Buggy Loop
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Himuro said:
Lol, Jansen is my favorite side character so far.
Anyway, composite magic, will the level 2/3/ etc be learnt with accessories? Since there's no mortal that seem to learn it.
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Lol, Jansen is my favorite side character so far.
Anyway, composite magic, will the level 2/3/ etc be learnt with accessories? Since there's no mortal that seem to learn it.
Sorry guys, I'm going to have to stop playing this game because Morgan Webb said it's garbage. :lol
Seriously, I'm having a blast with this one. It's definitely an old school RPG with some new twists in character development and in the skill learning system. All that and I'm still only on the first disk.
Seriously, I'm having a blast with this one. It's definitely an old school RPG with some new twists in character development and in the skill learning system. All that and I'm still only on the first disk.
BravoSuperStar
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I watched my friend play this for a bit yesterday. Compelled enough by what I saw to pick it up today. I haven't played a traditional JRPG since TOS on the GC, and even that one I stopped about 40 hours into.
Something about this game just grabbed me though, even though it seems like pretty standard stuff from the short exposure i've had to it.
Something about this game just grabbed me though, even though it seems like pretty standard stuff from the short exposure i've had to it.
f3niks said:
What? The reviews of this game are insane. Does it turn to crap at some point? The gametrailers review was the most accurate assuming it keeps up the standard it set in the first 5 hours.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30356.html
Kill Your Masters
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Totally.joelseph said:
TOTALLY!
I'm on disc 4 (Asian version, huzzah!) and I'm beginning to see where ducky and Bebpo's complaints about the plot are coming from. To be honest, I could see them on disc 3 as well...
(plot spoilers abound!)
(plot spoilers abound!)
I feel as though the story keeps missing things out. I've just beaten General Kakanas in Numara for the last time, and now I've been told that the White Boa is ideal for "cutting through the ice". Why do I need to know that? I don't even know why I went to Numara in the first place, the game forced me there after getting the magic stone in the Eastern Tribe Ruins, and now I'm being told that I should be going somewhere frozen. Why? How will that help me find Gongora? I have no idea where he flew off to in Grand Staff, but I guess I should be heading back to Gohtza because all the characters think I should for some reason.
Plus any game that reveals what is potentially its most important plot point - why the Immortals came to this world - through an optional text-only "cutscene" in a secret location, is a bit bonkers. I'm sure the game will later assume that I've read the messages in Gongora's secret lab as it has a habit of assuming we know things that we don't.
Lastly, will the writers damn well decide what death means in Lost Odyssey? Gongora didn't kill Lirum, so why do the characters keep saying that he did? (never mind the fact that he just...plonked her somewhere in Numara for thirty years without any explanation of what she was actually doing aside from sprogging Cooke and Mack) Why are the Immortals ACTUALLY immortal, rather than just very long lived? I get that time passes differently because they're from the other world on the axis, but that shouldn't make them incapable of dying surely?
I don't know, there's lots of things that are niggling away at me that don't seem to make sense, and it doesn't alter the fact that nothing interesting has happened since disc 1. Gongora is taking over the world for no reason other than he fancies it (although I presume that he thinks subjugating the world will mean the phenomena on his own world stop happening), we don't know what the Hall of Mirrors actually is despite it being mentioned several times as if it's been explained fully, Gongora's whole thing about the other immortals being traitors was never mentioned again after disc 2... it's just slightly baffling, a little like Eternal Sonata's habit of seeming to jump from scene to scene without properly linking the narrative together.
Plus any game that reveals what is potentially its most important plot point - why the Immortals came to this world - through an optional text-only "cutscene" in a secret location, is a bit bonkers. I'm sure the game will later assume that I've read the messages in Gongora's secret lab as it has a habit of assuming we know things that we don't.
Lastly, will the writers damn well decide what death means in Lost Odyssey? Gongora didn't kill Lirum, so why do the characters keep saying that he did? (never mind the fact that he just...plonked her somewhere in Numara for thirty years without any explanation of what she was actually doing aside from sprogging Cooke and Mack) Why are the Immortals ACTUALLY immortal, rather than just very long lived? I get that time passes differently because they're from the other world on the axis, but that shouldn't make them incapable of dying surely?
I don't know, there's lots of things that are niggling away at me that don't seem to make sense, and it doesn't alter the fact that nothing interesting has happened since disc 1. Gongora is taking over the world for no reason other than he fancies it (although I presume that he thinks subjugating the world will mean the phenomena on his own world stop happening), we don't know what the Hall of Mirrors actually is despite it being mentioned several times as if it's been explained fully, Gongora's whole thing about the other immortals being traitors was never mentioned again after disc 2... it's just slightly baffling, a little like Eternal Sonata's habit of seeming to jump from scene to scene without properly linking the narrative together.
