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Monta and Al Harrington have been no-shows all series. I don't think we can win with a ****ing 6 man rotation (and Biedrins didn't even get one minute in the 4th quarter). Come on guys.
 
Hey guys.

Talk from TrueHoop re Marion leaving:

TrueHoop said:
Yes, this roster is more settled than almost any in the NBA. All the key players are locked up for quite some time. Kurt Thomas can opt out this summer, sure. James Jones has another year.

But ... Shawn Marion is the worry. A strong candidate for defensive player of the year, and often the Suns' leading scorer, Marion has just one more year season before he can opt out, and the sense is that he's amenable to switching teams if it might mean a chance to show all that he can do.

That's the thing about selfless, ball-sharing teams like the Suns. They don't let players scratch that ego itch, by showing how they can be the man. (Joe Johnson left under similar circumstances.)
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I wouldn't be bothered in the least if he left. He can be a freak of nature when he's on, but to my recollection his bad games where he's clearly not all there mentally and pouting, have been at the center of at least 2/3 of the Suns big losses since he's been on the team. It's probably something that non-fans (and even most fans) can't appreciate but imo when it comes to crunchtime his fragile psyche can be a huge detriment to the time. Of course, the Suns can't just subtract Marion and be the same, but if they get someone decent (or, God forbid, good) to replace him I think they'll be better off for it, at least in the playoffs even though they probably won't be as good of a regular season team. Given the tone of 95% of his interviews, they should just change his nickname to "Mr. Underappreciated." Of course if they actually win the championship this year, that changes the analysis completely and they'll probably pay whatever it takes to keep him but in that case I can also see Marion thinking he's even more underappreciated and pulling a Joe Johnson on us.

As far as this year's playoffs, assuming the Spurs and Suns handle their business, we'll see what happens next round. Dallas beating the Spurs last year showed that they aren't invincible to offensive teams, but SA has almost always had Phoenix's number and if Dallas loses, SA will probably feel that much closer to a championship. That being said, Phoenix's health leads me to feel the Suns can make it a close series; certainly a better one than the one two years ago. I'm torn on Dallas. On the one hand I want them to lose because it means one of the best teams in the league is no longer an obstacle (although I much, much more wanted SA to lose to Denver) but on the other hand I'll be disappointed not to have them in, as Suns-Mavs III would be incredible.
 
methodman said:
Monta and Al Harrington have been no-shows all series. I don't think we can win with a ****ing 6 man rotation (and Biedrins didn't even get one minute in the 4th quarter). Come on guys.
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Biedrins should have been put in the game with 2 mins left. Mavs got too many rebounds at the end of that game...

I was rooting for GS before last night but they blew their chance. I want the Mavs to win now cos if Phx gets by the Spurs, they're the only ones who can stop those arrogant guys...
 
It's probably been mentioned before, but (and I never thought I'd be saying this) but I feel bad for Stephen Jackson. King Kaufman at Salon refers to his technicals as being for "Driving While Being Stephen Jackson." I didn't think what Terry did was that bad (from the TV angle, at least), but there is almost no question Jackson would have been tossed from the game there and the NBA would have been scrutinizing the video for any excuse to suspend him, and it's not like Terry doesn't have his own history (personally, he's by far my least favorite player on the Mavs, who are otherwise a really likable team between Nowitzki, Howard, Diop, etc.).

I understand the Rasheed Wallace Rule, but at times the refs have been really quick with the Ts and ejections here. That's fine in a Knicks-Heat type of series to maintain order and to tone down the ugly to about 99% but this isn't even close to an ugly series and neither team plays ugly or dirty so I see little need for it.
 
Cloudy said:
The game was already over. Refs were just setting the tone for gm 6...
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I'm not arguing whether it was decisive (I think overall it's actually been quite good in this series), just observing that they don't need to treat it like Knicks-Heat, which it appears they've been doing sometimes.
 
AstroLad said:
Hey guys.

