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[Aisenherz]

:lol

for the German league they are incredible

edit: laugh all you want. None of them would be a regular starter at clubs with real top strikers.

:lol :lol yeah, allright, fanboy

 

[Ghost]

for the German league they are incredible

edit: laugh all you want. None of them would be a regular starter at clubs with real top strikers.

I think 3 of them would get in your starting line up right now.

 

[Karakand]

Both Germano-Pole stars are now on Bayern.

 

[Aisenherz]

Hamit Altintop (Schalke 04) - turkish WM player
Marcell Jansen (Borussia Mönchengladbach) - german WM player
Franck Ribery (Olympique Marseille) - french WM player
Jan Schlaudraff (Alemannia Aachen) - german WM player
Jose Ernsto Sosa (Estudiantes de la Plata) - very young and talented mid-fielder
Luca Toni (AC Florenz) - italian WM player
Ze Roberto (Dos Santos) - brasilian WM player (ended his career for the brasilian team 1 week ago)
Miroslav Klose (Werder Bremen) - german WM player and top-scorer of the WM 2006

= over 70 Mio. €
Well, looks good!

 

[Falch]

for the German league they are incredible

edit: laugh all you want. None of them would be a regular starter at clubs with real top strikers.

Considering the fact that you hope that Babel and Huntelaar come to Arsenal, you're in no position to call Makaay, Toni or Klose half good strikers. :lol



Anyway, Bayern is looking to become an incredible team. Toni plus Klose upfront, with Ribery behind them. Damn.

 

[hadareud]

that may be true, but whether it's Anelka or Tevez we are getting in to play alongside Van Persie - they are better players than any of the 5.

:lol
:lol :lol yeah, allright, fanboy

I don't know about you, but I like it that the discussion in here is of a slightly higher standard than the gaming side here. And guess what, we don't even need mods for that.
So if you disagree with what I say you could come back with some arguments instead of some childish smileys.

Considering the fact that you hope that Babel and Huntelaar come to Arsenal, you're in no position to call Makaay, Toni or Klose half good strikers. :lol

:lol

at least they are young. well, so is Podolski of course.

 

[Falch]

Anelka is MOST CERTAINLY not a better striker than Makaay, Toni or Klose. I'll give you Tevez though, although I highly doubt Arsenal can afford him.

 

[psycho_snake]

that may be true, but whether it's Anelka or Tevez we are getting in to play alongside Van Persie - they are better players than any of the 5.

Tevez might be better than the bayern strikers, but anelka? You've got to be joking. Podolski, Toni and Klose are far better players than Anelka. For the last 4 years Toni has been brilliant in italy. Over those last 4 seasons, he's scored a goal every 1.55 games. At werder breman Klose has scored a goal ever 1.85 games. Those stats are more impressive than Anelka's stats. Podolski's also one of the best young german talents.

 

[Aisenherz]

that may be true, but whether it's Anelka or Tevez we are getting in to play alongside Van Persie - they are better players than any of the 5.

:lol :lol
Arguments? Well, what about:
Luca Toni, Makaay, Klose and Podolski are sh'tting all over Anelka, Tevez and Van Persie. Argument enough?
Loca Toni, Makaay and Klose are three of the best strikes of the world. Podolski is young and talented. He showed during the WM that HE IS the future.
Ribbery.... well, RIBBERY!!!!

 

[psycho_snake]

:lol :lol
Arguments? Well, what about:
Luca Toni, Makaay, Klose and Podolski are sh'tting all over Anelka, Tevez and Van Persie. Argument enough?

Thats rubbish. Id pick van persie or tevez over any of the other strikers you mentioned. Van persie is on the same level as the bayern striker, but I think he's got a lot more potential than anyone else. tevez is definately better than any of those strikers mentioned.

 

[Frenck]

Bayern sure knows how to spend money. But they'll lose Makaay now, he announced that he'll leave for the Netherlands if Bayern signs yet another striker.

Their signings aren't CL material, except maybe for Ribery, but they are solid players and I'm sure that Bayern will be quite a force to reckon with in the domestic league.

Spoiler

Blackburn will give them a beating though

 

[hadareud]

I know that I'm alone with my assessment of Anelka, but that's not really the point. We must be pretty bored for this argument to develop, but here's how I see it:

- Makaay was absolute top class but I would personally think that he is past it. He's 32 and I would think that we have seen him peak 2 years ago. That said - he has never managed to secure a starting place in the dutch team. Which should give us a pretty good indication if we would secure one at the European top.

