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Official Metal Gear Solid 4 Gameplay Demonstration YES YES ALL OVER MY OCTOCAM

Bebpo said:
On the way home from work I made my final analysis of what's been shown and constructed my final guess at the plot. I'm probably 99% wrong, but it'd be neat if I actually could read Kojima's mind :D

Snake + Meryl + Raiden + Octacon

VS.

Liquid + Eva + Vamp + Naomi


Japan loooooves parallels and with this returning cast we have it in spades:

Snake vs. Liquid fight = no brainer, twins (somewhat because of how ocelot plays in),
Meryl vs. Eva fight = the two lovers of the two Snakes. Both are strong women who can handle a pistol.
Vamp vs. Raiden fight = Two weird super-human people that help out their boss.
Octacon vs. Naomi fight = Well I doubt either will fight in person. But they are the two scientific backers. Otacon helping Snake on his mission and Naomi helping Liquid do his mission.

Also it almost makes sense how these people would split:
Vamp = Liquid is following Solidus's footsteps to go against the patriots. Vamp follows.
Eva = Liquid is a clone of her lover, Big Boss.
Naomi = This one is the hardest to guess, because she seems to have given up revenge on Snake by the end of MGS. Maybe she just believes in Liquid's plan more?
Meryl = <3 <3 Solid Snake
Raiden = Buddy Buddy w/Solid Snake after Solid became his mentor in MGS2
Otacon = Friends forever.

Again this plays totally into an A-team/group film. You have the main guy, his love interest, his comrade in arms, and then the smart guy who gives them the info and backup from afar.

Finally, though I think this is only 50% likely if the above plot setup is true, I think you'll play as Raiden and Meryl as well. In MGS games you've never really seen cutscenes that take place outside the area where the main playable character is. For instance you saw that Volgin beating the drum scene in MGS3...but Snake was watching it from afar. Same with Ninja vs. Rex in MGS1. The only scene I can even think of that was outside the lead's view was the scene inside the helicopter at the start of MGS3 with Volgin/Ocelot and the nuke. So going from that and the Raiden vs. Vamp scenes...either Snake is sitting watching the battle play out from afar or you are playing as Raiden and fighting Vamp after or before that cutscene.

Ok, I think that about covers my position and how I'd write the story if I was Kojima.


That got me so excited. :lol
 
momolicious said:
definately 30fps , you can tell

Sure about that? The HD trailer seems to have a lower fps rate encoded than the the first ones which seemed smoother. I guess Ryan (thread creator) is our man on this subject.
 
Y2Kev said:
The video is 29.97 FPS. So we can't tell.

Bebpo, I think Naomi is most likely to triple cross.

I'm surprised that IGN or 1up hasn't mentioned anything about this.

Wollan said:
Sure about that? The HD trailer seems to have a lower fps rate encoded than the the first ones which seemed smoother. I guess Ryan (thread creator) is our man on this subject.

Or anyone who went to the event. It shouldn't be that hard to get this information...
 
I watched the trailer earlier today, but I don't feel like reading through this whole thread. I'll just post some brief thoughts of mine.

It was very impressive on many levels, mostly graphically. However, the second half of the game made it look very boring. Snake often just stood out in the open, firing RPGs and machine guns at people while never appearing to be in any real danger himself. It looked like the element of suspense or danger was missing completely, hopefully just to make it easier to present what things snake are capable of.

It's hard for me to comment negatively about the controls. I thought it would be pretty bad, having to go through menus and such just to change weapons or whatever. But it didn't look like it took that much time at all, so I'm hoping it won't be too annoying.
 
Y2Kev said:
The video is 29.97 FPS. So we can't tell.

Bebpo, I think Naomi is most likely to triple cross.

I think Naomi is going to be on Liquid Ocelots side the entire time, from what it seems like, she gave up hope somewhat and is with Liquid because she thinks that is the strongest side, but she still helps Snake thinking he cant do anything.

and I dont see Eva with Snake or Liquids side, I bet she is with one of the military factions.
 
jett said:
eva's not related to big boss/snake


but eva very well could be the surrogate mother for the les enfants terribles project. It was code named "the Eve Project" after all.


in MGS3 the code names EVA and Adam were used.
 