â Narayan
Member
Okay. FUCK!
How do I beat the Crimson Forest boss? I already freed
. Now I just have to save
. How do I do this? SHIT IS MIND BOGGLING! 
How do I beat the Crimson Forest boss? I already freed
Cooke
Mack
â Narayan
Member
Tried this shit like -- SEVEN TIMES.Himuro said:
I'll try again.
EDIT: LULZ. IT WORKED. MUCH THANKS.
Buggy Loop
Member
U K Narayan said:
Yea, one fight i never was able to put him to sleep, reloaded, put him to sleep on first turn.. go figure.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
This Just In: Cooke's battle animation proven to be cutest ever.
Splash Wave
Member
Himuro said:
Dude, as good as the stories are, I can completely understand not wanting to do any long reading when playing a game.
Jimmy Stav said:
The stories are my favorite part of the game, but I'm always annoyed when one appears. The problem is that the presentations of the dreams does not mesh well with the rest of the game. It's a very sudden transition from one form of game interaction and style to another, and it upsets the flow of the game.
It's like you're listening to a rock album, and all of a sudden one of the tracks is a classical fugue. Even if you're a big fan of classical music, the rapid change in style disrupts the progression of the album. I like this concept of using text as a third-person narrative device, but I think the integration into games needs to evolve, much like cut scenes evolved from the PS1 era to present.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
So, I've gotten to the Crimson Forest and my thoughts about the game are starting to coalesce.
I'll put my cards on the table, I have only ever finished two RPGs: FF VII and FFX and only played more than a few hours of Blue Dragon, FF VIII, and original Wild Arms.
So obviously I don't come in to this as a storied RPG historian or any kind of expert. But I do still have, from my limited exposure to the medium, a massive affinity for the genre.
That being said, this game is really Final Fantasy X but better in pretty much every conceivable way.
I loved FFX and played the ass out of it, but this is just an immesurably better experience. In terms of story and characters it's more accessible and mature, and terms of the party, their reasons for coming together are extremely well done. And I'd expect that's going to pay dividends as the game goes on. You can't get much better motivation in battle than the dynamic between Kaim, Cooke, and Mack.
Emotionally it's also got such a fantastic foundation. Although it's played out through pretty much every Dream, Kaim's "life" experience is such a great theme for a protagonist and it really drove the more emotional moments of Disc One.
Visually, well, let's hope that either the towns improve graphically or we just don't see as many of them, because the "dungeon" environments like the Sea and Crimson Forest, are spectacular looking. The character models of the protagonists are also just amazing. As ridiculously Bedazzled as he is, even Tolten is a great looking design. A lot of this is thanks of course to Inoue's absolutely great work all down the line. Specifically, the game nailed the way he draws eyes, and the modeling of them was totally perfect (I've always found eye models to be really distracting [see: Gears] in more realistic game design.)
The Skill and Ring setup is also exceptionally done, to the point where when he's not healing Jensen is my go-to thief. Because I love those rings, brother. And the game is also really great at giving you just enough stuff to learn at any given point and you hardly ever feel that you have too much or too little available.
So, I haven't even really gotten my feet wet, but, yeah, I loved Blue Dragon. And this is about seven hundred times the better game.
I'll put my cards on the table, I have only ever finished two RPGs: FF VII and FFX and only played more than a few hours of Blue Dragon, FF VIII, and original Wild Arms.
So obviously I don't come in to this as a storied RPG historian or any kind of expert. But I do still have, from my limited exposure to the medium, a massive affinity for the genre.
That being said, this game is really Final Fantasy X but better in pretty much every conceivable way.
I loved FFX and played the ass out of it, but this is just an immesurably better experience. In terms of story and characters it's more accessible and mature, and terms of the party, their reasons for coming together are extremely well done. And I'd expect that's going to pay dividends as the game goes on. You can't get much better motivation in battle than the dynamic between Kaim, Cooke, and Mack.
Emotionally it's also got such a fantastic foundation. Although it's played out through pretty much every Dream, Kaim's "life" experience is such a great theme for a protagonist and it really drove the more emotional moments of Disc One.
Visually, well, let's hope that either the towns improve graphically or we just don't see as many of them, because the "dungeon" environments like the Sea and Crimson Forest, are spectacular looking. The character models of the protagonists are also just amazing. As ridiculously Bedazzled as he is, even Tolten is a great looking design. A lot of this is thanks of course to Inoue's absolutely great work all down the line. Specifically, the game nailed the way he draws eyes, and the modeling of them was totally perfect (I've always found eye models to be really distracting [see: Gears] in more realistic game design.)
