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Corrik

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I should be on your Trump supporting list, btw. I am pretty lock in step with his ideas. Just wish we had a better Republican candidate to push his ideas as they stand.
 

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-official-reveal-trailer-ea-respawn-november-15-2019-ps4-xb1-pc-read-staff-post.111361/page-28#post-19816096 said:
User Banned (Duration Pending): Denying the existence of systemic prejudice; account still in junior phase

This is factually incorrect. Racism is discrimination based on skin color. The idea that it is systematic pretends that no poc can be rasicist or discriminatory in any way. Again wrong. Sexism is based on gender. So you absolutely can be discriminated against for being make. Sorry to break it to you.
This one got banned because he refused to accept the additional business logic of the "Era racism".
He's not wrong though, that's what racism is.
 
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I should be on your Trump supporting list, btw. I am pretty lock in step with his ideas. Just wish we had a better Republican candidate to push his ideas as they stand.
The gimmick was that I just listed one per letter. Cryptoadam was more in my mind in terms of Trump, so I listed him. Which, in this case, is also a case of different debate cultures, while you are pretty calm in my memories, Cryptoadam is pretty "loud", which lets me think of him first.
I think Trump is a joke but for the most part I like him and what he does, should I be on the list?
There's already Super Mario, so no. Maybe if he was just named Mario? It was just to illustrate that it is easy to list a lot of Trump supporters by limiting to one per letter and only using memory and very recent threads, i.e. there are tons of Trump supporters on this site, which made the claim that one suspects someone must "hide" them extra strange for me.
 
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DAMN...

Black dude Shy...HATES White Women lol

Less then 24 hours and has to show his hate for white feminist 6 or more times lol


 
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Is Yoshi letting out his anger of era ban here?
That was in July... Even if I was angry about that, there would only be five potential people I could be angry at: Excelsiorlef, that stalker guy (McDoogle?), the anonymous mod who banned me, the anonymous admin who made it permanent or myself. Chances are none of those are on the list I posted (100% sure on excelsiorlef, stalker guy and myself), so I am pretty confident in saying that I hold no grudge to anyone on the list in terms of being banned on Resetera.
 

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That was in July... Even if I was angry about that, there would only be five potential people I could be angry at: Excelsiorlef, that stalker guy (McDoogle?), the anonymous mod who banned me, the anonymous admin who made it permanent or myself. Chances are none of those are on the list I posted (100% sure on excelsiorlef, stalker guy and myself), so I am pretty confident in saying that I hold no grudge to anyone on the list in terms of being banned on Resetera.
Why are you fighting people here then mate?
 

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I have considered that Yoshi and NobodyImportant have been using this thread solely as an audition for trying to show why they should be unbanned and re-allowed back onto ERA.

We, of course, have seen that play out a couple of times already with people getting banned there and solely coming here to vent and ask for info to contact their admins to ask for another chance.

However, at this length, I think the ship has sailed for these two.
 
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This is from a Tiger Woods thread where someone called him a coon. They were originally going to give the user only a warning but after other users cried a moderator posted this.

So is this how "reclaimed language" works? It's okay to use racial slurs as long as it's someone they don't agree with?
 

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This is from a Tiger Woods thread where someone called him a coon. They were originally going to give the user only a warning but after other users cried a moderator posted this.

So is this how "reclaimed language" works? It's okay to use racial slurs as long as it's someone they don't agree with?
It’s how white people think it works for sure.
 

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I have considered that Yoshi and NobodyImportant have been using this thread solely as an audition for trying to show why they should be unbanned and re-allowed back onto ERA.

We, of course, have seen that play out a couple of times already with people getting banned there and solely coming here to vent and ask for info to contact their admins to ask for another chance.

However, at this length, I think the ship has sailed for these two.
NI isn’t banned there as far as I’m aware. Battered Yoshi is hella banned tho
 

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Why are you fighting people here then mate?
I'm not here to fight people. It happens at times, especially when people start bullying others (and, lately, especially @Nobody_Important ), but it is not my intent to come here to pick fights. And, again, my previous posting regarding Trump supporters was not an aggressive act anyway.
I have considered that Yoshi and NobodyImportant have been using this thread solely as an audition for trying to show why they should be unbanned and re-allowed back onto ERA.

We, of course, have seen that play out a couple of times already with people getting banned there and solely coming here to vent and ask for info to contact their admins to ask for another chance.

