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[Sharp]

Moving him to ss?

How should I fucking know, Heyman reported it.

 

[Enron]

Yeah your team lost the All-Star game for the rest of the AL. Thanks.

Better than not showing up!

 

[Enron]

LOL @ K-Rod deal

 

[clemenx]

SIGN JOSE NAO

 

[eznark]

How should I fucking know, Heyman reported it.

I would hazard a guess that the brewers are not, in fact, moving KRod to shortstop. Saito-KRod-axford sweet, as long as the mets are paying for him.

 

[CajoleJuice]

beltran's next

 

[ProtoCents]

Here comes the fire sale.

EVERYTHING MUST GO

 

[Windu]

I would hazard a guess that the brewers are not, in fact, moving KRod to shortstop. Saito-KRod-axford sweet, as long as the mets are paying for him.

do the brewers have anything that would make the mets pay for him? And this is the same team that is like a billion in debt too.

 

[weekend_warrior]

Better than not showing up!

How's losing the game better then not showing up?

 

[MC Safety]

Can someone explain the reasoning behind making a trade for players to be named later?

 

[eznark]

do the brewers have anything that would make the mets pay for him? And this is the same team that is like a billion in debt too.

Course not. This fucking sucks. /banned

 

[LJ11]

K-Rod plus cash to the Brew Crew for two PTBL.

Guy on a Mets board posted about K-Rod being dealt around 10pm, dude had the scoop on Tony B as well. He did make another thread about Reyes, a while ago, but it turned out to be false. Was going to post it earlier but the guy was batting .500. Guess I can trust him a bit more after tonight.

 

[Enron]

How's losing the game better then not showing up?

Do all yankee fans have attitudes like this?

"Its better to not even bother than to lose"

Something you want to teach your kids, for sure!

I see Yankee fans are still smarting after last year's ALCS.

 

[Sharp]

I would hazard a guess that the brewers are not, in fact, moving KRod to shortstop. Saito-KRod-axford sweet, as long as the mets are paying for him.

Have you ever seen K-Rod at SS? Don't be so quick to judge your organization.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Can someone explain the reasoning behind making a trade for players to be named later?

I don't know the specifics of this trade, but the Indians are fond of doing conditional PTBNL's. It can be tied to performance of the player being traded (giving the team getting the star player a better sense of security) or allowing their scouting department to do further advanced scouting on the minor leaguers being considered.

 

[LJ11]

Yeah, according to a tweet the final selection is based on K-Rod's performance.

 

[eznark]

Mets have six months to complete the trade and the pool is based on krods performance.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Micheal Brantley was a conditional PTBNL (in the CC trade). The other player was Taylor Green.

 

[eznark]

Oh shit...hahaha ah, his bonus is for finished games? No way he gets that 17 million!!

LOVE THIS TRADE!!

 

[Windu]

K-rod is going to throw a hissy fit if he isn't the 9th inning guy.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Yea, I don't understand why agents allow that 'finished games' clause. It seems to never work out for closers. Kerry Wood got screwed out of a third year because of it.

 

[eznark]

K-rod is going to throw a hissy fit if he isn't the 9th inning guy.

He better get hissing cause his save total is about as high as it will get til September.

Beautiful. Essentially a free pitcher to bolster the pen. Way to go, Doug! Also congrats to Mets fans for moving this awful contract.

 

[weekend_warrior]

Do all yankee fans have attitudes like this?

"Its better to not even bother than to lose"

Something you want to teach your kids, for sure!
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Our players wanted to rest up before starting the second half instead of participating in a sham game. That's their choice. I guess when you get voted to the All-Star game every single year it gets old.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I would have figured it would taken at least a couple of weeks for Yankees fans to whine about the AL losing them home field advantage in the WS.

Yanks lose 4-3 in the WS confirmed.

ONE fan making a mild complain is all fans now? oh ho ho ho.... good start.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

oh K-rod gone? I guess his constant praying was answered.

