, but discussing other communities in a more tempered manner. That way it's by no means close to neofag obsessing about Resetera and NeoGAF and "the jews" (unlike /pol/, which has clear signs of larping by many people, voat doesn't, making it really disturbing).
The fact that this thread isn't so long and doesn't have that many disturbing posts, outside of @SavingAshley's ridiculous post, is a good sign. I think pretending that Resetera doesn't exist is also a bit childish and outside of the crazy moderation and the tendency to gang up on people by a minority of people there, that Resetera has a ton of good people who just want to discuss something. As long as this thread allows for discussion of these things, instead of just being reactive and outraged and going "see what Resetera" did, then it should be working pretty well. That and being able to discuss more than one community.

I have been annoyed at the ridiculous drive-by posters coming here and I hope it's not Resetera posters, but rather the other usual suspects trying to troll. While there is merits discussing parts of the contributions on this forum, like the ridiculous "A shooting you likely will not see on CNN" thread, drive-by posting as if this place somehow is an alt-right haven, is just ridiculous and makes yourself seem fanatical. If there's a problem with GAF currently, it's the reactive, little thought out topics. There are some reactive good ones, like the border patrol one, which outside its thread title, allows for good discussion, even though it's a sensitive topic.

I guess a big problem with GAF right now is that a lot of people are wary on creating new topics and low-effort topics get created instead. I have myself numerous threads I've considered making, but I like to put the work into them and that makes it easier to just put it off, either due to work or other things. Some of the topics I've considered covering has been witch hunts, the concept of "freedom to roam" and hiking, healthcare systems around the world, history as a political tool, feminism in a historical perspective (focus on racism and missionaries), persecution history, genealogical research, a larger view of the concept of "the other" and various historical subjects in my field. I might just have to choose one and work on it, otherwise it'll never go anywhere.
 
Feb 3, 2018
2,686
2,582
360
32
USA
#35
Saw a thread about a former police officer deciding not to conceal carry anymore.

He is a hero on Era now.

Yet any topic people make about police is full of people saying fuck all police. They are ALL bad. They are racist bigots with no other option.

Oh except when the said cop is 'disarming'. Then they all love cops.

The irony and cherry picking that they do is so twisted it's a wonder people have the patience to post on that site.
 
Jan 14, 2018
1,242
1,003
250
Norway
#36
Saw a thread about a former police officer deciding not to conceal carry anymore.

He is a hero on Era now.

Yet any topic people make about police is full of people saying fuck all police. They are ALL bad. They are racist bigots with no other option.

Oh except when the said cop is 'disarming'. Then they all love cops.

The irony and cherry picking that they do is so twisted it's a wonder people have the patience to post on that site.

Well, it's a good topic though, as the former officer realizes that he might be a risk due to his memory problems, so it is indeed something to be admired. I imagine not all the resetera posters view it from an anti-gun position either, but from a good example of someone responsibly carrying and knowing when to stop.
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Mar 5, 2009
5,222
1,407
900
#37
I don't get why so many people want to be there and post there. Is it some kind on masochism? Stockholm syndrome? AFAIK, it's way worse than old GAF at it's worst. Do people like to test how long they can be ban free? Test their subtlety and posting skills and how they can sneak "offensive" opinions? I don't get it.
ERA promised an open and friendly environment when it first came up. That lasted about a week. I still have an account over there for two community threads I like, but I am not checking things too often anymore. I tried engaging in a few interesting threads in Etcera, but you always get shouted down by the same large group of very angry posters. It's always the same group of posters foaming from the mouth about racism/sexism/Trump/etc. constantly. I came back here a few months ago when I saw Evilore started encouraging open conversation. A lot of the people are still on Era because the traffic volume is high there, the community threads moved there and/or they enjoy the echo chamber.
 
Likes: Humdinger

Musky_Cheese

Community Liaison
Oct 23, 2016
3,008
3,287
505
#39
I imagine a lot of people moved over there since almost every community OT over here is dead. I doubt a majority even looks at the Off-Topic side of the website.


But wouldn't the reason be it's dead because people left? I've heard a few explanations like this including "they thought all their work would be lost/gone so they left". Still doesn't make sense. "I feared I was gonna die today, so I shot myself in the head"...

Now I'm not saying they didn't think that way. Old Gaf's group think never really had too much smarts. Just saying the thinking wasn't anything to be proud of if I were them.
 
Likes: ar0s

JDB

Banned
Dec 12, 2015
3,825
211
0
#40


But wouldn't the reason be it's dead because people left? I've heard a few explanations like this including "they thought all their work would be lost/gone so they left". Still doesn't make sense. "I feared I was gonna die today, so I shot myself in the head"...

Now I'm not saying they didn't think that way. Old Gaf's group think never really had too much smarts. Just saying the thinking wasn't anything to be proud of if I were them.
It was pretty obvious early on that a lot of people switched over to ERA. Was ERA up and running before GAF got back up again? I can't remember. For people who focus mainly on the gaming/community side it's a pretty easy choice, go with where majority of the users are. Even if you don't care about the entire Evilore ordeal it's not crazy to switch over.
 

