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Official Football Thread 2006/2007 (Soccer)
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Cornballer
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So Eboue is on a 3 match ban. Lovely.
Warnock weighs in....
Warnock weighs in....
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Cornballer
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I think they appealed just to keep him active for the Blackburn game.hadareud said:
Injury news for Saturday. Sheesh - still pretty banged up.
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Just speculating here based on what I've heard:Falch said:
Out: Rosicky, Diaby, Van Persie
Maybe: Henry, Flamini, Hoyte
Cornballer said:
That'd be nice for PSV, Arsenal not having Rosicky. He was the most dangerous midfielder in the first leg. Who'd be his replacement, Baptista? Or will he (or Aliadiere) play if Henry's not fit to start?
Anyway, PSV hasn't been in the winning mood either, we suffered the biggest defeat of the year yesterday away against NAC (3-0) for the KNVB Cup. Several PSV players didn't start though: Kromkamp, Cocu, Simons and Kone. Koeman thought it'd a good idea to bench those player to get some rest...:/
Cornballer
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I assume they'd put Hleb and Ljungberg on the wings if Rosicky can't play.Falch said:
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Warnock is a legend! He's the reason I want sheffield United to stay up.Lakitu said:
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Bellamy explained what happened in potugal. To sum it up, Bellamy wasnt happy with the ginger one because he didnt want to participate in the karaoke, so Bellamy hit riise with a golf club, as you do.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_1952957,00.html
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_1952957,00.html
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I don't know what the result will be. Liverpool's recent performances have been good and United's haven't (even though they've been winning). And Liverpool are strong at home, so on the face of it they'd be the team to back. But I'm sure the United players know how important this game could be, so it might be time for them to return to form.
Despite what some at Chelsea are saying, a Man Utd loss wouldn't be the end of their title chances. Even if they lost and Chelsea won their games in hand and Chelsea beat them in that remaning fixture between the two, United should still be ahead thanks to a goal difference that is highly unlikely to be overhauled (they're 17 ahead). And it's not like Chelsea themselves are without other games where they could drop points, they have Tottneham, Bolton and Arsenal still to come.
I would say if United win tomorrow, the title is basically theirs. If they draw, I'd say they're no nearer or further away from the title than they already were. And if they lose, it'd become a bit more tricky but I'd still have them as favourites.
Despite what some at Chelsea are saying, a Man Utd loss wouldn't be the end of their title chances. Even if they lost and Chelsea won their games in hand and Chelsea beat them in that remaning fixture between the two, United should still be ahead thanks to a goal difference that is highly unlikely to be overhauled (they're 17 ahead). And it's not like Chelsea themselves are without other games where they could drop points, they have Tottneham, Bolton and Arsenal still to come.
I would say if United win tomorrow, the title is basically theirs. If they draw, I'd say they're no nearer or further away from the title than they already were. And if they lose, it'd become a bit more tricky but I'd still have them as favourites.
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It's on like Donkey Kong....
My videos - let me show them to you.Reuters said:
psycho_snake said:
:lol :lol :lol
Good on Wenger for sticking to his guns...it's absolutely laughable that in a game that refuses to adopt video replay, that we get punished after the fact for things that didn't even show up in a video review, yet the other team gets away with doing stuff that showed up in the same video. **** the FA...at some point you've gotta put your feet down and stand your ground.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Hughes has chimed in now, claiming Wenger just wanted to deflect attention away from the FA Cup defeat.
I don't think other managers should really be talking about this. I mean, maybe you could make a case for Hughes, comments were made right after the Blackburn match, but even then I'd just say I didn't want to discuss the matter. I realise most of the time they're not just coming out and saying it, journalists are asking about it at general conferences before games, but it's not difficult to not comment.
Of course, I know full well why Stuart Pearce backed the FA, he's gagging to be England manager someday.
Speaking of video replays, for goals at least we might see something soon. Blatter, who's always been against it, has said it might be time to go with it. The mentioned technologies are Hawk-Eye, cameras in the goalmouth and a ball which senses when it passes the line.
The latter has been trialed for a while now and isn't reliable. It's a shame, because that would be perfect, it would just beep in the ref's ear when it went in and he'd signal a goal, absolutely no time delay.