However, at this length, I think the ship has sailed for these two.
At least with Nobody, that does not make any sense, because he is not permed at Resetera, but has a live account (and uses a different user name anyway). For me, let's just say, I consider it a pretty stupid idea to post here to get a Resetera account unbanned. Resetera mods have enough to do on their own site and will certainly not evaluate postings here for the purpose of overturning permanent bans reviewed by administration. Additionally, if I were here solely to ask for contact details for Resetera administration to get unbanned, how come I have probably amassed hundreds, if not north of a thousand postings since I was banned at Resetera?
 
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I have considered that Yoshi and NobodyImportant have been using this thread solely as an audition for trying to show why they should be unbanned and re-allowed back onto ERA.

We, of course, have seen that play out a couple of times already with people getting banned there and solely coming here to vent and ask for info to contact their admins to ask for another chance.

However, at this length, I think the ship has sailed for these two.
Unbanned? I am not banned from Era. I have only ever been banned once and that was only for 2 or 3 days if I remember right.


I just use Gaf for Politics and Era for Gaming.
 

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So I read about this horrific attack on a transgender person: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6921985/Horrifying-video-shows-transgender-woman-brutally-attacked-mob-broad-daylight.html
I'll be curious to see what the ERA thread will look like if there is one since the attackers are black. From what I've gathered black seems to be above transgender in their identity politics totem pole.
Maybe no one will talk shit about that since this will bypass hypocrisy validation.
 
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Maybe no one will talk shit about that since this will bypass hypocrisy validation.
That's what I'm thinking. It's probably why there's no thread on it. I've seen so many threads on there about crimes where they went on for pages and pages, but then if the perpetrator(s) turned out to be black it suddenly became *crickets*.

When you actually have core values, criminal scum is criminal scum no matter their skin color.
 
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If I was bragging then I wouldn't have admitted to being banned before. I was just correcting him. That's not the same thing.
I'm saying that just admitting you aren't banned is enough to make you a nutjob. I got perma-banned for posting this:
I am a member of GamerGate. I am willing to have a discussion about GamerGate, the gaming community, game journalism, white supremacy, harassment, or anything else. I feel like GamerGate has been incorrectly maligned and is the victim of a smear campaign by the very group of journalists it was originally created as a response to. There are a lot of misconceptions that I feel like I could clear up in a discussion. I will respectfully listen and respond, though I will not always agree or see eye to eye on particular subjects. And where we agree, it's possible that I may disagree on the extent to which we agree. But I will guarantee a civil discussion, at least on my end, in which no rules will be broken and all participants are treated with dignity and respect.
I'm not even a member of GamerGate, if that is even a real thing. I wouldn't even be qualified to defend GamerGate without doing more research. I just wanted to make a point that they ban people who disagree with them. Other people were going, "they don't ban you for disagreeing", and I was saying that they abso-fucking-lutely do, here, let me prove it to you by writing the most meek, milquetoast, agreeably disagreeable thing I can think of - and I was banned within SECONDS for "Admitting to be a member of a hate group and openly advocating for it. Persistent downplaying of racism, sexism, homophobia etc."

If people are routinely banned for being reasonable, logic dictates that the people who aren't banned are the explicitly unreasonable.
 

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I'm saying that just admitting you aren't banned is enough to make you a nutjob. I got perma-banned for posting this:


I'm not even a member of GamerGate, if that is even a real thing. I wouldn't even be qualified to defend GamerGate without doing more research. I just wanted to make a point that they ban people who disagree with them. Other people were going, "they don't ban you for disagreeing", and I was saying that they abso-fucking-lutely do, here, let me prove it to you by writing the most meek, milquetoast, agreeably disagreeable thing I can think of - and I was banned within SECONDS for "Admitting to be a member of a hate group and openly advocating for it. Persistent downplaying of racism, sexism, homophobia etc."

If people are routinely banned for being reasonable, logic dictates that the people who aren't banned are the explicitly unreasonable.
So because I am not banned from Era that means I am unreasonable?


Obeying the rules of a forum makes me unreasonable. That's a new one lol
 
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Is there some sort of magical fairy that comes on gaf when I’m asleep that hides all the pro trump posters and hard right mods for when I log in on the morning....Is it some sort of internet game like secret hitler or do they just have an extremely distorted view of things??? It’s very hard to follow

I know there are some thread titles which trigger people but there is actual discussion from both sides of the fence and if I’m being honest I think most people here don’t really care which way you lean but it’s fucking funny watching lefties implode
Yeah, it's a bit strange to hear that this place is some kind of alt-right website just because people are allowed to disagree with each other.

