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I want it but I will not buy the first retail release.
They will probably release a Platinum version with all the DLC inclided... If not... The retail release will be 60% cheaper in a few months.
 
nubbe said:
I want it but I will not buy the first retail release.
They will probably release a Platinum version with all the DLC inclided... If not... The retail release will be 60% cheaper in a few months.

Yep...especially since the excitement on this one is relatively less. Think CoD3, which dropped 30-40% a couple of months after release
 
Shogmaster said:
I posted in a wrong thread previously, but must be repeated:

I don't think I'm buying GRAW 2 anymore after playing the multiplayer demo. Lack of heat vision = BS trial and error find the terrorists blending in the scenery nightmare. And that new night vision is basically blind your ass with HDR vision if you use it during the day time, IN WHICH YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO. It's fvcing complete shit now. I CAN'T FVCKING SEE ANY ENEMIES!!! And the P v P multiplayer is now nothing but campfest. OOOH LOOKY, IF I DON'T MOVE YOU CAN'T SEE ME 10 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU SO I CAMP HERE ALL STILL ALL DAY! FUUUUUUUUUCK!

Ubi, fix this shit ASAP or none my GRAW 1 crew ain't giving you any money for GRAW 2 (and we are people who gladly gave you $15 for the expansion pack).

Just curious... why did you guys buy the expansion pak if you already hated the online play?
 
Treo360 said:
Yeah I'm going to change that for a funny one

You know I think I saw what one may consider funny back in the first gulf war days. I don't think it was a helicopter, but same targeting image thingamabob. Essentially they are targeting this bridge with a laser guided bomb I guess, and this car drives across, RIGHT THROUGH THE CROSSHAIR, and continues on. 10 seconds later, the driver sees the bridge blow up in his rear view mirror.
 
Shogmaster said:
I posted in a wrong thread previously, but must be repeated:

I don't think I'm buying GRAW 2 anymore after playing the multiplayer demo. Lack of heat vision = BS trial and error find the terrorists blending in the scenery nightmare. And that new night vision is basically blind your ass with HDR vision if you use it during the day time, IN WHICH YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO. It's fvcing complete shit now. I CAN'T FVCKING SEE ANY ENEMIES!!! And the P v P multiplayer is now nothing but campfest. OOOH LOOKY, IF I DON'T MOVE YOU CAN'T SEE ME 10 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU SO I CAMP HERE ALL STILL ALL DAY! FUUUUUUUUUCK!

Ubi, fix this shit ASAP or none my GRAW 1 crew ain't giving you any money for GRAW 2 (and we are people who gladly gave you $15 for the expansion pack).
raise the brightness. It's set at 0 by default. I couldn't see shit on my hdtv until I raised it to 6.
 
Treo360 said:
Wow Shog, this game is def not for you, seems you'll be better suited for a more run and gun type affair. GRAW is not run and gun at all, and yes camping is the way to play this game along with communication with your teammates. I can not stress that point enough.


GRAW is not a run a gun affair, as for the lack of heat vision, I'll be sure to contact the ARMY and complain that I was robbed of this when I crewed Black Hawks and when I was sent on foot patrol. How dare they! Different environments require different tools, GRAW 2 takes place in hot and sometimes arid locations, which will grossly affect your IR imaging device. I for one am glad they got rid of that monstrosity they called NVG, it was a cheap system. SP campaign IR imaging device shits on GRAW 1's version of it (think an AH-64 Apache FLIR imaging)


GRAW is not run and gun.


GAF Clan for those interested is NEOGAF Regulars.

With that I'm off to enjoy the rest of my Birthday.


Hey Blackhawk! Happy Birthday.... Yeah, I'll get the game this week, and try to put it in the rotation with Chromehounds. It will be sporadic though, depending on the time available and the quality time needed to spend with my wife....

It is a very delicate equation to keep the wife happy, and the 360 simultaneously
 
Treo360 said:
Wow Shog, this game is def not for you, seems you'll be better suited for a more run and gun type affair. GRAW is not run and gun at all, and yes camping is the way to play this game along with communication with your teammates. I can not stress that point enough.


GRAW is not a run a gun affair, as for the lack of heat vision, I'll be sure to contact the ARMY and complain that I was robbed of this when I crewed Black Hawks and when I was sent on foot patrol. How dare they! Different environments require different tools, GRAW 2 takes place in hot and sometimes arid locations, which will grossly affect your IR imaging device. I for one am glad they got rid of that monstrosity they called NVG, it was a cheap system. SP campaign IR imaging device shits on GRAW 1's version of it (think an AH-64 Apache FLIR imaging)


GRAW is not run and gun.


GAF Clan for those interested is NEOGAF Regulars.