Talk from TrueHoop re Marion leaving:



I wouldn't be bothered in the least if he left. He can be a freak of nature when he's on, but to my recollection his bad games where he's clearly not all there mentally and pouting, have been at the center of at least 2/3 of the Suns big losses since he's been on the team. It's probably something that non-fans (and even most fans) can't appreciate but imo when it comes to crunchtime his fragile psyche can be a huge detriment to the time. Of course, the Suns can't just subtract Marion and be the same, but if they get someone decent (or, God forbid, good) to replace him I think they'll be better off for it, at least in the playoffs even though they probably won't be as good of a regular season team. Given the tone of 95% of his interviews, they should just change his nickname to "Mr. Underappreciated." Of course if they actually win the championship this year, that changes the analysis completely and they'll probably pay whatever it takes to keep him but in that case I can also see Marion thinking he's even more underappreciated and pulling a Joe Johnson on us.
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The Suns will miss Marion a lot. Right now they have their 4 big guys in Nash, Marion, Amare, and Barbosa. You take away a few of those pieces and the Suns really don't look that great on offense anymore and without a good defense to hang their hat on they are not going to be that scary anymore. I have to wonder how much longer Barbosa is going to stick around on that team as well.

Not that I think Marion or Barbosa would be as effective on any other team (when you play on a team with that much talent and a good point guard it makes everyone better by default). But other teams are going to be very interested and unless the Suns win a ring this year I could see the big names leaving when they get a chance.

If the Suns want to win they better do it this year. I don't see how they will be able to keep that roster together for much longer without having a New York Knicks type salary (and the corresponding luxury penalty).
 
bionic77 said:
The Suns will miss Marion a lot. Right now they have their 4 big guys in Nash, Marion, Amare, and Barbosa. You take away a few of those pieces and the Suns really don't look that great on offense anymore and without a good defense to hang their hat on they are not going to be that scary anymore. I have to wonder how much longer Barbosa is going to stick around on that team as well.

Not that I think Marion or Barbosa would be as effective on any other team (when you play on a team with that much talent and a good point guard it makes everyone better by default). But other teams are going to be very interested and unless the Suns win a ring this year I could see the big names leaving when they get a chance.

If the Suns want to win they better do it this year. I don't see how they will be able to keep that roster together for much longer without having a New York Knicks type salary (and the corresponding luxury penalty).
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Well the Suns signed Barbosa to a five-year extension beginning in 07-08. Stoudemire is locked up through 09/10, Bell through 09/10, Nash through 08/09 (team option in 09/10), Diaw through 10/11 and they should have three picks in the top 30, so I think their future is looking alright. I really thought they would go downhill after trading away their first round pick last year for CASH, but they haven't, so I have a lot of confidence in their management and coaching to keep winning for at least three more years.
 
(That's the best pic I could find)
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Only way Heat could win that series. :lol

Kak.efes said:
You just know The Frankman is taking a break from his anime and tenticle porn when the NBA playoff thread is inundated with knick references and pictures.
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For the record I never said I watched tentacle porn, you closet freak.
 
Cloudy said:
I was rooting for GS before last night but they blew their chance. I want the Mavs to win now cos if Phx gets by the Spurs, they're the only ones who can stop those arrogant guys...
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:(

Besides, I don't think Dallas can stop the Suns. It's been 3 years, and the Mavs still can't stop the Nash-Amare pick and roll. Spurs are the only ones that can stop it.

I just don't want to see a Rockets-Suns WCF since that would probably end in 4 or 5.
 
AstroLad said:
Well the Suns signed Barbosa to a five-year extension beginning in 07-08. Stoudemire is locked up through 09/10, Bell through 09/10, Nash through 08/09 (team option in 09/10), Diaw through 10/11 and they should have three picks in the top 30, so I think their future is looking alright. I really thought they would go downhill after trading away their first round pick last year for CASH, but they haven't, so I have a lot of confidence in their management and coaching to keep winning for at least three more years.
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Wow that is a bargain for the Suns with Barbosa. Is he meant to replace Nash when his back eventually gives out? Barbosa was the difference maker in most of the Lakers series before game 4 where the entire Suns team seemed to wake up.

Diaw doesn't seem that important anymore with a healthy Stoudamire. Last year he seemed so integral to their success and this year he has been invisible at times.

I have nothing against the Suns, but I really hate Raja Bell. One of the few athletes I really despise and I don't want the Suns to win anything as long as they employ that worthless sack of shit on their team.
 
bionic77 said:
Wow that is a bargain for the Suns with Barbosa. Is he meant to replace Nash when his back eventually gives out? Barbosa was the difference maker in most of the Lakers series before game 4 where the entire Suns team seemed to wake up.

