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Official NFL Playoffs thread - Why bother, just give the Pats the trophy edition

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MiamiWesker said:
Are they that bad, the fan base. From the Pats fans I have spoken too they seem level headed and respectful, confident yes, but don't you think they have earned that after three SB wins. But to be fair there are not many Boston fans here in Miami, what we have are New Yorkers, tons and tons of stinking Jets fans all over the place (no issues with you Giant fans, you seem to be smart bunch from NY, all the rejects became Jets fans). Now those are some annoying fans. Also I went to a MNF game here when the Eagles came into town, holy crap I was scared, Eagle fans are like the lowest of the low. But Pats fans, never an issue.

Yeah, I'm friends with multiple Giants and Pats fans. I can't think of one friend I've ever had who was a Jets fan. Pats are very cocky but i wouldn't go as far as saying arrogant, they are realistic. The more i think about it i think people are just sick of seeing them winning, between the 3 superbowls already, the Sox, and now the Celtics.


I hate to be defending the Pats but in short, i think you're all just jealous...
 
I need all of these Manning pics in Hi-Def so I can have some snazzy new desktop backgrounds for the weeks ahead.:D

Just saw the highlights of Seau's press conference after today's Pats game, well played going into 3rd person.:lol

EDIT: Let's give some props to Plax for an outstanding game!

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TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
I don't really buy the whole "Everyone always hates the best teams." For the most part people loved the Bulls. And not all of their players were the most humble. As a Dolphins fan i know why i want them to fall, but you have to respect what they're doing no matter what.

As for all the others who hate their greatness, i think it is just the demeanor Bostonians give off win they have a winning franchise. i really dunno, my dislike was always easily explained.

Exactly, I am right with you. I think everyone knows why I want the Pats to lose, but at the same time I spend half the time here defending them cause they get such unnessesary hate. I respect them totally. The way I look at it, treat those that have a winning team as you would like to be treated the day your team is a champion. I get the rivalry hate, stuff like that, but general hate cause the Pats are great, I dont get that.

(BTW I still hate those Bills more than any team in history, you may feel the same way too.)
 
This will be the hardest test for the Pats. First time they played, the Giants played there best game of the season. 3 games later they are still playing at that same level. Winning all their games on the road has given the team a swagger. If the Giants are going to win they will have to play better than they did. Tynes will not get 3 opportunities to win the game and if someone fucks up to the level that McQuarters did today then its a lost hope. If Plaxico plays like he did today then the Giants will be in a good position but they will need Toomer to step up. He had some good catches today but had some pretty bad drops as well. The Pats need to keep doing what they are doing but given the heat in Arizona, I think Moss will be more of a factor this time out.
 
Karakand said:
Hope not duder!


Not me. I fucking hated the Bulls. The rest of Lakers-Age and I hate on Jordan about as much as FMT does on Favre.

"for the most part"

It must've sucked to had a great basketball team durring the early 90s.
 
Wellington said:
All aboard guys, Giants bandwagon has some spots open!

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Green tea or coffee will be served in a few!!

... now for the monumental task of collecting all of the crow to make others eat.

I'd like a seat on the bandwagon.
And take a cup of green tea while you are at it. :D
 
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
I don't really buy the whole "Everyone always hates the best teams." For the most part people loved the Bulls. And not all of their players were the most humble. As a Dolphins fan i know why i want them to fall, but you have to respect what they're doing no matter what.

As for all the others who hate their greatness, i think it is just the demeanor Bostonians give off win they have a winning franchise. i really dunno, my dislike was always easily explained.

It can go either way. Their were warner fans EVERYWHERE the year the Rams won, fans popped up everywhere. Then you have the yankees who for some reason seem to be hated by all, of course I live in the Boston area os I don't know if the hatred is elsewhere.
 