Don't tell me what GRAW is and isn't. I played the shit out of GRAW 1, and I ****ing owned all comers on it. I AM FVCKING GRAW BITCH! :P

Seriously, I am a hardcore GRAW vet. I played that game for 4 months straight without a break with a tight knit group. And trust me when I say that if you want to own the fvcker with more aggressive tactics, you most definitely can. And I did. I consistantly lead the scoreboard of just about every game I played. If you were a cheese fvcker camping out in the bushes or around the corner, I fvcking owned you left and right in that game. And I did that with the aid of the thermal vision. The faint glow of the enemy was all but necessary if you didn't want to play camping pussy tactics in alot of the maps where things were dark. Now the game is nothing but a pussy camp fest thanks to the missing thermal vision.

Fvck the campers. Motherfvck 'em to hell cause I ain't playing no camp-fest.


Mr.Potato Head said:
Just curious... why did you guys buy the expansion pak if you already hated the online play?

You didn't read it right. I said we all loved the online play of the original. So much so that we all bought the expansion pack. But all of us had the same reaction to the GRAW2 MP demo: We can't see shit without the thermo vision of the original. The new night vision does NOTHING to improve enemy detection during the daytime campaigns (it actually makes things harder to detect due to HDR overload).

Basically, we all want the thermal vision back or no sale.
 
Shogmaster said:
You didn't read it right. I said we all loved the online play of the original. So much so that we all bought the expansion pack. But all of us had the same reaction to the GRAW2 MP demo: We can't see shit without the thermo vision of the original. The new night vision does NOTHING to improve enemy detection during the daytime campaigns (it actually makes things harder to detect due to HDR overload).

Basically, we all want the thermal vision back or no sale.


You're missing the point Shog, it was a broken system, that should have never been used in a tactical shooter in the first place. I for one welcome this system as it strives for a more realistic approach. NVG's are not for enemy detection and should be used only in aiding you in seeing in the dark.
 
Treo360 said:
You're missing the point Shog, it was a broken system, that should have never been used in a tactical shooter in the first place. I for one welcome this system as it strives for a more realistic approach. NVG's are not for enemy detection and should be used only in aiding you in seeing in the dark.

It's a fvcking video game. You either camp or you don't. Thermal vision made it so that it wasn't just a camp-fest. It certainly didn't break shit. In fact, lack of it is breaking shit left and right.

For instance, we spent hours last night trying to finish that one map in campaign mode, but we always got ambushed by some hawk vision having Mexican super soldier blending in the fvcking background. That's just BS. I can't see them until they start shooting my ass but they can see me fine. So it became a tedious trial and error nightmare. We literally couldn't get the job done under the 10 minute limit. That's just not fun, and stupid.

The game is fvcking called Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter, not Ghost Recon I can't see shit Warfighter. Thermal vision is advanced warfighting. Night vision is just gimpy broken game.
 
I couldn't go to Blim's place today in order to record all the GRAW2 HD stuff we promised you, but nevertheless I've captured two "10 first minutes" in SD, from the very beggining of the game and from the first real mission. Even if it's not HD, graphically it's a blast. Lighting is incredible, and the game is very polished, runs at a steady 30fps.

The only thing that bothers me, gameplay-wise, is that areas still seem too much limited. I really hope it gets better in the later levels. With all the cross-com gameplay allowing you to control teams and stuff from far away, levels really feels like small playgrounds at the moment, but again, I'm just starting the campaign.

Anyway, files are uploading right now. You'll have to wait another day for our HD footage, if nobody does it before.
 
Shogmaster said:
It's a fvcking video game. You either camp or you don't. Thermal vision made it so that it wasn't just a camp-fest. It certainly didn't break shit. In fact, lack of it is breaking shit left and right.

For instance, we spent hours last night trying to finish that one map in campaign mode, but we always got ambushed by some hawk vision having Mexican super soldier blending in the fvcking background. That's just BS. I can't see them until they start shooting my ass but they can see me fine. So it became a tedious trial and error nightmare. We literally couldn't get the job done under the 10 minute limit. That's just not fun, and stupid.

The game is fvcking called Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter, not Ghost Recon I can't see shit Warfighter. Thermal vision is advanced warfighting. Night vision is just gimpy broken game.


Edit: N/M

Opinions are non-debatable.
 
snoopers said:
I couldn't go to Blim's place today in order to record all the GRAW2 HD stuff we promised you, but nevertheless I've captured two "10 first minutes" in SD, from the very beggining of the game and from the first real mission. Even if it's not HD, graphically it's a blast. Lighting is incredible, and the game is very polished, runs at a steady 30fps.

The only thing that bothers me, gameplay-wise, is that areas still seem too much limited. I really hope it gets better in the later levels. With all the cross-com gameplay allowing you to control teams and stuff from far away, levels really feels like small playgrounds at the moment, but again, I'm just starting the campaign.

