Shouta said:
If you want to play the game and be surprised, you really shouldn't actively read the entire thread Red. Every little thing shouldn't have to be spoiler tagged even if it's an item, meeting a specific enemy, or something that someone that finds surprising (only the "Oh shit" stuff should be tagged in this category). The entire point of this thread and big discussion threads in general are to have a place to discuss the game fairly freely with only big story elements being restricted for the most part. Not only that, it's to give advice and help other players along the way.
Most of the stuff is already being done but frankly, some of the stuff you're complaining about isn't even ruining the game. How does "hey guys, I heard there's a weapon that breaks the game at so-and-so place and you have to do this-and-that" constitute ruining your game experience? Are you compelled to get the item yourself because someone told you? How does knowing there's a NG+ ruin your experience with the game? You're the only person that's actually complained about it being a spoiler and Jonnyram nailed it when he said you would.
I mean, some of the stuff that's getting spoiler tagged is just ridiculous. Number of Mob hunts? How many summons you have? The real spoilers would be what Summons are in the game and how you get them.
I've been reading the non-spoiler tagged posts or going back and reading them when I figure I'm past that point in the game. Not every post is for every person to read in topics such as this. Spoiler tags make such things easy to do. Plus if you see something you may know about, then you can check the blackened-out text. It isn't hard to use a tag, plus it keeps things safe. It isn't intrusive.
It's not ruining it for you. People are different. I consider the fact that there is a New Game + mode a pretty big gameplay spoiler. You obviously don't care, but I do. Fine, I'll leave this topic for you guys that just care about the story in videogames. Have fun. The fact that people can't even see that some of the stuff you just mentioned *CAN* take some of the fun away of finding things out on your own is mind boggling. But since it's not a storyline element, who cares.
I've had practically no problems with how the thread was going until my name was mentioned by Jonnyram and he quoted about New Game+. Again, it (the person Jonnyram quoted) was by a random person not playing the game saying it for no reason except to ask about it when it should have been tagged. That changes the gameplay quite a bit to know you can have New Game+. But since it doesn't affect the story directly, it's fair game. Which I find really stupid. So whatever.
Hey, Ultros is fightable as an optional monster. But it's optional and not a storyline battle, so no one gives a shit, right? You can't complain because it isn't a direct part of the story. You may say "whoa, awesome". You may say "ah crap now it won't be a surprise". Too bad. It's not a storyline battle. It's fair game. I'll just talk to Mandoric and duckroll on IRC then. I had no problems with how this topic was progressing until I was pointed out and people started talking about endgame stuff non-chalantly. Then Tsubaki decided to make a troll comment because that's how he is. I am not trying to play the victim, but I would have never said my last few responses had no one taken notice of those particular posts and pointing me out alone.
I don't care about the storyline in the games. But if you read my posts, I have not mentioned anything about the storyline in any of them. If I were to, I would use spoiler tags. Why this concept that some things people might not want to know (this means spoiler tags, NOT not mentioning things at all whatsoever) is beyond me. Looks like this is the first and last time I'll bother playing a brand new game with other people at the same time while at a forum. People just can't seem to realize there are different standards of what people may or may not want to know and they simply don't give a shit.
No one's definition of what equals a spoiler is the same. Instead of taking that into consideration, let's just say screw those people. Most people were doing their part, but that doesn't seem to matter. What Shouta says is law, right?
This is a brand new game. Most everything is being found out by those playing right now. Isn't that the
point of spoiler tags? Apparently not, as it only matters to what the characters in the game say.
I did my part, and I appreciate all the posters that did a great job with their tagging.
Have fun with the game guys. Sorry about the monster I mentioned, but it was to prove my point. There will undoubtedly be at least 1 person that didn't want to know. And that's what spoiler tags are for, which some people in this topic don't get the damn point.