Pats losing to the Giants will be the most awesome thing that can happen unless you're a hardcore Pats fan. I mean the look on the faces of all the stupid sports show pundits would be absolutely priceless. The amount of crow that they would have to eat, not only about the Pats but because of Eli and the Giants, would be massive. The Pats have been crowned already and the Giants weren't supposed to make it past round 1. It'll be mega awesome good times. :D Also, Eli with a ring. :O

Wellington said:
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MANNING FACE LOLOLOLOLOL
Congrats, btw. To you and lefty and the rest.
You are going to be so insufferable if the Giants win the Superbowl and I'M ROOTING FOR THEM!
 
msdstc said:
It can go either way. Their were warner fans EVERYWHERE the year the Rams won, fans popped up everywhere. Then you have the yankees who for some reason seem to be hated by all, of course I live in the Boston area os I don't know if the hatred is elsewhere.

Yankees are on a whole other plain, they're like the number 0, they have special exceptions as far as hatred goes. They have as many undeserved fans as they have undeserved haters. If you go through all the World Series they've won, at some point they probably beat your team in it.

Unless of course you're a Marlins fan :D
 
MiamiWesker said:
Let me guess, you thought Peyton was someone that you couldn't trust in big games either...

Exactly.

Tell me, how do you compare Joe Willy and Marino? I know football is a team effort, but I watched Elway bring his average Broncos to three Super Bowls. Sometimes the greats rise to the occasion, making their teams better. And sometimes they don't.

Basically, Marino is at the lower end of great quarterbacks I've seen.

EDIT - This all started when someone compared Nammath to Dilfer. Since none of us have actually seen Nammath play it's worthless arguing.
 
Its also good to see that the two teams that ended the regular season playing their hearts out are the two teams remaining. Hopefully this will teach teams that resting your starters who are not hurt is only detrimental to your team and doesn't help at all.
 
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
Yankees are on a whole other plain, they're like the number 0, they have special exceptions as far as hatred goes. They have as many undeserved fans as they have undeserved haters. If you go through all the World Series they've won, at some point they probably beat your team in it.

Unless of course you're a Marlins fan :D

:D .... :( The misery continues, this spring...
 
Rorschach said:
Pats losing to the Giants will be the most awesome thing that can happen unless you're a hardcore Pats fan. I mean the look on the faces of all the stupid sports show pundits would be absolutely priceless. The amount of crow that they would have to eat, not only about the Pats but because of Eli and the Giants, would be massive. The Pats have been crowned already and the Giants weren't supposed to make it past round 1. It'll be mega awesome good times. :D Also, Eli with a ring. :O


Congrats, btw. To you and lefty and the rest.
You are going to be so insufferable if the Giants win the Superbowl and I'M ROOTING FOR THEM!
Did you see Frank Caliendo's segment this afternoon on the Fox pre-game? He got on Terry, Howie, and Jimmy for constantly picking against the Giants... and then he picked against the Giants!
 
MiamiWesker said:
:D .... :( The misery continues, this spring...

:lol Let me have my moments! I got a good laugh in at one of the Texans here when they brought up penalties in the post-season, and then i remembered the Heat have the second worse record atm...
 
Big-E said:
Its also good to see that the two teams that ended the regular season playing their hearts out are the two teams remaining. Hopefully this will teach teams that resting your starters who are not hurt is only detrimental to your team and doesn't help at all.
srsly, this is the thing I fucking hate about a playoff system of determining champions.
 
Branduil said:
When their teams suck, they want everyone to pity them. When they win, they want everyone to worship their superiority. Case in point: Bill Simmons.

This is retarded. How many Boston sports fans do you actually know? And I mean REAL Boston sports fans, not the idiot bandwagon jumpers that all winning teams get.
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
This is retarded. How many Boston sports fans do you actually know?

I know quite a few here in Wisconsin, and every single one of them are cold, heartless bastards.

So perhaps that aids in my dislike for the Patriots.
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
This is retarded. How many Boston sports fans do you actually know? And I mean REAL Boston sports fans, not the idiot bandwagon jumpers that all winning teams get.
With the Red Sox what he said is pretty spot on. The other teams, not so much.
 
Artie said:
I know quite a few here in Wisconsin, and every single one of them are cold, heartless bastards.

So perhaps that aids in my dislike for the Patriots.

Those people are bandwagon losers. They don't count. We get them in Kentucky too. Fuck em.
 
vas_a_morir said:
Those people are bandwagon losers. They don't count. We get them in Kentucky too. Fuck em.

Well, the ones I know are from Boston originally, so...

I mean, Dr. Strangelove could be a very nice person in real life. Even his username seems to indicate such.
 