I don't know much about the goalmouth cameras, but I don't much like the idea. Surely one smack with the ball could break them. And what if players are standing in the way, or the goal is shaking because the ball has hit the post? I don't like the idea.
I don't know how well known hawk-eye is, but it's widely used in cricket and tennis. Not for actual calls in cricket yet, just for TV coverage. Basically it has cameras set up in various places and computers track the ball in realtime, throwing up a digital recreation which can be moved to any angle to see what the call should be. Looks like this:
and the camera then zooms up to an overhead view to see whether the ball touched the line or not.
It works remarkably quickly. Watching tennis, it come up within like 5 seconds. If they can get it accurate, it's perfect. Problem is, sometimes it makes decisions which everyone agrees are wrong. The technology will improve of course, but it might not be ready yet.
So that's the problem. The two technologies I like most aren't 100% reliable (though I'd argue they're still more reliable than refs/linesmen looking at it from poor angles).
Could just use cameras, but they're not likely to be anymore conclusive, have problems with views being blocked and will definitely take time to check. Maybe not much time, but 30 seconds or so.
And you can't just stop the game to check. You can if the ball's gone out, or there's been a foul, but that's all. You can't even stop to check if the goalkeeper has the ball in his grasp, you're denying him the chance to set his team off on a quick counter attack.
So if you have to wait until the ball goes dead to check. There are problems though. What if the other team scores before the ball goes dead, then they go back and check and the first question goal counted? Do they deny the second goal because the first went in and none of that play afterwards should have happened? You could say yes, but what if it's not a case of goal being scored before the ball goes dead? What if it's a case of violent conduct and a player getting sent off? Does that count even if the goal is given earlier? You can't just let the player off, but it's the same argument that denies the other team a later goal...that wouldn't have happened if the earliest goal had counted. So do you now have to allow red cards and other goals? Are both goals allowed?
There's lots to work out.
I don't think other managers should really be talking about this. I mean, maybe you could make a case for Hughes, comments were made right after the Blackburn match, but even then I'd just say I didn't want to discuss the matter. I realise most of the time they're not just coming out and saying it, journalists are asking about it at general conferences before games, but it's not difficult to not comment.
Of course, I know full well why Stuart Pearce backed the FA, he's gagging to be England manager someday.
Speaking of video replays, for goals at least we might see something soon. Blatter, who's always been against it, has said it might be time to go with it. The mentioned technologies are Hawk-Eye, cameras in the goalmouth and a ball which senses when it passes the line.
The latter has been trialed for a while now and isn't reliable. It's a shame, because that would be perfect, it would just beep in the ref's ear when it went in and he'd signal a goal, absolutely no time delay.
I don't know much about the goalmouth cameras, but I don't much like the idea. Surely one smack with the ball could break them. And what if players are standing in the way, or the goal is shaking because the ball has hit the post? I don't like the idea.
I don't know how well known hawk-eye is, but it's widely used in cricket and tennis. Not for actual calls in cricket yet, just for TV coverage. Basically it has cameras set up in various places and computers track the ball in realtime, throwing up a digital recreation which can be moved to any angle to see what the call should be. Looks like this:
and the camera then zooms up to an overhead view to see whether the ball touched the line or not.
It works remarkably quickly. Watching tennis, it come up within like 5 seconds. If they can get it accurate, it's perfect. Problem is, sometimes it makes decisions which everyone agrees are wrong. The technology will improve of course, but it might not be ready yet.
So that's the problem. The two technologies I like most aren't 100% reliable (though I'd argue they're still more reliable than refs/linesmen looking at it from poor angles).
Could just use cameras, but they're not likely to be anymore conclusive, have problems with views being blocked and will definitely take time to check. Maybe not much time, but 30 seconds or so.
And you can't just stop the game to check. You can if the ball's gone out, or there's been a foul, but that's all. You can't even stop to check if the goalkeeper has the ball in his grasp, you're denying him the chance to set his team off on a quick counter attack.
