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Official Football Thread 2006/2007 (Soccer)

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Allardyce seems to be doing quite wel in the transfer market so far. Looks like they're going to get Barton for £5.5m and sell Parker for £8.5m, so that's £3m up. To be honest I don't really understand selling Parker, but if he can find as good a, or better, defensive midfielders for cheaper than great. Obviously Barton isn't that.

Then Sibikerski's gone on a free, and Viduka's a step away from joining on a free also.

So currently he's sort of swapping Parker and Sibierski for Barton, Viduka and £3m.

It's also rumoured that he's after Ben Haim or Campbell (or possibly both) on a free, so that'll go along with Bramble leaving on a free.

I reckon if he can get those 4 he should pick up Luke Young for maybe £3m from Charlton at right back, then spend the majority of his budget on a quality left back and defensive midfielder. They'll be well set up then.
 
Cornballer said:
Has anyone seen this before? I would assume it's fake, but it made me laugh...
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:lol :lol :lol
 
U.S. Soccer Launches Development Academy to Expand Opportunities for Players Nationwide

The powers-that-be in US Soccer announced yesterday that they're completely restructuring the youth setup here in America. It's a great move for our program and will open up a lot of opportunities for younger players in the future. The way I understand this, the US will be moving towards a more European model with youth players getting significant training during the week and a handful of meaningful games on the weekends. The problems with the system before included not enough training and too many games on the weekend. (Many youth teams would typically play 4-5 matches in a weekend, which is a tough way to judge and develop talent - the kids are just too tired.) There will be more structure, regional tournaments, links to MLS, and coaching oversight from the people running it. It's the sort of thing that will take a long time to have an effect on the National team, but I'm glad that the federation is finally taking youth development more seriously - it bodes well for the future.
 
Eurosport said:
Premiership - Milan admit failed Henry bid
Eurosport - Tue, 05 Jun 15:20:00 2007

Premiership - Milan have admitted that they once bid for Arsenal's Thierry Henry - but were rejected by the player himself.

Henry, who has been long-linked with a move to Barcelona, had been lined-up as a summer transfer target for the European champions, with Carlo Ancelotti admitting recently that he was keen to sign the France forward.

But vice-president Adriano Galliani has admitted defeat in his quest to sign Henry, adding that he believes the former Juventus and Monaco man is loyal to the Gunners.

"[Henry] is a player who we have always liked," Galliani said.

"After the transfer of [Andriy Shevchenko to Chelsa] we were close to buying him but the great man wanted to stay at the club that launched him and made him famous."
:)
 
I know Henry has repeated over and over that he is loyal to Arsenal and does not want to leave, but I'm not going to lie, it will make me feel alot better if I see him in an Arsenal shirt and on he pitch in July. Apparently 'no one' turns down Barcelona (even though TH did it last year) and the constant pursuit of him by high-profile and very successful clubs makes me nervous. I can't help it.

If he leaves (which I doubt he will), I will be absolutely devastated.
 
h0pper said:
I know Henry has repeated over and over that he is loyal to Arsenal and does not want to leave, but I'm not going to lie, it will make me feel alot better if I see him in an Arsenal shirt and on he pitch in July. Apparently 'no one' turns down Barcelona (even though TH did it last year) and the constant pursuit of him by high-profile and very successful clubs makes me nervous. I can't help it.

If he leaves (which I doubt he will), I will be absolutely devastated.

Don't you mean 31st of August?
 
Steroyd said:
Don't you mean 31st of August?

Pre-season starts mid-July I believe ;/

Anyway, I found this on ESPNsoccernet

Fabregas fears Henry exit
Cesc Fabregas believes the lure of Barcelona could prove 'difficult' for Arsenal team-mate Thierry Henry to resist this summer as the Catalan club prepare to swoop

Wasn't Fab just quoted as saying that Wenger told them Henry will stay? This is completely out of control...
 
He's talking about the transfer window slamming shut, lots of big name deals have gone to the last day in the past.

You know, I reckon if Arsenal lost Wenger, Henry and Fabregas (as they'd likely follow each other out of the door if one went), with all the investment in other clubs we could see Arsenal regularly outside of the top 4 in a few years time.