Bandwagoners are a part of sport. They are everywhere in every city in North America. The one commonality is that they are annoying. It depends on which band wagoning fans you are exposed to as the dominant group will always be the most annoying. For me being from the West Coast in Canada, I find Canuck and Suns bandwagoners the worst with the Seahawks to a certain extent. All bandwagoners, no matter the team, are annoying and deserve to die.
 
So thrilled right now. I have to admit I never expected them to get this far; this is kind of unreal.

No way we're going to beat the Pats playing like we did today, though. We weren't bad (D was great), but we failed to convert on enough big play opportunities, and well, Tynes...yeah, he made a 47-yard game winner, but he also missed two makeable FGs before that. No one's perfect, but still.

Great to see Plax have a game like he did; he was a beast today. Eli was very solid yet again; it's nice not having to wonder which Eli is going to show up each week now. Also, even though I love seeing Jacobs plow through defenders, I have to say I have more confidence in Bradshaw lately. His speed and agility allow him to make the quick adjustments and cuts that Jacobs can't.

Can't wait for the Super Bowl. If their previous meeting is anything to go by, it should be a good game.
 
Big-E said:
For me being from the West Coast in Canada, I find Canuck and Suns bandwagoners the worst with the Seahawks to a certain extent. All bandwagoners, no matter the team, are annoying and deserve to die.
Well in all these cases at least the bandwagon is for the "local" team. (Steve "Old Man Canada" Canada is the Pride of British Columbia!)
 
Wellington said:
Did you see Frank Caliendo's segment this afternoon on the Fox pre-game? He got on Terry, Howie, and Jimmy for constantly picking against the Giants... and then he picked against the Giants!
:lol Yeah. As Andy Rooney, no less. Not once did even a single person pick them. It was Cowgirls, Tampa, and Packtown across the board.
 
Gigglepoo said:
Exactly.

Tell me, how do you compare Joe Willy and Marino? I know football is a team effort, but I watched Elway bring his average Broncos to three Super Bowls. Sometimes the greats rise to the occasion, making their teams better. And sometimes they don't.

If you want to compare an individual to another then you have to go by stats, Namath is no where near the player Marino was. At the same time I know stats isnt everything but you cannot say Marino was not a winner, third all time in wins, third all time in come from behind victories. Marino's arm was freakish, to this day many still call him the greatest passer to ever live.

So he did not win a SB, it happens. So he had some bad games in the payoffs, it happens. What I don't do is use winning a SB as the end all measure for greatness. What if Elway never had Terrel Davis, what if he did end his career with no SB rings, all of sudden he is worse of a player. What if Vinatieri missed a FG or two in the SB and the Pats dont win, is Brady now not one of the best QB's ever. Sorry but I think the whole SB argument is dumb when comparing individuals.

Even the best players have bad games at times, Brady had a crappy one today but his TEAM still won. Marino had to do almost everything on his own on offense, sometimes thats too much for one man. Just like Peyton, if they had given Marino a good enough team he would have won a super bowl.

So sorry if I dont think the ONE game argument for Namath against the all around stellar career of Dan Marino is a valid one.
 
In other news, my great aunt died and left all this crazy dolphins shit to my dad. Coolest thing in the lot is a big framed picture of Jim Kick and Csonka sitting on the bench looking tired as hell.... signed buyem both.
 
MiamiWesker said:
So sorry if I dont think the ONE game argument for Namath against the all around stellar career of Dan Marino is a valid one.

Marino had a stellar regular season, not a stellar career. Gotta show up when the pressure is greatest. That's the whole point of sports. I'm not playing favorites either. Reggie Miller is my favorite NBA player of all time, but I can't rank him in the elite group because he couldn't elevate his team to the next level. He was close, but couldn't overcome Jordan, Kobe or those damned Knick teams. Great player? Yup, but not in the same class as someone like Tim Duncan.

MiamiWesker said:
What if Elway never had Terrel Davis...

He would still have made it to 3 Super Bowls. A little better than Danny Boy without a better team.
 