- Podolski is a good talent. I don't think he is worldclass though nor do I think that he has the potential to be worldclass.

- Toni was very good in Italy, without a doubt. Is he worldclass? I'm unsure. If he is, why was he available for 7.5 million pounds?

- Klose is an excellent finisher, again without a doubt. Same level as Toni I would say.

- Santa Cruz is overrated, hopelessly so.

I agree that "half good" wasn't the right thing to say - but I was half joking.

 

[Frenck]

Santa Cruz will leave for Portugal as far as I know and Makaay will leave too.

 

[Wes]

Villa haven't been linked with anyone recently. I'm terribly bored.

 

[Shinobi]

I'd rather see him go to Arsenal than Liverpool. At least when Arsenal fans tease me about it I can throw those 6 points we took off them this season back in their faces..plus that whole 'First team to win away at the Emirates' thing...plus you have a stadium named after an airline...and you just lost Henry...and Fabregas is on his way too...

yeah i got plenty. You take tevez.


Plus the added bonus of being able to say "SEE REO-COKER, THAT'S A TOP 4 QUALITY PLAYER! GET BACK TO WORK!"...even if it's just in the living room, and he'll never hear me.

:lol :lol :lol I needed that laugh...

He could end up costing a lot, but you have to pay a lot of money for good players, unless you buy them from arsenal.

:lol Ouch dude...

I know we like to talk about wags every so often, it's just a shame I can't link you to a forum topic with lots of pics of them. It's NSFW you see. I considered hiding a link in this sentence, but that might get me in trouble. If I had done though, I would again have reminded you that it's NSFW.

You're so ****ing selfish.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Considering the fact that you hope that Babel and Huntelaar come to Arsenal, you're in no position to call Makaay, Toni or Klose half good strikers.

at least they are young. well, so is Podolski of course.

But have you tasted their melons?

 

[Aisenherz]

Thats rubbish. Id pick van persie or tevez over any of the other strikers you mentioned. Van persie is on the same level as the bayern striker, but I think he's got a lot more potential than anyone else. tevez is definately better than any of those strikers mentioned.

Well, I think THAT'S rubbish! Well, welcome in the world of opinions ;-)

 

[Mama Smurf]

You're welcome. I mean...damn right I am.

I'd take Van Persie over any of the Bayern strikers, but still, I don't doubt Toni, Klose of Makaay's ability. I do doubt Podolski's though, he's unimpressive.

 

[Cornballer]

Hmmmm, I'd take Tevez if Arsenal can pony up the cash to get him. I think that'd work out nicely. Maybe Babel is one for down the line, too. Winter?

I was looking around for information on the Bayern strikers, and I noticed that they use a UEFA multiplier to hand out the Golden Boot? I guess it makes sense - I just had no idea they've been doing this since 1996....

Since the 96/97 season the award has depended on a weighted system of points, with goals scored in leagues with a higher UEFA coefficient being worth more. For example, a 25-goal player from Serie A would have more points and so a higher ranking than a 25-goal player from the League of Wales. Before this, the award was given to Europe's top goalscorer, regardless of which league he participated in.

 

[psycho_snake]

Well, I think THAT'S rubbish! Well, welcome in the world of opinions ;-)

lets debate our opinions then.

Van persie's goal scoring record hasnt been as impressive as some of the bayern strikers, but van persie has got unbelievable technique. When it comes to technique, van persie is superior to every bayern striker. Just watch his goals. You rarely see an average van persie goal. Toni and klose score plenty of average goals, but thats not a bad thing at all. Their job is to finish off chances and they've been doing that very well. Their goalscoring records are much better than van persie. Even though Van Persie doesnt score as much as those strikers, Id still choose him over the other strikers because he's younger and he's got more potential. Over the next few years van persie will be great. I dont think van persie will ever become a prolific goalscorer, but I think he can become a capable goalscorer who can be a big help to the rest of the team. He can assist just as much as he can score.

As for tevez, well he kept west ham out of relegation pretty much on his own. His performances in the last few weeks were unbelievable. At times it felt like he was heading his own crosses because he was doing everything. If United didnt have rooney then I would be desperate to see united buy him. Tevez has shown that he can make the difference.

 

[Cornballer]

Van Persie!!!

 

[hadareud]

I'll give you Tevez though, although I highly doubt Arsenal can afford him.

the doom and gloom has left people to view us as a small club

let me tell you, we are not. If Wenger wants Tevez he can get him any day
I'll tell you another thing, even if Tevez is 30 million pounds we can buy him without touching a penny of our transfer budget.

edit: which reminds me that I read today that Wenger spent a net average of 4 to 5 million pounds a year since he joined the club.