So if you have to wait until the ball goes dead to check. There are problems though. What if the other team scores before the ball goes dead, then they go back and check and the first question goal counted? Do they deny the second goal because the first went in and none of that play afterwards should have happened? You could say yes, but what if it's not a case of goal being scored before the ball goes dead? What if it's a case of violent conduct and a player getting sent off? Does that count even if the goal is given earlier? You can't just let the player off, but it's the same argument that denies the other team a later goal...that wouldn't have happened if the earliest goal had counted. So do you now have to allow red cards and other goals? Are both goals allowed?
There's lots to work out.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
West Ham could be in troule because of the argentinian duo's signings. If you want to read all the details, its here, but its basically about Wast ham not owning the players registration, which is a breach of league regulations. For doing so, West Ham could have points taken off them and if thats the case then west ham are doomed for certain. West ham say tyheyhavce the paperwork to prove that there isnt anywthing wrong with the deal, but most people would be surprised if that is the case.
This has been a Wenger flaw since the start and everyonebut arsenal fans know it (and some of them probably know it deep down) - Wenger is a bit of a prick.
Always whinging and moaning, his teams play great football but for the most part are the poorest behaved bunch of prats you'll see in the English game. They looked to try and improve after they got loads of abuse, but the latest incidents just reveal their true colours.
Ironic thing is they have long been the darlings of the Southern biased FA and the London press, especially with David Dein involved.
For the first time ever I hope Arsenal get perhaps a tad more then a slap on the wrist.
Always whinging and moaning, his teams play great football but for the most part are the poorest behaved bunch of prats you'll see in the English game. They looked to try and improve after they got loads of abuse, but the latest incidents just reveal their true colours.
Ironic thing is they have long been the darlings of the Southern biased FA and the London press, especially with David Dein involved.
For the first time ever I hope Arsenal get perhaps a tad more then a slap on the wrist.
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Not being afraid to speak out is a flaw now? God I find your posts irritating.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_6410000/newsid_6412700/6412737.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm#
:lol
everybody should watch Wengers press conference, he seems slightly, well, irate. I am a bit scared myself now :lol
I still find it good that he's sticking to what he's said and building on it. Nobody should be scared to speak his mind only because the FA can't take criticism. The fines they hand out against managers stink of hypocrisy and fear.
:lol
everybody should watch Wengers press conference, he seems slightly, well, irate. I am a bit scared myself now :lol
I still find it good that he's sticking to what he's said and building on it. Nobody should be scared to speak his mind only because the FA can't take criticism. The fines they hand out against managers stink of hypocrisy and fear.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Liverpool vs United starts in an hour and a half. I cant wait for the game. reagrdless what happens i think its going to be one of the best games we'll see this season. There is a lot at stake today. Its fair to say that If United win this game, then we've got one firm hand on the trophy. Im sure the players know just how important this game is, so the United players will give it all they've got to make sure that they can get that 12 point lead, and Liverpool will try to stop United from doing it. We wont win the title at anfield, but we will take opne big step towards it. if we today it would be our title to lose. The only way chelsea can win is if we shoot ourselves in the foot and drop points against the smaller teams.
We've been quite poor in our last few games, but I doubt we will play like we have done against fulham today, its just too important to have a poor game. This is the type of game where we need rooney to rise to the occasion and do something special. I reckon ronaldo will find it tough. He's getting used to the jeering from oppositions fans, but pool fans will take the booing one step further.
Im not sure what will happen. United have got more to play for than Liverpool, so its either going to be a draw or a United win. If we do win, I hope either rooney, ronaldo or neville score, preferrably neville. Pool pans have given him so much shit over the years.
We've been quite poor in our last few games, but I doubt we will play like we have done against fulham today, its just too important to have a poor game. This is the type of game where we need rooney to rise to the occasion and do something special. I reckon ronaldo will find it tough. He's getting used to the jeering from oppositions fans, but pool fans will take the booing one step further.
Im not sure what will happen. United have got more to play for than Liverpool, so its either going to be a draw or a United win. If we do win, I hope either rooney, ronaldo or neville score, preferrably neville. Pool pans have given him so much shit over the years.