It's so cute when they selected MKII and the MKII unfolds, yawns/stretches and then shakes its head.
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eva is in? awesome, wonder if you can bang her in this one as well?

free fps mode? double awesome. combat in mgs was always shitty due to the locked fps mode, finally looking forward to some action.
 
gketter said:
So with EVA being announced for the game who all is left besides in the MGS universe besides the CODEC only characters?

The only character i can think of is Olga

Olga is dead, shot in the head.
 
Ether_Snake said:
Olga is dead, shot in the head.

Yeah, I've seen this come up a few times in various threads with people thinking Olga is alive and living with Raiden until MGS4.

...did you dozen guys miss Solidus blowing her freaking brains out all over the Metal Gear Arsenal? :P

Vamp is pretty much immortal. As much was said in MGS2.
 
Dear Mr. Payton,

If you see this, please post the best-quality version of the HD video up on the first post. I, myself, have come across 3 different videos, one from IGN, one from Gametrailers, and one from Gamersyde.

Perhaps if there were a 1080p version, with the link hijacked from PSN like last time....

Sincerely,
An MGS fan
 
1UP and Gamespot are down from a power outage.

Only 1UP and IGN sent people to cover the event live. 1UP being down right now is like losing a satellite feed to the Super Bowl. They have to be SOOOOOO pissed right now.
 
shenmue mugen said:
The only bad (more like sad) thing about this game is that is going to mark the end of one of the most loved, criticaly acclaimed and story driven series of gaming history. It's like...from now on, we have one less series to be totally hyped for.

Well, I doubt MG is going away completely. Kojima has wanted someone to pass the reigns to for a good while now, and Murata (co-director/writer) is probably going to be the guy. It may no longer be Kojima's baby after this, and that's certainly the end of an era, but I think it'll be in good stead.
 
hmm, that didn't really blow me away as i would have expected. Looked pretty vanilla, like MGS with prettier graphics. Snake in particular still looks like he has no weight to him when you are controlling him, but thats been one of my minor gripes with all the MGS games. Besiedes, it was just a gameplay demo and some of the real polish probably just isn't there yet. I do like the evolution of the camo system and basically being able to change it on the fly.
 
sorry if this has been already brought up / argued over / bannings happened but...

does anyone know if this game is in 1080p? I thought I remember reading that Kojima was aiming for that resolution and was wondering if he hit the mark.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
Add this to the first post... Low Resolution

No need to add ign's crappy flash due to the whole "$insider$" BS.

Blim, GT, and countless others have FREE HD downloads, so what's the point in paying for it?
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Looked through the direct feed pics, Whatever greenish filter that keeps being created in these pics, they should seriously keep for the game!

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Simply fantastic!

This is unpossible.
 
I know everyone is still splooging over the gameplay video of MGS4, but what is the price of the Metal Gear Solid 20th Anniversary package, when is it coming out, and how the hell do I play it on my US PS3?
 
I finally watched the 720p presentation (coutesy of Gamersyde) on my PS3. I'm totally blown away:D
MGS has never appealed to me before, I've tried MGS and MGS2 but they didn't do it for me. I think I may give this one a shot though!
 
Thanks blimblim for the amazing 720p footage - it even plays on the PS3!

Current outstanding questions:
30fps or 60fps? (I'm guessing 30fps)
1280x720 or 1920x1080 (I'm guess 720p)

This is why I bought a PS3. Mostly.
 
Is it possible that maybe we can choose our own filter or color temperature, like Gears of War? Well I wouldn't expect it, but I think it would be a wicked option.
 
SS4Rob said:
Thanks blimblim for the amazing 720p footage - it even plays on the PS3!

Current outstanding questions:
30fps or 60fps? (I'm guessing 30fps)
1280x720 or 1920x1080 (I'm guess 720p)

This is why I bought a PS3. Mostly.

You guessed right
 
JB1981 said:
As with the latest trailer, these direct-feed screens have a strong green tint


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while the real-time footage

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Oh no, the green tint is back! I swear, we don't get one presentation/trailer without contradictory visual styles. :lol

Karma Kramer said:
DID ANYONE THINK WOW THIS IS LIKE CHILDREN OF MEN BUT IN A GAME!

Yeah, it reminded me of it a bit.
 
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