Diaw doesn't seem that important anymore with a healthy Stoudamire. Last year he seemed so integral to their success and this year he has been invisible at times.

I have nothing against the Suns, but I really hate Raja Bell. One of the few athletes I really despise and I don't want the Suns to win anything as long as they employ that worthless sack of shit on their team.
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Yeah they signed Barbosa at the right time. He is supposed to be their PG of the future but even though he's incredible (if it wasn't for him in Game 1 this might be a much different series) I hope he can become a better distributor. I'd prefer him at the 2 but it's not like there's an excess of top-flight distributors in the league to fill Nash's place. I agree on Diaw, he is actually another mercurial player somewhat like Marion--when his confidence gets shaken he just disappears and often becomes a liability. As far as Bell, he fits in well obviously because of his solid D and ability to shoot the 3, but I'd rather have him as a sixth man than a starter.
 
Say it with me now...

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R
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127 out of a possible 128 first place votes. Guess who the idiot was that voted for Andrea?

Toronto's play-by-play announcer Chuck Swirsky.

Here are Chuck's 'reasons'

*He played a significant role on a playoff team
*Raptors tied a franchise-record with 47 wins; Blazers won 30 (actually, Blazers won 32)
*Bargnani was named Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month in January and February
*In January, Bargnani averaged 11 points and 3 rebounds with 39 percent three-pointers and 94 percent free throws
*In February, Bargnani averaged 14 points, 3 rebounds with 50 percent field goal, 48 percent three-pointers and 82 percent free throw
*As a team during those two months, the Raptors went 18-9
*Bargnani averaged 10 fewer minutes per game than Roy
*Bargnani attempted an average of four fewer shots than Roy, and was the Raptors fourth option behind Chris Bosh, TJ Ford and Anthony Parker.
*Bargnani hit a jumper in overtime that helped beat the Blazers in the Rose Garden
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http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2007/04/roy_will_not_be_unanimous_roy.html

Thanks Chuck! Dickhead.

Here are Brandon Roy's clutch plays this season:

Part of what made Brandon Roy the NBA's Rookie of the Year was his ability to make the big play in crunch time. Here is a sampling of his late-game heroics: 

Nov. 4, vs. Minnesota: Trailing 86-85, Roy penetrates and passes to Juan Dixon in the corner for a three-pointer with 6.2 seconds left that completes a 16-point comeback. 

Jan. 6, at Sacramento: In his 14th game as a professional, Roy hits a fadeaway 15-footer at the buzzer to send the game into overtime. The Blazers go on to win 110-105, ending a four-game losing streak. 

Jan. 21, vs. Milwaukee: With the Blazers clinging to a 96-93 lead, Roy makes a 7-foot floater with 14.3 seconds left to seal a 99-95 victory at the Rose Garden. 

Jan. 24, vs. Minnesota: Trailing 98-97 with 12.3 seconds left in overtime, Roy makes two free throws that prove to be the winning margin after Ricky Davis misses a long jumper. 

Jan. 27, at Memphis: With the score tied at 123-123 in the second overtime, Roy scores five consecutive points, the last with 1:10 left to give the Blazers an insurmountable 128-123 lead. 

Jan. 31, vs. Denver: Leading 91-88 in the final minute, Roy penetrates and remembers advice from Jarrett Jack, who told Roy he had been open in the corner. Roy finds Jack with a zip pass, and Jack hits a game-sealing three-pointer with 33.4 seconds left, ending an eight-game losing streak to the Nuggets. Prior to the pass, Roy scored 15 fourth-quarter points, tied with Zach Randolph for the most any Blazers player had scored in the final period this season. 

Feb. 2, at Denver: With the Blazers trailing 97-94, Roy hits an off-balance, leaning three-pointer with 2.5 seconds left at the Pepsi Center to send the game into overtime. The Blazers lose 114-107. 

Feb. 6, vs. Phoenix: Trailing 96-93, Roy again executes one of his growing weapons: the pass to the corner after penetrating. This time, he finds Ime Udoka in the corner, and the shot ties the score with 32.6 seconds left. After Travis Outlaw blows a potential game-winning layup, Roy preserves the tie when he blocks Leandro Barbosa's 20-foot jumper at the buzzer. Portland loses 109-102. 