Sleep well.
 
h0pper said:
Wasn't Fab just quoted as saying that Wenger told them Henry will stay? This is completely out of control...
They're selectively quoting to sell papers - sort of par for the course....

Here's the Arseblog version of it:
Arseblog said:
Cesc, who is away with the Spanish national side, was asked by Catalan radio about Thierry Henry and a possible move to Barcelona. He said:

"I know that Henry likes Barcelona but on the other hand he loves Arsenal for all the club has given him and the life he has lived there. Barcelona is one of the best clubs in the world and Henry is a great player. Barcelona always have the best players in the world and Henry is one of the best. Henry has already won the World Cup and now he wants to win titles at club level. For me Barcelona is a big club but Arsenal too is a big club and it’s up to Henry to decide what’s best for him."

Soundbite stuff really and he goes on to say:

"Wenger has told us he’ll continue with Arsenal."

He also goes on to talk about a possible return to Barcelona at some point in the future but as he points out at the moment they have players like Xavi and Iniesta in the side at the moment who would make that difficult. There’s no great shocker in a young man talking about returning home one day.
 
Mama Smurf said:
He's talking about the transfer window slamming shut, lots of big name deals have gone to the last day in the past.

You know, I reckon if Arsenal lost Wenger, Henry and Fabregas (as they'd likely follow each other out of the door if one went), with all the investment in other clubs we could see Arsenal regularly outside of the top 4 in a few years time.

Sleep well.

If Wenger goes, Henry will go as well. No question. I would also be concerned that Fabregas would then leave. But, Arsenal has too much money and reputation to fall off the top end of the table. I think they would re-build rather quickly if a disaster like that occurred lol.
 
h0pper said:
Wasn't Fab just quoted as saying that Wenger told them Henry will stay? This is completely out of control...
actually, that's from the same interview. Of course, it is more attention grabbing to take the other stuff he said in that interview out of context. So we're seeing different headlines relating to the same source.

Basically he just said that Henry is probably tempted by Barca, but Wenger told them that he would stay.

edit: what Cornballer said
Mama Smurf said:
He's talking about the transfer window slamming shut, lots of big name deals have gone to the last day in the past.

You know, I reckon if Arsenal lost Wenger, Henry and Fabregas (as they'd likely follow each other out of the door if one went), with all the investment in other clubs we could see Arsenal regularly outside of the top 4 in a few years time.

Sleep well.

*puts mama on ignore list*
 
Henry, Fabregas, and Wenger are all going to leave eventually. I'd assume that Henry would be the first to go, but it's just a matter if it's in the next couple of weeks (I think that's unlikely) or the following two summers. Fabregas will go back to Barca at some point, but again, it makes a big difference if it's next year versus five years from now. I don't expect either player to retire with the club. Pretty much the same story with Wenger. I'm not too concerned about any of them leaving as long as the future of the club is sound and adequate replacements are found. *shrugs*
 
I can't remember a time where transfers started so bloody early. We're a week into June and deals are flying all over the place. Premiership midfielder musical chairs is entertaining.
 
Cornballer said:
Henry, Fabregas, and Wenger are all going to leave eventually. I'd assume that Henry would be the first to go, but it's just a matter if it's in the next couple of weeks (I think that's unlikely) or the following two summers. Fabregas will go back to Barca at some point, but again, it makes a big difference if it's next year versus five years from now. I don't expect either player to retire with the club. Pretty much the same story with Wenger. I'm not too concerned about any of them leaving as long as the future of the club is sound and adequate replacements are found. *shrugs*


I actually expect Henry to end up retiring at Arsenal and depending on how close Fabre gets to the club it's not impossible for him to as well. As for Wenger, it's been said many times he has a job for life. Does he want to continue at Arsenal for however long he has left in his career? No one knows I guess. lol

Obviously with Fabre being so young that ones quite a long shot. =P Oh and with the fact he said he would like to play in Spain again. lol
 
MrPing1000 said:
I can't remember a time where transfers started so bloody early. We're a week into June and deals are flying all over the place. Premiership midfielder musical chairs is entertaining.