Anyway, files are uploading right now. You'll have to wait another day for our HD footage, if nobody does it before.


Snoopers, wait until you get to Juarez.
 
snoopers said:
I couldn't go to Blim's place today in order to record all the GRAW2 HD stuff we promised you, but nevertheless I've captured two "10 first minutes" in SD, from the very beggining of the game and from the first real mission. Even if it's not HD, graphically it's a blast. Lighting is incredible, and the game is very polished, runs at a steady 30fps.

The only thing that bothers me, gameplay-wise, is that areas still seem too much limited. I really hope it gets better in the later levels. With all the cross-com gameplay allowing you to control teams and stuff from far away, levels really feels like small playgrounds at the moment, but again, I'm just starting the campaign.

Anyway, files are uploading right now. You'll have to wait another day for our HD footage, if nobody does it before.

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I can't emphasis enough on how good light looks in this game:

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That second pic reminds me alot of the resi 5 trailer. Im in two minds about this, i didnt really get on with graw mp and i thought the sp was good but flawed. Having played the both demos it really is more of the same isnt it.
 
supermackem said:
That second pic reminds me alot of the resi 5 trailer. Im in two minds about this, i didnt really get on with graw mp and i thought the sp was good but flawed. Having played the both demos it really is more of the same isnt it.

The fullscreen cross-com feature that you can use on teams, vehicles and UAV, and allows you to give order without even being there, it really changed it all for me. I tried to show it in the second video (first mission on the game) but I guess it's still nothing compared to what you should be able to do later in the game. It doesn't really change the game itself, but the way you can approach each scene, it gives a better and deeper control on what you're doing and how you're doing it. And when it came to control Graw1 wasn't that much of a reference. So, no, as far as I'm concerned, it's definitely not the same.
 
snoopers said:
The fullscreen cross-com feature that you can use on teams, vehicles and UAV, and allows you to give order without even being there, it really changed it all for me. I tried to show it in the second video (first mission on the game) but I guess it's still nothing compared to what you should be able to do later in the game. It doesn't really change the game itself, but the way you can approach each scene, it gives a better and deeper control on what you're doing and how you're doing it. And when it came to control Graw1 wasn't that much of a reference. So, no, as far as I'm concerned, it's definitely not the same.


You can actually plan your missions (sorta speaking) GRAW 2 is a lot less linear in the way that you can approach certain engagements. Crosscom 2.0 is a def winner.

Snoopers, I can't wait until you get to the night missions so that you can take some screen grabs of the new Flir mode. Digicam pictures just don't do it justice.
 
Shogmaster said:
It's a fvcking video game. You either camp or you don't. Thermal vision made it so that it wasn't just a camp-fest. It certainly didn't break shit. In fact, lack of it is breaking shit left and right.

For instance, we spent hours last night trying to finish that one map in campaign mode, but we always got ambushed by some hawk vision having Mexican super soldier blending in the fvcking background. That's just BS. I can't see them until they start shooting my ass but they can see me fine. So it became a tedious trial and error nightmare. We literally couldn't get the job done under the 10 minute limit. That's just not fun, and stupid.

The game is fvcking called Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter, not Ghost Recon I can't see shit Warfighter. Thermal vision is advanced warfighting. Night vision is just gimpy broken game.


Nice, GR is attempting to be more realistic in the way you go about playing. If you were really a soldier, and you attempted the tactics you employ in GR, I'd be taking your dog tags back to your family and saying sorry. The game is MEANT to be a slower, methodical, think about what you do game and you b!tch about "camping". Awesome, I guess you probably complained about the original Sonic because it was too fast? I mean, Mario taught you that you don't go that fast. Gimme a break.
 
No WMV version, Blim? :(

Surprising lack of interest in this game on these boards. I wonder if it's indicative of a broader apathy towards the game (too soon?0 or if it's just a reflection of the tastes of users on this board.
 
JB1981 said:
No WMV version, Blim? :(

Surprising lack of interest in this game on these boards. I wonder if it's indicative of a broader apathy towards the game (too soon?0 or if it's just a reflection of the tastes of users on this board.
Sorry, Snoopers has a lot of trouble finding his way to my home to record a 720p version. Hopefully on Wednesday :(
 
Mixed feelings about the demo. Movement is sluggish and after GoW and R6, I can't really play a slow third person shooter without a cover system now. It feels so weird and unnatural.

Weapons and the maps are cool and everything, but both R6 and GRAW are still too fresh in my memory. I'll get it when it's €30.
 
snoopers said:
I can't emphasis enough on how good light looks in this game:


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Man thats like right out of the RE5 trailer, just not as good as the cg of course. But damn the game looks good. Though something seems weird with the contast, the blacks look grey. Washed out almost. Maybe it's my monitor.
 