Feb. 9, at Charlotte: Trailing 86-83, the Blazers once again turn to Roy, who missed much of the second half while getting his right hand X-rayed. Despite taking just one shot after he injured his hand, Roy accepts the crunch-time responsibility and hits a three-pointer with 8.4 seconds left to send the game into overtime, and the Blazers win. 

Feb. 23, vs. Memphis: Trailing 102-98, Roy hits a three-pointer with 1.4 seconds left to get the Blazers to within 102-101. The Blazers have a chance to send the game into overtime, but Ime Udoka misses the second of two free throws with 0.8 seconds left. 

March 16, at Los Angeles Lakers: Leading 96-95, Roy makes a driving layup with 31.2 seconds left, but the heroics are nullified when Kobe Bryant sends the game into overtime with a three-pointer with 17.2 seconds left. Bryant goes on to score 65 points, leading the Lakers to the overtime win. 

March 20, vs. Washington: Leading 94-93, Roy makes a driving layup with 25.8 seconds left, helping the Blazers hold on for a 100-98 win. 

March 23, at Atlanta: Trailing 88-85, Roy hits a three-pointer with 17.3 seconds left to send the game into overtime. In overtime, Roy hits a key jumper, then seals the 102-100 victory by making two free throws with 4.3 seconds left.

April 4, vs. Utah: With the score tied at 87-87, Roy puts the Blazers ahead for good by making two free throws with 1:03 left. He seals the 94-89 victory by making two more free throws with 6.7 seconds left, capping his career-high, 29-point night. 

-- Jason Quick 

Brandon Roy's season averages 
G Pts. Reb. Ast. FG FT
57 16.8 4.4 4.0 .456 .838 
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SAY IT WITH ME NOW!

R
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Chuck Swirsky can go to hell.

Here is his email for anyone that likes to make him feel stupid: cswirsky@torontoraptors.com
 
bionic77 said:
Sports reporters are expected to kiss up to their hometown teams if they expect to last more than a few months.
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Yes, this way he can be introduced as "Rookie of the Year #1 Vote Recipient . . . ."

But seriously as long as the right guy won it's not really a big deal. It's not like anyone really remembers or cares that David Robinson got 100% of the votes (except on the one day the voting is announced each year).
 
Kak.efes said:
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Ford being helped up after his stinger. Both he and Calderon are questionable for friday night.
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I hope Ford is OK. I know it's just a stinger, but on his already injured neck/spine... :-(
 
Karakand said:
Now you're just becoming a cliché of yourself. :lol
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That doesn't even make sense.

Anyway, I only watched this game live 10 years ago, and I barely remembered anything. Watching it again now the screen is so damn blatant I just found it shocking that I didn't even bat an eye back then.
 
woodchuck said:
:(

Besides, I don't think Dallas can stop the Suns. It's been 3 years, and the Mavs still can't stop the Nash-Amare pick and roll. Spurs are the only ones that can stop it.

I just don't want to see a Rockets-Suns WCF since that would probably end in 4 or 5.
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Yeah but Nash has to guard Terry or Harris and they have big bodies to deter Amare. Plus the Mavs just play a more controlled style. You can't beat the Suns playing fun-n-gun...
 
Kak.efes said:
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Ford being helped up after his stinger. Both he and Calderon are questionable for friday night.
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What's Ford gettin teary eyed for? I missed most of the Nets/Raptors game yesterday and don't really know the history about Ford.
 
Kangu said:
That doesn't even make sense.

Anyway, I only watched this game live 10 years ago, and I barely remembered anything. Watching it again now the screen is so damn blatant I just found it shocking that I didn't even bat an eye back then.
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I was trying to say you've become a self-aware cliché. This is what I get for reading in another language too much at school. -_-

You bitch about calls a lot ---> I don't take those seriously because of frequency ---> You post a clip from a Rockets' game TEN years ago and make a comment about a no-call ---> I start wondering if you called your dad for palming when you played driveway ball as a kid
 
Karakand said:
I was trying to say you've become a self-aware cliché. This is what I get for reading in another language too much at school. -_-

You bitch about calls a lot ---> I don't take those seriously because of frequency ---> You post a clip from a Rockets' game TEN years ago and make a comment about a no-call ---> I start wondering if you called your dad for palming when you played driveway ball as a kid
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He just wants to remember the bullshit history of the Rockets/Jazz rivalry. I saw this game when I was like 10 or 11, and I was pissed.
 