Musky_Cheese

Community Liaison
Oct 23, 2016
3,008
3,287
505
#41
It was pretty obvious early on that a lot of people switched over to ERA. Was ERA up and running before GAF got back up again? I can't remember. For people who focus mainly on the gaming/community side it's a pretty easy choice, go with where majority of the users are. Even if you don't care about the entire Evilore ordeal it's not crazy to switch over.
Umm. So everyone left because everyone had left?
 
Jan 14, 2018
1,242
1,003
250
Norway
#42
Umm. So everyone left because everyone had left?
Everyone left because the site was down, leaving people organized on Discords, the fear of Off-Topic becoming completely removed when it came back up, etc. It was too uncertain for them and NeoGAF was proclaimed as dead. There was also plannings for a new side, making everyone really positive about a new site for the community, that was open and fair in moderation.

Edit:
For the various people GAF is just an outlet for their hobby, for their lacking compatriots in real life to discuss things with or a place for information. If the community moved, of course they would follow, with little allegiance to the brand/site NeoGAF. And that's understandable. You also have those who've really staked their identity on their online persona or their interpersonal relations on it, who obviously would move as well, in fear of losing their connections and being alone.

The exodus was understandable in the context, with EviLore being depressed, overwhelmed and too reactive during most of it. With mods and admins going haywire, people spamming and more, it was obvious that the system could easily be toppled. There's no need to have a harsh attitude to those who left, they just saw the better option and they don't really owe NeoGAF anything. That doesn't mean it's not sad and that there wasn't a better option. Everything was outrage and accusing EviLore for things there weren't grounds for.
 
Last edited:

Musky_Cheese

Community Liaison
Oct 23, 2016
3,008
3,287
505
#44
Everyone left because the site was down, leaving people organized on Discords, the fear of Off-Topic becoming completely removed when it came back up, etc. It was too uncertain for them and NeoGAF was proclaimed as dead. There was also plannings for a new side, making everyone really positive about a new site for the community, that was open and fair in moderation.
I totally understand the history. @JDB said they left because the community OT’s was dead. Just pointing out that they had to leave for them to be dead.
 
Jan 14, 2018
1,242
1,003
250
Norway
#45
I totally understand the history. @JDB said they left because the community OT’s was dead. Just pointing out that they had to leave for them to be dead.
Well, EviLore was at that point thinking of shutting down OT, because he was overwhelmed. So, of course, they left because "OTs" were risking being dead. And they functionally were for some time.
 

Musky_Cheese

Community Liaison
Oct 23, 2016
3,008
3,287
505
#46
Well, EviLore was at that point thinking of shutting down OT, because he was overwhelmed. So, of course, they left because "OTs" were risking being dead. And they functionally were for some time.
Community ot’s are community ot’s for both gaming and off topic. Indeed I remember Evilore saying he was thinking about getting rid of Off Topic.

If @JDB meant only Off topic then ok. But the community ot’s we’re dead because people left. Not dead and then people left.
 

cyclone88

Neo Member
Feb 16, 2018
14
9
90
#47
I totally understand the history. @JDB said they left because the community OT’s was dead. Just pointing out that they had to leave for them to be dead.
Can you blame them? The vocal minority that GAF is now making fun of where also the ones that tend to make much of the content that GAF threads were known for. And the rank-and-file silent majority go to where the content is still being made. Unless you're implying that they should have stuck around when Evilore nuked the OT and waited for weeks before the OT was finally restored.
 
Mar 12, 2014
2,971
1,499
355
#48
Everyone left because the site was down, leaving people organized on Discords, the fear of Off-Topic becoming completely removed when it came back up, etc. It was too uncertain for them and NeoGAF was proclaimed as dead. There was also plannings for a new side, making everyone really positive about a new site for the community, that was open and fair in moderation.

Edit:
For the various people GAF is just an outlet for their hobby, for their lacking compatriots in real life to discuss things with or a place for information. If the community moved, of course they would follow, with little allegiance to the brand/site NeoGAF. And that's understandable. You also have those who've really staked their identity on their online persona or their interpersonal relations on it, who obviously would move as well, in fear of losing their connections and being alone.

The exodus was understandable in the context, with EviLore being depressed, overwhelmed and too reactive during most of it. With mods and admins going haywire, people spamming and more, it was obvious that the system could easily be toppled. There's no need to have a harsh attitude to those who left, they just saw the better option and they don't really owe NeoGAF anything. That doesn't mean it's not sad and that there wasn't a better option. Everything was outrage and accusing EviLore for things there weren't grounds for.
Absolutely no reason to harbor grudges against people just for leaving. And many will be back in time. With two viable options for a one stop shop to shoot the shit about video games and current affairs, one being a more active board with authoritarian moderation that bans wrong think, and the other being a historical hang out with new stripes that fosters debate, at least the good posters will be back soon enough. You can only get or see so many warnings / bans for wrong think before the grass on the other side looks greener again.
 

Musky_Cheese

Community Liaison
Oct 23, 2016
3,008
3,287
505
#50
Can you blame them? The vocal minority that GAF is now making fun of where also the ones that tend to make much of the content that GAF threads were known for. And the rank-and-file silent majority go to where the content is still being made. Unless you're implying that they should have stuck around when Evilore nuked the OT and waited for weeks before the OT was finally restored.
No sir or ma’ma I was not blaming or judging anyone. Just simply pointing out that people left and OT’s died. Refuting the claim that OT’s died and so everyone left.