This is really impressive I would think.

 

[Shinobi]

Tevez joining Arsenal would be LOL shit, particularly with all the haters and vultures circling over us the last week or so having a good ole' laugh. That laughter would quickly turn into the sound of chirping crickets. Still, we'd be hard pressed to beat out the competition for him. But yeah, he'd be an awesome replacement. I'd even take him over Malouda!

 

[Cornballer]

Oh yeah, and just a reminder that the Copa America kicks off tonight with Uruguay vs. Peru and Venezuela vs. Bolivia, all from Group A. Venezuela's group is a joke. :lol

Here are some odds to win the Copa from a typically sketchy interweb source....

Argentina: 7/4
Brazil: 7/4
Uruguay: 10/1
Mexico: 8/1
Venezuela: 16/1
Colombia: 16/1
Chile: 20/1
Paraguay: 20/1
USA: 25/1
Ecuador: 40/1
Peru: 50/1
Bolivia: 150/1

 

[Mama Smurf]

I don't doubt Arsenal could spend £30m on a player, I just don't know if they ever would. i mean, you're record transfer is £13m (Wiltord) and that was 7 years ago.

I think you show Wenger £30m and he doesn't see a guaranteed world class player, he sees 10 top class 15 year olds, any one of whom could become a world class player. Or none might.

 

[hadareud]

:lol

well, that's very true of course. We'll see if he is willing to pay that kind of money.

We pretty much know what he would do with that amount of money btw. He used the 23 million from Anelka to buy Henry, Wiltord and Pires for 29.

Not the worst piece of business.

 

[Osorio]

I would be upset at the 25/1 odds they gave the US, but looking at that lineup...

 

[Cornballer]

I would be upset at the 25/1 odds they gave the US, but looking at that lineup...

I think the odds should be worse than that given the lineup. I'm pretty sure the South American bookies haven't done a lot of homework to see who we're bringing.

 

[Ghost]

Seems pointless to speculate on Tevez really when he's almost guaranteed to be the other side of a rather big ocean untill August. Decisions might be made for him but I doubt we'll hear to much untill he's in a position to sign and be unvieled

Spoiler

At West Ham, on his new 10 year deal

Have to see If i can catch some games from that. What time(s) are the matches on?

 

[hadareud]

so it's either Inter or Arsenal for Tevez, or so it seems:

GUNNERS OR INTER FOR TEVEZ

West Ham striker Carlos Tevez has admitted he's 'excited' about the prospect of joining Arsenal as a replacement for Thierry Henry - but admits he could opt to sign for Inter Milan.

The Argentine international was instrumental in keeping the Hammers in the Premier League last season but he's now expected to leave Upton Park after his dramatic heroics attracted interest from bigger clubs.

The Gunners have been strongly linked with Tevez and the speculation has continued to grow in the wake of Henry's departure to Barcelona on Monday.

"I know people are now talking about Arsenal and obviously that is something I am excited about," Tevez told The Sun.

"It's another big club and the good thing is I wouldn't have to move out of London. I also already know English football and I like it.

"Arsenal's style is more technical than physical so I could fit in no problem. My transfer is being talked about a lot. It's beautiful to be wanted by various clubs."

Tevez has also gone on record saying he would not rule out a switch to Serie A.

"Inter is a great club," Tevez told Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport.

"There is a true possibility that I will wear the Nerazzurri colours next season.

"It's also true that Real Madrid are interested in my services but my agent knows exactly how I feel about it - better Inter than Real.

"I didn't have problems adapting at West Ham," Tevez continued.

"I didn't speak English but nevertheless I made myself understood on the pitch."

Despite his claim that the language barrier did not hamper his start to life in England, Tevez admits playing alongside compatriots Hernan Crespo, Julio Cruz and Javier Zanetti at the San Siro would make for a smooth transition to life in Serie A.

"Inter's team is like an Argentina colony," he added.

"I wouldn't have language issues at Inter."
http://www.sportinglife.com/footbal...occer/07/06/26/SOCCER_Tevez.html&TEAMHD=italy

edit: excellent timing for posting speculation about Tevez :lol

 

[Steroyd]

The **** do Inter want Tevez for?

 

[Lakitu]

I'm back, friends. My laptop is back and in working order, wahey.

 

[hadareud]

according to Wikipedia they only have 9 strikers at the moment. That's basically nothing

edit5: y6ay6, welcome back Lakit5u.