Dina said:
Mixed feelings about the demo. Movement is sluggish and after GoW and R6, I can't really play a slow third person shooter without a cover system now. It feels so weird and unnatural.

Weapons and the maps are cool and everything, but both R6 and GRAW are still too fresh in my memory. I'll get it when it's €30.

Odd. I felt the demo destroyed Vegas, especially visually. Dunno what you mean about the cover system. All 3 have one.
 
Ok. These videos are awesome. Game is bought. Thx for the videos, Blim

The AI really looks much improved and the new cross-com system is fantastic. Wow @ C4-charged explosions!
 
bob_arctor said:
Odd. I felt the demo destroyed Vegas, especially visually. Dunno what you mean about the cover system. All 3 have one.

Just fired up GRAW2MP demo to check and the cover system was shut off. Yes, it's there in SP, but a big part of the fun of GRAW was the multiplayer part, same with R6Vegas. Without the cover system in MP, I really feel like you're missing something.

Visually, you're right, it blows both the original GRAW and R6 out of the water, but it doesn't bring a lot of new, interesting things to the table. Cross-cam is a nice touch, but it doesn't warrant the full price. At least for me it doesn't.
 
i thought the demo was a huge improvement. gave me everything i wanted ontop of hte first game. I'm buying for sure! no other games at the moment.
 
so is there reviews up for this yet?

it has a 54.99 preorder at amazon that is kinda tempting, but need some impressions. I would love to hear that the SP campaign was double the length of GRAW's...
 
AgentOtaku said:
so is there reviews up for this yet?

it has a 54.99 preorder at amazon that is kinda tempting, but need some impressions. I would love to hear that the SP campaign was double the length of GRAW's...


Wishful thinking especially considering GRAWs and the Rainbow 6 campaign. 7-8 hours seems to be their target mark for the 1p campaign.... Especially since this is being pumped out only 1 year after the first one....
 
AgentOtaku said:
so is there reviews up for this yet?

it has a 54.99 preorder at amazon that is kinda tempting, but need some impressions. I would love to hear that the SP campaign was double the length of GRAW's...

Just a reminder, if you have a Circuit City close, they're having a launch day sale for this for 49.99.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
What day do they consider launch?

Actually, that's a good question. My add says here in-store by Wednesday PM. It says introductory price actually, so I'm not for certain if that is just one-day only or what, but I'm guessing Wednesday?
 
Jtyettis said:
Actually, that's a good question. My add says here in-store by Wednesday PM. It says introductory price actually, so I'm not for certain if that is just one-day only or what, but I'm guessing Wednesday?

I just checked the site. The ad says 2PM Wednesday.
 
AgentOtaku said:
so is there reviews up for this yet?

it has a 54.99 preorder at amazon that is kinda tempting, but need some impressions. I would love to hear that the SP campaign was double the length of GRAW's...


SP is broken up into 3 chapters and one training chapter (you can skip this though) If you've played GR before I suggest that you play this on Unrestricted mode, every other mode is waaay too easy (for me that is) The campaign is about 6-8 maybe 10 hours max, and sadly there is one mission that reminds me a bit too much of R6:V, not going to spoil it though, but if you've played R6 you'll see.

UBI seems to have dumbed down the difficulty (even in Ur mode) when playing the Air assault missions. I remember there were times in GRAW 1 were I wanted to throw my controller at the TV because the A.I. was too good and shot you rather quickly in the Helo missions. Well, in GRAW 2 I made it through the all the Helo missions without getting hit once, this is better, but at the same time seems a bit cheap (damned if you do . . .)

The auto-cover system is still annoying, as you will find yourself getting stuck on walls etc.

Graphics? You've seen the screen shots, then you've seen what the game is like, especially when you fly over Juarez, truly destroyed beauty (whatever that phrase Cliffy B used)


But here's the big question, the $60 question. Is it worth it?

My impressions suck, I know that they do, I just don't have the patience to get into full detail. GRAW 2 is a visual improvement over it's past iteration, and with Cross Com 2.0 there are some great new additions, you actually feel like you have a squad that you can control.

I love the GR series played it while I was in the Army religiously, on the xbox and 360. For previous owners though, it's not worth $60 based on SP alone

Newcomers and those who like tactical shooters that didn't buy last year's version will appreciate the SP campaign.



I feel that this game will receive a 8.0 with ± 3 and if you don't like the number scale I give this game a $49.99 based on SP alone


Edit: I incorrectly labeled the difficulty. It should read:

Low
Guarded
&
Elevated Risk
 
What wouldn't I give to see the weapons in FPS mode as opposed to third person. UBIsoft disappoints me when it comes to that on the consoles. For some reason they feel it okay to show them in the Rainbow 6 series.

I might double dip and get this on the PC as well.
 
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