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Official Virtua Fighter 5 Thread
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The commentary works like this. VF.tv will broadcast hit matches of the day in your arcade or around the country (Japan). You can watch them on a big screen in the arcade, with commentary, rankings, etc.
Also, you can record a match and download it, and request commentary. The commentary is not generated on the fly as the match is being played, it's actually added on after.
Crazy arcade stuff that I wish could exist here but never will
Also, you can record a match and download it, and request commentary. The commentary is not generated on the fly as the match is being played, it's actually added on after.
Crazy arcade stuff that I wish could exist here but never will
i found this on http://virtuafighter.com/. new vids
are added daily and old ones removed due to some upload limit or something
http://kakomubi.zenno.info/sn/upload.html?1165186957
are added daily and old ones removed due to some upload limit or something
http://kakomubi.zenno.info/sn/upload.html?1165186957
stotch said:
virtuafighter.com is being updated right now and the forum is still in beta stage. Should be much more eye pleasing when it's done.
The kakomubi site is a private Japanese upload bbs hosting vids from random players around Japan. It's not high level play most of the time, but clips are added daily for anyone looking to get some fix for their VF addiction.
Once the PS3 version hits, we'll be able to upload the replay files to the internet thanks to the beauty of the PS3 flash memory support. There will be plenty of choice replays once the western VF players get their hands on the home version.
Agent X
Member
KTallguy said:The commentary works like this. VF.tv will broadcast hit matches of the day in your arcade or around the country (Japan). You can watch them on a big screen in the arcade, with commentary, rankings, etc.
Also, you can record a match and download it, and request commentary. The commentary is not generated on the fly as the match is being played, it's actually added on after.
Crazy arcade stuff that I wish could exist here but never will
That commentary feature is very interesting. How is the quality of the commentary? I wonder if they'd implement this for saved replays in the PlayStation 3 version of the game?
gamevideos.com just added some tournament videos for download
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8275
i think they've been posted before (from otenami haiken), but it's in 640x480 resolution
and you can see the players' faces.
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8275
i think they've been posted before (from otenami haiken), but it's in 640x480 resolution
and you can see the players' faces.
I edited the first post, but the game is officially 1080p-ready. Hooray
http://kakomubi.zenno.info/sn/d_src/up0838.jpg - Back of the Japanese box
http://kakomubi.zenno.info/sn/d_src/up0838.jpg - Back of the Japanese box
AndriaSang
Member
I wonder if the Xbox 360 version will have 1080p as well.
Be sure and as at the thing later this week, Reno.
Be sure and as at the thing later this week, Reno.
mckmas8808
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Reno said:
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GotchaForce
Member
Reno said:
I said :O
Scaling to 1080p is a bit different, you know...Fatghost said:
I'll be curious to see if the 360 version does end up supporting 1080p, though. Is AM2 handling the port? Virtua Tennis 3 is 1080p on PS3 (AM2 port) while the Sumo Digital 360 port of VT3 is limited to 720p. If AM2 handles VF5 on both machines, perhaps they will both be 1080p?
TheIkariWarrior
Member
ok so while PS3 VF5 is in higher resolution than the arcade, are the actual graphics as good?
the Nvidia GPU in PS3 is less powerful than the GPU in Linbergh in some areas (less fillrate, lower graphics bandwidth) more powerful in other areas (more pixel-shader performance, more cashe)
but the biggest difference (aside from the CPU: Pentium4 vs CELL) is the amount of RAM
Lindbergh: 1280 MB ( 1024 MB main + 256 MB graphics)
PS3: 512 MB ( 256 MB main + 256 MB graphics)
so i would imagine that some things don't look as good on PS3, while other things look better.
still, this should be a far far closer translation than VF4 and VF4 Evo on PS2. which is great!
the Nvidia GPU in PS3 is less powerful than the GPU in Linbergh in some areas (less fillrate, lower graphics bandwidth) more powerful in other areas (more pixel-shader performance, more cashe)
but the biggest difference (aside from the CPU: Pentium4 vs CELL) is the amount of RAM
Lindbergh: 1280 MB ( 1024 MB main + 256 MB graphics)
PS3: 512 MB ( 256 MB main + 256 MB graphics)
so i would imagine that some things don't look as good on PS3, while other things look better.
still, this should be a far far closer translation than VF4 and VF4 Evo on PS2. which is great!
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Question:
Is this discussion limited to the PS3 version because the 360 version will be different (in a significant way)?
Is this discussion limited to the PS3 version because the 360 version will be different (in a significant way)?
I doubt fillrate and bandwidth is an issue if they are supporting 1080p.TheIkariWarrior said:
As for ram, that might be an issue, but we'll just have to see. All reports have suggested that it looks virtually identical. Any differences appear to be subtle and will require fine comparisons between the two to detect.