It's the same with the "Gamergate subreddit" KotakuInAction. Sure, some of the posters are a bit suspect and the sub is pretty biased BUT if you showed up there posting stuff that the Resetera stereotype of a Gamergator would post then they'd probably just ban you.

In truth KiA is just people whining about stuff they think is wrong or unfair, sometimes rightfully so, sometimes not, but it's not some crazy unhinged hell-hole of hate, racism and sexism.

I think the counter-argument to this is that the alt-right etc are so subtle and so amazingly deceptive that you don't know what's happening until it's too late. You might think it's just lads saying that The Last Jedi is shit but before you know it you're donning a white hood and burning a cross.

So you might think NeoGAF is actually not pro Trump and not hard right but actually that's how we'll get ya.
 

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So because I am not banned from Era that means I am unreasonable?
Yes. I can't imagine that anybody with an ounce of independent thought and reason would last long on that forum, and you seem to have thrived there.

Obeying the rules of a forum makes me unreasonable. That's a new one lol
I obeyed the rules too. I was banned for what I said, not for breaking rules.
 

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That video is seriously fucked up. Are they really not discussing it there?
Is it even possible to discuss something like that from an "identity politics" perspective?

If it was a bunch of white college bros doing that then they've already got the "talking points" well practiced about how white cis straight males are raised by society and what society teaches them.

Change the demographics involved though and those talking points have to take a back seat and in-fighting is pretty much the logical conclusion.

Where I see a brutal assault that should be condemned in the strongest terms (which it has been) others will just be looking for how this confirms their worldview.

What we see in the video is simply something that shouldn't ever happen to anyone.
There's no "identity politics" content there for people who are ONLY interested in that kind of thing.
 

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Yes. I can't imagine that anybody with an ounce of independent thought and reason would last long on that forum, and you seem to have thrived there.
I think you're mistaken. I cannot comprehend how any GAF member would also be a member of ERA.

Is there some sort of magical fairy that comes on Resetera when I’m asleep that hides all the secret GAF posters and for when I log in on the morning....Is it some sort of internet game like secret feminist or do they just have an extremely distorted view of things??? It’s very hard to follow.

I think @Yoshi should help us out by providing a list off the top of their head.
 

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I think you're mistaken. I cannot comprehend how any GAF member would also be a member of ERA.

Is there some sort of magical fairy that comes on Resetera when I’m asleep that hides all the secret GAF posters and for when I log in on the morning....Is it some sort of internet game like secret feminist or do they just have an extremely distorted view of things??? It’s very hard to follow.

I think @Yoshi should help us out by providing a list off the top of their head.
I know that you are just trolling me, but I for the off chance you are actually interested in how many I recall:
I only know three who are still active there, African King, Nobody_Important and Fantomena. Well, and Cunth, so four I guess.

Many many more were permed though, like Redneckerz, JareBear and myself - I assume none of those would have just stopped posting there because they feel Resetera is a bunch of loonies.
 
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I know that you are just trolling me, but I for the off chance you are actually interested in how many I recall:
I only know three who are still active there, African King, Nobody_Important and Fantomena. Well, and Cunth, so four I guess.

Many many more were permed though, like Redneckerz, JareBear and myself - I assume none of those would have just stopped posting there because they feel Resetera is a bunch of loonies.
I didn’t go over there because I thought they were a bunch of loonies. Does that count?
 
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I'm saying that just admitting you aren't banned is enough to make you a nutjob. I got perma-banned for posting this:


I'm not even a member of GamerGate, if that is even a real thing. I wouldn't even be qualified to defend GamerGate without doing more research. I just wanted to make a point that they ban people who disagree with them. Other people were going, "they don't ban you for disagreeing", and I was saying that they abso-fucking-lutely do, here, let me prove it to you by writing the most meek, milquetoast, agreeably disagreeable thing I can think of - and I was banned within SECONDS for "Admitting to be a member of a hate group and openly advocating for it. Persistent downplaying of racism, sexism, homophobia etc."

If people are routinely banned for being reasonable, logic dictates that the people who aren't banned are the explicitly unreasonable.
Damn. Thanks for the sacrifice.
 

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Damn. Thanks for the sacrifice.
'Tweren't no sacrifice. It be a suicide. I realized that if I couldn't say something even that mild, I wouldn't find the kind of intellectual stimulation I was looking for there... ever. First thing I did when I came to NeoGAF was argue that the Civil War wasn't about racism, and when I somehow emerged without being banned for downplaying racism and supporting the Nazi south, my first thought was, "oh, the discussions I can have here!"... and then I went on a week long shitposting spree, because the town drunk can get away with anything.