I think they started a bit earlier last year, but that's understandable given the World Cup. Some of the big names had already moved in May, like Rosicky, Kalou, Ballack, Shevchenko, Andy Johnson...
 
The thing that really has caused alot of controversey is Dein leaving. Wenger and him were very close and I think that Arsene is upset about the way things ended with Dein and Arsenal. I would love to see Wenger stay at Arsenal, he is a great manager, but even more so I would like to see him remain at Arsenal because time after time Henry has stressed not only his devotion to Arsenal but to Arsene Wenger. This Dein and Kroenke s*** caused a few problems. I just hope we can get through the transfer period without any huge losses. I wish I could be done talking about this subject but it keeps on coming back ;x
 
Cornballer said:
:lol Nice selective quoting - you should work for an English paper!
I'd love to. Good money for little effort and you get to see all the games you want for free.

My dream job

Ronok said:
I actually expect Henry to end up retiring at Arsenal and depending on how close Fabre gets to the club it's not impossible for him to as well. As for Wenger, it's been said many times he has a job for life. Does he want to continue at Arsenal for however long he has left in his career? No one knows I guess. lol

Obviously with Fabre being so young that ones quite a long shot. =P Oh and with the fact he said he would like to play in Spain again. lol
I really think that Wenger will retire at Arsenal, at least I thought so until Dein got the boot.

I still think both Henry and him will retire at this club
 
Don't get me wrong, I hope you guys are right. I don't want any of them to leave as they've meant so much to Arsenal and still comprise the nucleus of the team. I'm just trying to be objective and realistic about it without being too optimistic or pessimistic.

My new avatar? (Borrowed from another forum.)
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Then I can get a "The sky is falling!" tag, too....
 
Mama Smurf said:
So what would you guys have preferred? Dein to stay and American ownership, or Dein going and all this unrest?
the unrest will go away eventually, but there's no denying that it's gonna be a long and difficult summer for us. I fully expect all our big guns staying though, and I fully expect one or two quality signings. Note that all the bloody rumours are coming from Spain, from sources that are known for their wishful thinking. I don't believe a word before I hear something from a reliable source.

Once the unrest has settled and we can concentrate on football again (ie the start of the new season) and Wenger has decided on a new director of football things should look far more positive again.

To answer your question: I prefer it this way.
 
It's ok at the moment, but if the unrest does leave to anyone leaving...

And then the real kick in the balls will be next summer when Kroenke finally gets his club anyway.
 
h0pper said:
Pre-season starts mid-July I believe ;/

Yeah but shit happens you never know Henry could join in Pre-season training, and then there's a bust up between him and Wenger, then Henry's so pissed that he hands in a transfer request which Wenger reluctantly accepts, and then he says a big F U to Wenger and Arsenal and joins Barcelona, where he cruelly scores a Hat Trick against Arsenal in the Champions League and knocks them out.

Like I said shit happens.
 
For what it's worth I don't think Fabregas nor Wenger will leave this summer. It's just pure speculation at the mo. I think it's 70/30 that Henry will leave, but I think he will give it another season.

You see, it's ok to be optimistic.
 
Steroyd said:
Yeah but shit happens you never know Henry could join in Pre-season training, and then there's a bust up between him and Wenger, then Henry's so pissed that he hands in a transfer request which Wenger reluctantly accepts, and then he says a big F U to Wenger and Arsenal and joins Barcelona, where he cruelly scores a Hat Trick against Arsenal in the Champions League and knocks them out.

Like I said shit happens.
Mama Smurf said:
It's ok at the moment, but if the unrest does leave to anyone leaving...

And then the real kick in the balls will be next summer when Kroenke finally gets his club anyway.
wtf is going on here today. do you want to make me cry?
 
I don't see Henry ever going if he doesn't go this season. Well...not unless Wenger goes before he retires or Arsenal manage to end up outside of the CL or something.