I'm really looking forward to this game, COME ON YOU REDS! Team news should follow soon... and I think Liverpool have much to play for including pride and the fact we're fighting for a Champions League place (mainly 3rd). I think both teams will go at it and not settle for a draw, which is why I think it'll be one of the best matches this season too. Bore draws suck.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
First half is over. Liverpool have been the better team. Riise's free-kick was ****ing close. he hit it so well even though the player that passed the ball to him did a bad pass. He got so much power on it whilst his body was positioned over the ball. Bellamy has done really well so far, he's walking all over vidic. Everytime Vidic has to defend against bellamy, he screws up because bellamy is just too quick for him.
man Utd have been ok. We've had a lot of possession but its been for small amounts of time. We've got the ball up the field and ojn the edge of liverpools box, but then we cant do anything with it. Ronaldo's had our best chance and that wasnt even very good; it went over. It looked like we could have scored near the end of the first half, but Carragher did some bloody good defending. He ackled ronaldo then ran across the box to tackle rooney. It was frustrating to see that happen, but its difficult not to admire the determination that carragher had.
man Utd have been ok. We've had a lot of possession but its been for small amounts of time. We've got the ball up the field and ojn the edge of liverpools box, but then we cant do anything with it. Ronaldo's had our best chance and that wasnt even very good; it went over. It looked like we could have scored near the end of the first half, but Carragher did some bloody good defending. He ackled ronaldo then ran across the box to tackle rooney. It was frustrating to see that happen, but its difficult not to admire the determination that carragher had.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
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celestial body
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Not a shot for the whole of the second half and then one direct freekick...unbelievable. They've got to win it this year.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
As soon as we got that free kick I knew that we would score. I actually dont believe that we just one. Liverpool were all over us. Oh well I dont give a shit, we won!
but rooney injured, scholes 3 match ban. overall well worth itMama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
:lol You lucky, lucky bastards United! Last four games, you've either been outplayed or been well below your best and no better than the other side, and have won all of them by one goal margins.
Really fun game I thought. That's been a good thing about the Premiership this year, the games between the top sides have been entertaining. In the last couple of years that generally hasn't been the case, but we're back to the sort of games we used to see.
God Liverpool need that top finisher *coughshouldhavegotOwenwhenyouhadthechancecough*. I don't care what it takes, I don't care if they have to spend 2/3 of their massive transfer budget to get the guy, they need Eto'o, Villa or Trezeguet (or someone else I'm forgetting). No point going after players like Iaquinta, he's decent, but you already have decent strikers.
I point and laugh at Chelsea fans, who are probably more crushed than the Liverpoolers at the moment. Shame Solid stopped posting here (in this topic, I see him post elsewhere)...coincidence that there are no Chelsea fans commenting this season? HMMMMMM.
Only downside for United is Scholes and Rooney. Rooney didn't look too bad, though who knows if he'll be back in time for Lille even with a minor injury, but Scholes getting himself banned for 3 games in the 85th minute when it wasn't even a dangerous position is just stupid. Happy to say he'll miss the Blackburn game, but I imagine United will just move Giggs into the centre with Park and Ronaldo on the wings. They have O'Shea and Fletcher too, shouldn't hurt them too much, but it might have if they hadn't grabbed that goal.
Really fun game I thought. That's been a good thing about the Premiership this year, the games between the top sides have been entertaining. In the last couple of years that generally hasn't been the case, but we're back to the sort of games we used to see.
God Liverpool need that top finisher *coughshouldhavegotOwenwhenyouhadthechancecough*. I don't care what it takes, I don't care if they have to spend 2/3 of their massive transfer budget to get the guy, they need Eto'o, Villa or Trezeguet (or someone else I'm forgetting). No point going after players like Iaquinta, he's decent, but you already have decent strikers.
I point and laugh at Chelsea fans, who are probably more crushed than the Liverpoolers at the moment. Shame Solid stopped posting here (in this topic, I see him post elsewhere)...coincidence that there are no Chelsea fans commenting this season? HMMMMMM.