The Skill and Ring setup is also exceptionally done, to the point where when he's not healing Jensen is my go-to thief. Because I love those rings, brother. And the game is also really great at giving you just enough stuff to learn at any given point and you hardly ever feel that you have too much or too little available.
So, I haven't even really gotten my feet wet, but, yeah, I loved Blue Dragon. And this is about seven hundred times the better game.
Kill Your Masters
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Then you must have hated every RPG ever in history before the PS2/cube/Box eraJimmy Stav said:
Bourbon Cowboy
Member
Oh god-dammit. What the hell at the first boss?!
I think I've tried 4 times, and every time its poison, down burst and then death.
I think I've tried 4 times, and every time its poison, down burst and then death.
Isn't shit being narrated to you the reason that Xenogears disc 2 is so disliked?Hellraizer said:Then you must have hated every RPG ever in history before the PS2/cube/Box era
I love the game, but these stories totally take me away from the game. If I want to read a book, I'll read a book. In fact, I would like to read this book. Just not while I'm playing the game.
Edit no Jutsu: The Crimson Forest looks fucking amazing. The lighting is so good!
Relix said:
I dont think that first boss is named that :lol
Anyway i'll give you a few clues, figure out the rest. Find a way to completely nullify poison for both Seth and Kaim. Read the manual to figure out the easiest way to kill most monsters/enemies, and craft some hot rings for Seth and Kaim.
EDIT: lol I see you caught on beforehand. Also elemental rings help out ALOT. This game is pretty much the same as FFIV or the Megami Tensei games as far as elements go. The weakness of the monsters really REALLY affect the tide of battle.
Y2Kev said:
Yeah she was Lil (two twins Phil and Lil). Also Crimson Forest reminds me alot of environments in Folklore.
Also people still need to read the stories to get everything around Kaim and Seth. Dont skip em, at least try a few stories. The music, sound effects, and graphics behind em really help not to yank you out of the game.
Kill Your Masters
Member
I don't feel like those stories are any longer than some good dialog in a old RPG, and if it ads to the atmosphere of the game, why not reading it? And if people dont like them, well they dont need to read them...Skilletor said:
chinmonster
Member
I was in the exact same situation, the answer is yes.dirtmonkey37 said:
Edit: Just got to the Crimson Forest, by far the most beautiful environment in the game so far after the disappointments that were
Numara and the ghost town.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Skilletor said:
I have to admit that when you get to that point where you're really tired and are just trying to push through to the next save point, you hit one of these and you're like "Ah, maybe later, sorry."
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
sprocket said:
By me.
gregor7777
Banned
joelseph said:
Sorry to say, life may prove rather difficult for you.
Well, if you want to know why Kaim is the way he is, and acts the way he does: read the stories.
If you just want to play, then by all means.
I think if the stories weren't as good as they are you wouldn't see so many people recommending something that is not typical of the medium.
Bourbon Cowboy
Member
Relix said:
Haha, yeah. I feel like a retard now. Great strategy was staring me in the face.
Himuro said:I take my time and explore. Plus, my game was idle.
I never thought I'd encounter a jrpg that had status effects that actually meant harm that wasn't SMT. These enemies in the Black Cave are fucking annoying.
Tell me about it.
Those dark sorcerers are a pain in the ass. And those things that look kind of like Pyramid Head are crazy.
masterkajo
Member
Does anyone know where I get the clue for the 3rd treasure (counted from top). (Since I already have the 4th and 5th I think I missed it).
CowboyAstronaut
Banned
I hope all the people enjoying Lost Odyssey are a sign that the game will sell well when the first sales numbers start trickling in because the game really does deserve strong sales.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Hey guys need some help in the crimson forest
so i make my way to the temple there is that boulder that falls from the stairs so i can't go that way. i move the boulder from the platform onto the lift and that other lift appears with a peice of a tablet. now i am completely loss. were to from there?
Rekki-Maru
Banned
i heard this game just comes packaged in a paper envelope w/ a piece of bubble wrap, for the US.
Not a Jellyfish said:
You have to use the run/dash option (x button) to reach a corner in the middle of the big stairs and avoid the boulder. then you can move up and reach the big door in the middle
Himuro said:I take my time and explore. Plus, my game was idle.
I never thought I'd encounter a jrpg that had status effects that actually meant harm that wasn't SMT. These enemies in the Black Cave are fucking annoying.
It took me around 17 hours too.
I take my time, explore every corner, look around, read allmost all dreams, and dont use dash unless needed. Anyway i do this with any other game.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
you're about a week late with the funnies