 

[Cornballer]

Have to see If i can catch some games from that. What time(s) are the matches on?

Uruguay vs. Peru is on at 6pm ET
Venezuela vs. Bolivia is on at 8:30 p.m. ET

I'm back, friends. My laptop is back and in working order, wahey.

 

[Shinobi]

The **** do Inter want Tevez for?

He's a striker...do the (Inter) math.

 

[h0pper]

lol, as most of you know, I support Inter over in Serie A, but Arsenal is my club and I'd much rather see him go to Arsenal. As much as I like Inter, I'd be disappointed to see him go there. They have enough strikers as it is and Arsenal is now in need of one.

This is where supporting more than one club gets you into some trouble ;x

But as I said, Arsenal is my priority and that's where I want Tevez to go!

 

[Ghost]

Uruguay vs. Peru is on at 6pm ET
Venezuela vs. Bolivia is on at 8:30 p.m. ET

so...11pm, 1:30am GMT? balls.

 

[psycho_snake]

The **** do Inter want Tevez for?

Inter are different to other clubs. There isnt such a thing as too many strikers for them. If you ask the manager "why buy another striker?", he'll just reply with "why not?"

 

[h0pper]

And what the hell? I just remembered that Inter got Suazo too lol. They need to calm down, get some backs or midfielders...Maybe even a keeper? amirite?

Julio Cesar really doesn't impress me very much. With the money they are dropping on forwards, I could see them being able to afford a world class keeper.

 

[h0pper]

Ghost, you are a WHU supporter?

 

[Cornballer]

so...11pm, 1:30am GMT? balls.

Yeah, you guys get screwed when it comes to most matches here in the Western hemisphere at night. Reminds me of the World Cup in Korea/Japan when everything was on in the middle of the night here in California. Oh well, if you have insomnia, you know where to tune your tv.

 

[psycho_snake]

I think they tried to get buffon, but couldnt get him.

 

[Ghost]

Ghost, you are a WHU supporter?

yep

 

[h0pper]

They actually asked my cousin to come and train with them a few years ago. Too bad he snapped his tibia in half in the semi-finals of the Long Island championship.

Right after that happened they dropped any interest. He can barely walk without a limp now and it's been about 5 years.

 

[Cornballer]

Sounds like the Beasley to Rangers deal is close to being completed. Sources are guessing £700,000 and a 3-4 year contract. I guess they'll unveil him later this week.

Spoiler

Here comes Falch with all of the celebration GIF's!

 

[Aisenherz]

lets debate our opinions then.

Van persie's goal scoring record hasnt been as impressive as some of the bayern strikers, but van persie has got unbelievable technique. When it comes to technique, van persie is superior to every bayern striker. Just watch his goals. You rarely see an average van persie goal. Toni and klose score plenty of average goals, but thats not a bad thing at all. Their job is to finish off chances and they've been doing that very well. Their goalscoring records are much better than van persie. Even though Van Persie doesnt score as much as those strikers, Id still choose him over the other strikers because he's younger and he's got more potential. Over the next few years van persie will be great. I dont think van persie will ever become a prolific goalscorer, but I think he can become a capable goalscorer who can be a big help to the rest of the team. He can assist just as much as he can score.

As for tevez, well he kept west ham out of relegation pretty much on his own. His performances in the last few weeks were unbelievable. At times it felt like he was heading his own crosses because he was doing everything. If United didnt have rooney then I would be desperate to see united buy him. Tevez has shown that he can make the difference.

Well, I (and million others) want strikers in my team, which can score as many goals as possilble. I give a damn about "nice looking goals" or "he can help a team out". A striker has to make goals and Klose, Toni and Makaay are one of the greatest out there for this job

 

[hadareud]

I am convinced that Van Persie can score more than 20 goals in the Premiership on a regular basis. In fact, he was on track to score as many goals as Drogba did this season until he got injured - and he wasn't even our main striker this year.

He will not score more than 30 goals in the league like Henry did, but there are very few that are capable of that.

He will also give you plenty of assists. At the time he got injured he was on track for 20 goals and 13 assists.

He does do his job quite well I would say.

edit: sorry, corrected the stats.

 

[cae]

The **** do Inter want Tevez for?

Inter is argentine mafia. They keep buying argies even if they don't need them. Don't ask me how or why. Adriano will prolly be kicked out or something.

 

[Cornballer]

Hey hadareud, do you have the technology to make GIF's from Youtube vids? There's one that I'd like if you've got some time...

 

[hadareud]

but of course. Which one would you like?