I just don't see what could tempt him next year that doesn't tempt him now, and the older he gets the less clubs will be interested. Unless Arsenal win the league again and he feels he can go now he's helped Arsenal to another big trophy...hahaha, that's a good one huh, I made a joke.
 
Mama Smurf, I'd like to know who you support so I can attack you in every post I write just like you do to Arsenal fans.

I know Kroenke will eventually get his club, and even as an American, I think that sucks. I'm not quite sure, but I think ownership in teams here in the US works a different way. I don't think you can own stock in a team so you can't gather up ownership and then eventually be the biggest shareholder, thus the owner. Most teams here are owned by individuals or a small group of people, there isn't stock (as far as I know). I wish Dein had stayed, but s*** happens.
 
h0pper said:
Mama Smurf, I'd like to know who you support so I can attack you in every post I write just like you do to Arsenal fans.

Well it's a bit embarrassing, but as you can see from the blue and white red bull can, I support Bristol Rovers.
 
Switching gears here... Euro2008 roundup with a look at what's going on the next week. I think pretty much all of the groups are still very competitive - no one has run away with it quite yet. Are England fans looking at Estonia as a must-win?
Reuters said:
Euro 2008 qualifiers bring down curtain on season

LONDON, June 5 (Reuters) - World Cup winners Italy and runners-up France can take significant steps towards the Euro 2008 finals before the curtain falls on the international season on Wednesday.

Reigning European champions Greece, who have also made an excellent start to their campaign, should pick up another three points when they face Moldova in Crete in their bid to reach the finals in Austria and Switzerland and defend their title.

Italy, who squeaked a narrow 2-1 win in the Faroe Islands in their Group B match on Saturday, will be keen to beat Lithuania in Vilnius after stumbling to a 1-1 draw against them in their opening qualifier in Naples last September.

France, who lead Italy by two points and beat Ukraine 2-0 in Paris on Saturday, are also expected to be too strong for visitors Georgia in Auxerre as they bid to cement their place at the top of the group.

France beat Georgia 3-0 in their opening qualifier nine months ago and lead the standings with 15 points from six matches, followed by Italy on 13 and Ukraine and Scotland on 12.

Scotland should move above Ukraine, who are not playing, when they make the short flight across the North Atlantic to the Faroes.

Greece will finish the season top of Group C no matter the outcome of Wednesday's results.

They are two points ahead of Turkey, who are not playing, and five clear of Bosnia who dramatically beat the Turks 3-2 with a late goal on Saturday.

Most of the teams leading their groups look set to end the first half of the qualifiers in top place, although Northern Ireland will probably be knocked off their perch in Group F.

The Irish, on 13 points from six matches, are without a game and either Sweden, who are at home to Iceland, or Spain, who visit Liechtenstein, can dislodge them.

Sweden have 12 points from five matches after Saturday's game with Denmark in Copenhagen was abandoned a minute from time after the referee was attacked by a drunken Danish fan with the score level at 3-3.

UEFA will decide on Friday on what action to take, but until then their official standings do not include Saturday's result.

Germany, the Group D leaders who beat San Marino 6-0 on Saturday, should also extend their grip with a win over Slovakia in Hamburg which would move them five points clear of the Czech Republic, who do not play again until September.

Poland, who travel to Armenia, are five points clear in Group A with a good chance of qualifying for the finals for the first time. Portugal and Serbia, who trail Poland in second and third places, are without a game.

Romania will be looking to pull away from the Netherlands at the top of Group G when they host Slovenia and Bulgaria could overtake the Dutch, who are not playing, if they beat Belarus.

Croatia, who have never lost a competitive match at home in 32 matches since 1994, host Russia in an intriguing game at the top of Group E.

The Croatians won 1-0 in Estonia on Saturday to stay top of a tight section, two points ahead of Israel and Russia.

England, the other contenders in the group although they are fourth, have 11 points and did not play on Saturday, drawing 1-1 with Brazil in a friendly on Friday in the first senior international at the new Wembley Stadium.

They have to win in Estonia to keep their prospects alive while anything less will almost certainly spell the end of their qualifying hopes and Steve McClaren's reign as manager.
 
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