Pimpbaa
Member
TheIkariWarrior said:
The bandwidth to memory is not important as you think. Games are becoming bottlenecked by shader performance not memory bandwith. That's why a Geforce 7600GT is better than a Geforce 6800 for example. The RSX (which is much better thana 7600GT) absolutely destroys the GPU in Linbergh since the Linbergh only has a Geforce 6800. The biggest issue is what you mention (the amount of ram).
Wait, so if you have a native 1080p game using all 720p textures/assets...it would look different than a 720p game scaled to a 1080p set?
I was under the impression that the only thing differing native and scaled is that native has textures done at the native resolution, hence more detail and better looking than scaled.
I was under the impression that the only thing differing native and scaled is that native has textures done at the native resolution, hence more detail and better looking than scaled.
No no no...Bebpo said:
Think about it like this...
You can run a PC game at all sorts of resolutions and see a difference, right? You can run PC games at resolutions ranging from 640x480 to stuff well above 1920x1080. The selection of resolutions really isn't going to have an impact on the textures and assets, however. PC games are not designed with one single resolution in mind and benefit from increases. Same deal here.
Scaling will not produce image quality as sharp as a native resolution. If you have a 1920x1200 PC display and run a game at 1280x800, it's not going to look as sharp as a game running at 1920x1200. Even the best scalers can't match actual resolution gains with lower resolution material.
Pimpbaa
Member
Bebpo said:
Textures are not bound by any specific resolution. They can be any size you want (within the texture size limits of the GPU). You can have n64 quality textures at 1080p or super high quality textures at 320x200. They are independant and have nothing to do with each other. Games being run at native or scaled on a display does not touch the textures at all, since it hasn't nothing to do with that.
dark10x said:
Hmmm...I always thought PC games had different texture packs for each resolution and loaded the appropriate one when you started the game.
I'm still a bit confused over this. So why does a 640x480 texture look better at 1080p than 480p? Aren't the amount of pixels that make up the texture the same and the 1080p will just 4x each pixel to fill the new empty space between the old ones?
Think about it like this...Bebpo said:
Let's say you have a 3072x2048 photograph. You can view this photo at 640x480 or 1920x1080. There is nothing changing within the photo itself, but at a higher resolution, you can resolve finer details.
With a game, the hard polygon edges can become sharper and cleaner at higher resolutions regardless of textures. You can play an N64 game at 1600x1200 using an emulator and edges become sharper, but nothing else changes. You can play Quake 2 at the same resolution as well.
Screen resolution has nothing to do with texture resolution, though higher resolution textures best appreciated through a high resolution.
If you have a 1024x1024 texture on a wall, you can view that wall at any resolution. The extra resolution comes in handy as you move away and the wall becomes smaller as the details can still be appreciated. Thing of a complex character model with lots of geometric objects (such as clothing items, hair, their eyes, etc.). The same model can be viewed at 640x480, but as you move away from that model, you begin to lose detail as there are not enough pixels present to display all of that model detail at a distance. At 1920x1080, you can resolve much of the fine detail at a much greater distance.
Not really a technical example, I know, but it makes sense from a common sense point of view.
TheIkariWarrior said:
Once again your comparing a closed box beast RSX to a 6800? You forget Cell + RSX = the impossible. RSX is not less powerful than a 6800 even in SLI mode. My my my hear we go with the ram count again. Can 512 of Rambus out do 1024DDR? Go ahead think about it. Not saying there is 512 Rambus total in PS3 I was just making a point. PS3 is specificaly made to handle work like this. Yes there are games like for instance Crysis that will benefit from the modern PC but this is not the case.
Also the PS3 pics look just as good if not better than the arcade.
and 1080p support :-0
Bebpo said:
Off-topic, and don't know if you've seen it previously, but GameWatch's article showcasing differences in display modes, 480i - 1080p is really interesting: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061218/ggl.htm#ps
A lot of other pics, mainly comparing RR7 in various resolutions there.
According to ******, who's usually well informed about Sega stuff:
[12:41] Ali: Secret VF5 for 360 presentation in Japan for Japanese press only
[12:41] Ali: next friday
[12:41] Ali: same version as PS3 release
[12:41] Ali: Version B
[12:41] Ali: More play modes and extras then PS3 version
[12:42] Ali: will see Japanese release
[12:41] Ali: Secret VF5 for 360 presentation in Japan for Japanese press only
[12:41] Ali: next friday
[12:41] Ali: same version as PS3 release
[12:41] Ali: Version B
[12:41] Ali: More play modes and extras then PS3 version
[12:42] Ali: will see Japanese release