 

[darkside31337]

He better get hissing cause his save total is about as high as it will get til September.

Beautiful. Essentially a free pitcher to bolster the pen. Way to go, Doug! Also congrats to Mets fans for moving this awful contract.

You are really really confident that K-Rod's option doesn't vest.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/125465823.html

According to Melvin it's completely up to the manager who the closer is. Bet he goes with K-Rod.

 

[eznark]

You are really really confident that K-Rod's option doesn't vest.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/125465823.html

According to Melvin it's completely up to the manager who the closer is. Bet he goes with K-Rod.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahha.........breathe


Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahha


Also, Axford has closed 21 straight games. Ya, totally gonna remove him at the cost of $17 million.

Although Roenicke is fucking dumb.

 

[darkside31337]

Although Roenicke is fucking dumb.

Exactly why I think K-Rod is going to be the full time closer and K-Rod gets his guaranteed money.

I'm assuming Melvin is just being political here, in reality he told Roenicke he's fired if he makes K-Rod the closer.

 

[LJ11]

Wait a minute, isn't K-Rod's option only applicable with the Mets. If he isn't with the Mets the option can't be triggered. He switched reps, with Boras now, because he knows he's going to be a FA.

 

[eznark]

Exactly why I think K-Rod is going to be the full time closer and K-Rod gets his guaranteed money.

I'm assuming Melvin is just being political here, in reality he told Roenicke he's fired if he makes K-Rod the closer.

Of course he is just being political. Melvin makes most personnel decisions, including player roles.

 

[Corran Horn]

Krod traded? Aww...


For my whole life I will hate the dude....stupid world series.

 

[darkside31337]

Wait a minute, isn't K-Rod's option only applicable with the Mets. If he isn't with the Mets the option can't be triggered. He switched reps, with Boras now, because he knows he's going to be a FA.

According to ESPN you are wrong.

Spoiler

So you're probably right.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Wait a minute, isn't K-Rod's option only applicable with the Mets. If he isn't with the Mets the option can't be triggered. He switched reps, with Boras now, because he knows he's going to be a FA.

A contract is a contract. Unless there is specific language that a trade nullifies a portion of it, it remains the same.

 

[Windu]

Francisco Rodriguez rhp

3 years/$37M (2009-11), plus 2012 option
signed by NY Mets as a free agent 12/9/08
$2M signing bonus
09:$8.5M, 10:$11.5M, 11:$11.5M, 12:$17.5M option ($3.5M buyout)
2012 option becomes guaranteed with:
55 games finished in 2011, and
100 games finished in 2010-11, and
doctors declare Rodriguez healthy after 2011
Rodriguez receives $3.5M termination buyout if 2012 option does not become guaranteed
annual performance bonuses, 2009-11:
$0.15M each for 50, 55 GF; $0.2M for 60 GF
2012 performance bonuses:
$0.3M each for 50, 55 GF; $0.4M for 60 GF
limited no-trade clause allowing Rodriguez to block deals to 10 clubs
award bonuses: $50,000 for LCS MVP; $0.1M each for All Star, WS MVP; $0.1M for Cy Young ($75,000 for 2nd in vote, $50,000 for 3rd, $25,000 for 4th or 5th); $0.1M for MVP ($75,000 for 2nd in vote, $50,000 for 3rd, $25,000 for 4th or 5th); $0.1M for 1st-time Rolaids ($75,000 for 2nd in vote, $50,000 for 3rd, $25,000 for 4th or 5th); $0.2M for 2nd-time Rolaids; $0.4M for 3rd-time Rolaids; $0.8M for 4th-time Rolaids
1 year/$10M (2008)
lost in arbitration with LA Angels 2/22/08 ($12.5M-$10M)
1 year/$7M (2007)
re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration)
award bonus: $50,000 for All Star selection
1 year/$3.775M (2006)
re-signed by LA Angels 1/06 (avoided arbitration)
1 year/$0.44M (2005)
re-signed by LA Angels 2/05
1 year/$0.375M (2004)
re-signed by LA Angels 2/04
$25,000 All Star award bonus
1 year/$0.3125M (2003)
agent: Scott Boras (previously Paul Kinzer)
ML service: 7.150

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Supposedly, Brian Wilson was fined $100,000 by MLB for breaking tampering rules by what he said about Carlos Beltran during the starting line-up reading.