The Mavs can beat the Suns I think. They can beat the Spurs more easily, though.

But it's pointless to discuss facing either team unless they win game 6.
 
I forgot how exciting the NBA playoffs are, but that's mainly because my team has sucked balls for years. This is such a great ****ing series.
 
985boi said:
What's Ford gettin teary eyed for? I missed most of the Nets/Raptors game yesterday and don't really know the history about Ford.
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Ford had serious spinal surgery as a Buck (reason he was released). Yesterday an out-of-control Vince Carter nearly killed him by landing on his back and rolling on his neck. Ford actually tried to get up and for awhile couldn't. It was probably the most physical play of the series by Carter. :D
 
methodman said:
I forgot how exciting the NBA playoffs are, but that's mainly because my team has sucked balls for years. This is such a great ****ing series.
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If I wasn't a Mavs fan, I would be rooting for GS -- they are fun as hell to watch.
 
The Frankman said:
Ford had serious spinal surgery as a Buck (reason he was released).
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He was actually traded for Charlie Villanueva.

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I've never understood people who are fans of more than one team. What happens if the Mavs play the Bulls in The Finals?
 
methodman said:
I forgot how exciting the NBA playoffs are, but that's mainly because my team has sucked balls for years. This is such a great ****ing series.
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The quality of teams in the West this year is really unmatched. Other than the Lakers there isn't a single team in the conference that you could consider an easy out. No wonder the Spurs were so pissed when Duncan got ejected ending their chances at the 2 seed. Even looking at Spurs-Nuggets, which will probably end tonight, most of the games have been very well played with the results coming down to execution in the last couple of minutes.

NBA playoffs, it's FAAANTASTIC!*






*Unless you root for the LOLakers.
 
Kangu said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcVzcPOP0Sw

Watch the last 3 minutes of this video to see the most BLATANT moving screen of all time caught on tape.
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That game still haunts me.

I was 17 and cried like a baby after the dirty Jazz knocked out our stacked team.10 years later revenge would be sweet on there homecourt tommorow.
 
Kangu said:
The quality of teams in the West this year is really unmatched. Other than the Lakers there isn't a single team in the conference that you could consider an easy out. No wonder the Spurs were so pissed when Duncan got ejected ending their chances at the 2 seed. Even looking at Spurs-Nuggets, which will probably end tonight, most of the games have been very well played with the results coming down to execution in the last couple of minutes.

NBA playoffs, it's FAAANTASTIC!*






*Unless you root for the LOLakers.
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Feel bad for the Nuggs. Ultra-talented team but in the stacked West they have to settle for winning a single game in the first round.
 
Matrix said:
That game still haunts me.

I was 17 and cried like a baby after the dirty Jazz knocked out our stacked team.10 years later revenge would be sweet on there homecourt tommorow.
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:lol You crazy Rocket fans.
 
DALLAS – They were walking past the windows of the Old No. 7 Club in the corridor between the home and away locker rooms, the three stragglers shuffling past the postgame bar and grill of Dallas Mavericks fans. Long past midnight now, these people started standing and screaming through the glass, barking at Baron Davis and Don Nelson, clutching his Bud Light, and finally the most hated Warrior in the house, Stephen Jackson.

Davis and Nellie smiled and nodded on the way out of Game 5 on Tuesday night,
but Jackson is Jackson and this wild series has brought out the best and worst of him. He wore his Yankees cap sideways along with his diamond studded crucifix, and finally he reached into his pocket, pulled out his money clip and waved a big, fat wad of the Golden State Warriors house money at those cursing him.
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:lol :lol
 
"We're going to have to redevelop the culture here, and it's going to be a different one. I'm going to take total responsibility for not holding them to a culture."

He was asked how he would get that message across to Shaquille O'Neal, who for years has downplayed the regular season.
"If he wants to give back $10 million and play half a season, that's fine,'' Riley said of his center, who is due $20 million each of the next three years. "The dialogue has to stop. You can't sell that to your fans.

"He knows his influence on his teammates. He's going to have to lead by real example."
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Yikes! :lol
 
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