Only downside for United is Scholes and Rooney. Rooney didn't look too bad, though who knows if he'll be back in time for Lille even with a minor injury, but Scholes getting himself banned for 3 games in the 85th minute when it wasn't even a dangerous position is just stupid. Happy to say he'll miss the Blackburn game, but I imagine United will just move Giggs into the centre with Park and Ronaldo on the wings. They have O'Shea and Fletcher too, shouldn't hurt them too much, but it might have if they hadn't grabbed that goal.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I dont think that rooney will be injured for that long, his knee will be bruised but I dont think its anything more serious than that. It will be a big problem if he is out for a long time because Larsson goes on march 12, which will leave us with saha. Scholes suspension is a concern too because we dont have much back-up in midfield and our next three games are middlesborough away in the fa cup, then blackburn and bolton in the league. We can cope without scholes for the borough game, vbut against blackburn and bolton we could really do with having scholes in the team.
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psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
We have been riding our luck for a while, but all league winning teams have this. When we won the treble, we scored so many late goals and had decisions go our way. the same goes with chelsea for the last 2 seasosn. they've scored plenty of late goals, deflected goals and they've had the beenfit of the doubt in most refereeing decisions. Its frustrating to see teams get that luck, especially when its undeserved, but its those lucky moments that make the difference between being champions and being a runner up.Mama Smurf said:
I do sympathise with lakitu and the other lIveropool fans, but at the end of the day you've got to look at your teams failure for not taking their chances. Liverpool had more than enough opportunities to beat us by a big score, but you didnt convert any of them. Crouch's shot was the only shot that you couldnt have done better with, Van der sar did an unbelievable save. But every other chance Liverpool could have done better from. Gerrards chance easrly in the 2nd half is a perfect example of that. You would expect gerrard to bury that shot, yet he hit it wide.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Solskjaer is out for 4 weeks, so you really better hope Rooney isn't injured.
You wouldn't be left with just Saha though, Smith's not injured is he? Not ideal, but a hell of a lot better than having one striker.
You wouldn't be left with just Saha though, Smith's not injured is he? Not ideal, but a hell of a lot better than having one striker.
celestial body
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Isn't solskjear out for a while after a knee operation? That leaves just Rooney and Saha up front bu they have had Ronaldo pushed further forward a few times this year, so that's an option. Oh yeah Smith...
BatiGOOOOOOL
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Holy crap! What a HUUUUUUGE goal by O'shea. That might be the title right there. Ronaldo and Giggs took the right decision on the FK, because if Giggs took it from that position, it would've probably ended up in nothing.
Oh yeah, Saha was clearly brought down by Agger. What a shitty ref, he was so close.
Oh yeah, Saha was clearly brought down by Agger. What a shitty ref, he was so close.
MrPing1000
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Mama Smurf said:
Yep Ole out until end of month, Larsson leaves after middlesbrough in the cup. Smith is fit again but needs games.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Shit i forgot about Ole being injured. If rooney is iunjured seriously, which looks unlikely, then we are screwed. Smith is available, but he really lacks match fitness and we are not in a position where we can play smith so that he regains his fitness. Maybe fergie is still trying to convince Larsson to stay. There is a lot at stake for us and he would be a really helpful addition. He's said that he's going to go, but having him could make a big difference.
"Rooney's injury is just a cut on his leg. How bad can it possibly be anyway?"
if you have ever pld football that was not "just a cut", looked really bad, very high tackle.
quote from skysports
"Rooney leaving the field with a badly gashed knee, courtesy of Carragher's high challenge."
looks bad, I see him missing the Lille Champions League match
if you have ever pld football that was not "just a cut", looked really bad, very high tackle.
quote from skysports
"Rooney leaving the field with a badly gashed knee, courtesy of Carragher's high challenge."
looks bad, I see him missing the Lille Champions League match
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
You have the Dong guy too now he has a work permit. He did very well in Belgium, and I doubt Ferguson wanted to introduce him this season but if the situation is dire then he's an option.
ElyrionX said:
Exactly what I thought. :lol Once again United get outplayed but pinch a win at the death. But this is what championship winning teams do, as psycho said. Hell, even the Invincibles of '04 had to scrape a few victories out to keep Man U behind us. Which is why Jose's bemoaning of United's luck was so ****ing rich. I'm sure he'll be bitching about it again later today.
I was rooting for a draw in that game myself...I want Man U to win the league, but I have a bit of a soft spot for Liverpool these days and figured they deserved at least a draw after getting clowned by Man U for years. That said it's the best result for the Gunners...now we've got a chance to grab third place with a couple games in hand.
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