As a Raiders fan, and as someone who's seemingly surrounded by Bostonians, I can't say I've been terribly interested in the Super Bowl the past several years. But now I have a legit, burning desire to see little Eli knock off the Pats. Please. For the love of God and younger brothers everywhere, fuck up Tom Brady. It's your dessssstiny, young Manning.
 
harSon said:
Have you seen their schedule? It sucks ass.

Home games
Bills
Broncos
Cardinals
Chiefs
Dolphins
Jets
Rams
Steelers

Road games
Bills
Chargers
Colts
Dolphins
49ers
Jets
Raiders
Seahawks
 
MiamiWesker said:
If you want to compare an individual to another then you have to go by stats, Namath is no where near the player Marino was. At the same time I know stats isnt everything but you cannot say Marino was not a winner, third all time in wins, third all time in come from behind victories. Marino's arm was freakish, to this day many still call him the greatest passer to ever live.

So he did not win a SB, it happens. So he had some bad games in the payoffs, it happens. What I don't do is use winning a SB as the end all measure for greatness. What if Elway never had Terrel Davis, what if he did end his career with no SB rings, all of sudden he is worse of a player. What if Vinatieri missed a FG or two in the SB and the Pats dont win, is Brady now not one of the best QB's ever. Sorry but I think the whole SB argument is dumb when comparing individuals.

Even the best players have bad games at times, Brady had a crappy one today but his TEAM still won. Marino had to do almost everything on his own on offense, sometimes thats too much for one man. Just like Peyton, if they had given Marino a good enough team he would have won a super bowl.

So sorry if I dont think the ONE game argument for Namath against the all around stellar career of Dan Marino is a valid one.
I agree with everything in this post!

Seriously, Namath "clearly" better than Marino? :lol :lol

Brady, Elway, and Manning have had some horrible playoff games where their teams bailed them out. If Brady didn't have Vinatieri, he would have been fucked on more than one occasion. And, sometimes, it's a matter of a little bit of luck. Imagine if the tuck rule game never happened. :O

Artie said:
Home games
Bills
Broncos
Cardinals
Chiefs
Dolphins
Jets
Rams
Steelers

Road games
Bills
Chargers
Colts
Dolphins
49ers
Jets
Raiders
Seahawks
Weaksauce, but there's the colts, steelers, and Chargers...then again they were there this year... 16-0 repeat! No, wait...there is one man made of pure win that can overcome this beast.

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Road games
Bills
Chargers
Colts
Dolphins
49ers - L (49-2)
Jets
Raiders
Seahawks

pats are dead with our new martz-led offense! favre being dismantled in the playoffs again has restored my faith and excitement in football!

bring back... that looooovin feelin', whooooa that lovin' feelin! alex is ice man!
 
Rorschach said:
I agree with everything in this post!

Seriously, Namath "clearly" better than Marino? :lol :lol

Brady, Elway, and Manning have had some horrible playoff games where their teams bailed them out. If Brady didn't have Vinatieri, he would have been fucked on more than one occasion. And, sometimes, it's a matter of a little bit of luck. Imagine if the tuck rule game never happened. :O


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Somewhere, amongst a sober Green Bay, Woodson cried out.

A dynasty was born.
 
Artie said:
Home games
Bills
Broncos
Cardinals
Chiefs
Dolphins
Jets
Rams
Steelers

Road games
Bills
Chargers
Colts

Dolphins
49ers
Jets
Raiders
Seahawks

The bolded will be tough games. I think Seattle beats them at home. That is the toughest place in the league to play.
 
MiamiWesker said:
So sorry if I dont think the ONE game argument for Namath against the all around stellar career of Dan Marino is a valid one.
Broadway Joe was a world class drinker and a saint to us drunkards. The guy literally destroyed himself with performance-detracting substances!
This is a joke post though, seriously.

Artie said:
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Somewhere, amongst a sober Green Bay, Woodson cried out.

A dynasty was born.
And he had both damn hands on the ball!!!!!!1111
 
Poor Charlie...

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Speaking of Woodson, I'm convinced we'll be letting Asomugha go just like Woodson. :( He's gonna own with whatever team he ends up. I just hope it's not in the AFC. :'(

Wellington said:
The bolded will be tough games. I think Seattle beats them at home. That is the toughest place in the league to play.
Only if it's raining since Brady admitted he hates the rain, but it never rains in Seattle!!
 
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