 

[LJ11]

A contract is a contract. Unless there is specific language that a trade nullifies a portion of it, it remains the same.

Right, I thought there was language that said just that, and with him switching agents it reinforced it. Guess I was wrong.

He'll be an FA, wouldn't worry about him pouting, it's what Boras wants.

 

[Corran Horn]

Supposedly, Brian Wilson was fined $100,000 by MLB for breaking tampering rules by what he said about Carlos Beltran during the starting line-up reading.

What he say? I missed the first few innings.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

What he say? I missed the first few innings.

Roughly: "Batting second, right fielder Carlos Beltran. I heard we were interested in him. I'd be down for that. Great hitter. I'd love him in a Giants uniform."

 

[darkside31337]

Supposedly, Brian Wilson was fined $100,000 by MLB for breaking tampering rules by what he said about Carlos Beltran during the starting line-up reading.

So they were cool with the Giants letting Beltran and Reyes fly on the Giants charter plane to the ASG but not cool with Wilson saying Beltran is a pretty awesome hitter and that Sabean should look into trading for him? I'd find that completely ridiculous. When did MLB hire David Stern?

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Roughly: "Batting second, right fielder Carlos Beltran. I heard we were interested in him. I'd be down for that. Great hitter. I'd love him in a Giants uniform."

how the fuck is that tampering?

 

[Lambtron]

how the fuck is that tampering?

Seligula.

 

[Corran Horn]

how the fuck is that tampering?

Stern did worse. Anyone talking about players got fined lol.

 

[sangreal]

Right, I thought there was language that said just that, and with him switching agents it reinforced it. Guess I was wrong.

No, the reason everyone said a trade would void the option is just because nobody would be stupid enough to make him their closer. The Mets couldn't yank him from the closer role without losing a grievance and paying him anyway. It'll be interesting to see what happens if the Brewers' closer gets injured

He'll be an FA, wouldn't worry about him pouting, it's what Boras wants.

That would make sense (since that is how Boras would get paid), but Boras was just telling everyone he wouldn't accept a trade to a team as a setup man. Too bad he only has a limited non-trade.

It's possible Boras wants it to vest so he can demand more money for his other reliever clients

 

[verbum]

At least K-Rod will be away from his father in law. He may not care about the 17 million if he can put some distance between him and his in-laws.
The Brewers have the 8th and 9th innings covered now. I wonder if St. Louis will trade for anyone?

 

[Joe]

from southern california to new york and now to....milwaukee. with any luck his next stop will be toronto.

 

[Y2Kev]

Seligula, lol!


I can't wait to see what the NY post says about cj wilson today!

 

[h3ro]

Do all yankee fans have attitudes like this?

"Its better to not even bother than to lose"

Something you want to teach your kids, for sure!

I see Yankee fans are still smarting after last year's ALCS.

One of our guys has a rough few posts in this thread and you're painting all of us with that brush?

Last year's ALCS? Please allow me to quote one of the greatest films of all time...

For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.

 

[eznark]

Phew crisis averted. We can talk about everything except sex and Jose Bautista. Bullet dodged.

 

[Wellington]

Wait... some team out there thinks K-Rod will be an effective middle reliever?

Definitely believe it when I see it.

Good on the Mets for being able to unload that albatross. On Boomer & Carton they were saying it's a total savings on K-Rod of $20 MM (including the option). Increases the chances of re-signing Reyes, right?

 

[eznark]

Can be pretty sure he wont be worse than Kam Loe. And for free? Worth a shot.