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OG Xbox Appreciation and Lack of Emulation Thread of the big black box of doom
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, it's a weird design, visually, but like the Sidewinder before it, it's actually pretty good.
That said, I overwhelmingly prefer the Controller S's d-pad.
I am also happy to see this thread bumped again.
I try to bump when I have something fun to share anyway
Yeah I didn't like the 360 dpad either. I tend to prefer the typical ones though that aren't directional or anything else really.
HD version of this would still blow minds.
Speaking of HD is there a list of which games supported 720p/1080i? Still impressive that the Xbox had support for those formats. I mean the Wii never had HD support at all.
I'm also still reeling from the Rent-a-Hero Revelation
BTW was Metal Wolf Chaos region free?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_with_HD_support
No, I don't believe Metal Wolf Chaos is region free, but it's easy enough to mod the console to remove region locking. While you're at it, you can throw in a larger HDD. 2TB Xbox makes 500GB Xbox "One" / PlayStation 4 look kinda silly
A Black Falcon
Member
If you want a good beach volleyball game, seriously, stick to Sega's Beach Spikers for the Gamecube. DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball is so awful compared to that game... I like the DOA fighting games a lot, they're some of my favorites in the genre, but the Xtreme series isn't any good, in my opinion.
I'm not sure what you are talking about? The Duke has better button placement than any Microsoft controller that followed it...If the Duke had better button placement I would had liked it more, also, yuck at that dpad.
Nah, I don't like it when the buttons are too close, also white and black buttons on top never made much sense, glad they were on the bottom with S-Type.
A Black Falcon
Member
White and black on the bottom is one of the weirdest, and worst, button layout design decisions I have ever seen. Seriously. How anyone could have ever thought "hey, we have a decent 6-button layout here, about about we completely ruin it by randomly sticking two of the buttons somewhere else on the controller where it makes no sense" and then Microsoft actually SHIPPED the stupid thing... what happened? It's crazy!
And the moved Start and Back buttons are just as bad, too. The incredibly bad White, Black, Start, and Back button placements rule out the S as a controller I ever want to use. (I have one, but only because some people prefer it, and they're easier to find than Duke controllers, which I do have several of.) The S is also a bit less comfortable to hold, too -- I like larger controllers. And the d-pads are about equal, between the two; I had a Sidewinder in the '90s, I like that d-pad. The Sidewinder's is better because it is larger, but the original Xbox controller's smaller version of it is decent.
I remember laughing at how big and awful the button placement on the duke was back in 02 or so.
Picked one up recently and as an adult i love the thing. I even find the dpad very comfortable believe it or not. Limited edition duke usb hardwired controller for Xbox One Ms plz.
Also I dunno if this had been covered what do you guys call the first Xbox? OG Xbox?
Picked one up recently and as an adult i love the thing. I even find the dpad very comfortable believe it or not. Limited edition duke usb hardwired controller for Xbox One Ms plz.
Also I dunno if this had been covered what do you guys call the first Xbox? OG Xbox?
"OG Xbox" can be used universally, although I personally like "oXbox" more and people don't seem to get confused.
hooijdonk17
Member
MS has a weird controller evolution. They had the Duke, which was basically an improvement of the Dreamcast monstrosity. The only thing it had going for it was the placement of the dual sticks, a good d pad and the six face buttons. It was shit to handle though, terrible ergonomics.
They then went ahead and designed S, which is basically the most ergonomic controller I've ever used. Everything about the controller was perfect, aside from lacking shoulder buttons and.. Surprise, MS fucked with the controller's button layout for no reason and now there were no more six face buttons, and playing fighters was a BITCH..
Then they went ahead and designed the 360 controller which, while quite good, was ergonomically a step backwards (it's not as easy on my wrists as Controller S was), kept the layout mostly, which was understandable.. They even added the shoulder button but.. Surprise, MS completely fucked with the controller's D-pad and it was nearly completely unusable
And then now we have the One controller, which just doesn't sit well in my hand - change for the sake of change and the goddamn thing isn't even as comfortable as the 360 pad..
I don't get you, MS.
Controller S ergonomics and d-pad, Duke face button layout, 360 shoulder button/triggers - how hard can it be?
They then went ahead and designed S, which is basically the most ergonomic controller I've ever used. Everything about the controller was perfect, aside from lacking shoulder buttons and.. Surprise, MS fucked with the controller's button layout for no reason and now there were no more six face buttons, and playing fighters was a BITCH..
Then they went ahead and designed the 360 controller which, while quite good, was ergonomically a step backwards (it's not as easy on my wrists as Controller S was), kept the layout mostly, which was understandable.. They even added the shoulder button but.. Surprise, MS completely fucked with the controller's D-pad and it was nearly completely unusable
And then now we have the One controller, which just doesn't sit well in my hand - change for the sake of change and the goddamn thing isn't even as comfortable as the 360 pad..
I don't get you, MS.
Controller S ergonomics and d-pad, Duke face button layout, 360 shoulder button/triggers - how hard can it be?
chronic_archaic
Member
I need to pick up a pair of component cables for mine. Then again, I can always play most of my favorites through HDMI on my 360... but not all!
They're not 'on top' though, they're to the right in an array. Just like the Sega 6 button controllers. The size of the duke puts your hands to the side, but the buttons are a natural 3 columns of 2 under your thumb. The S is a really good controller but the movement of black and white really made me sad and still does.
I should find one of my Duke's, it was truly a fantastic feeling controller.
Emperor Bohe
Member
OG Xbox all the way
sixteen-bit
Member
I'm watching old 1up shows from the 360 launch and everyone calls it the Xbox 1 and it's hilarious.
Original pressing or revised edition? Either way, still somewhat rare due to the recall.
I got my Japanese copy of Dead or Alive 3 yesterday.
Japanese Xbox imports are kewl.
Judging from the activity in this thread, though, the Xbox is not a particularly cool system
When will people realize what they've missed!?
Don't worry. The retro game craze is about 10 years or so in the past. Pretty soon Xbox games will become popular again and demand (and prices) will jump.
Enjoy the system and its games while you can still find them cheaply.
What's really annoying is that any content created during the time of the original Xbox is now impossible to find. It was bad during the 360, it's even worse now.
RoryDropkick
Member
Good question! How do I determine that?
Blackstarhat
Member
I love the duke controller.
I don't remember anything about that, but wouldn't really surprise me.
Always hated the placement of those buttons, but otherwise I loved both OG Xbox controllers. I have big hands though.
Rockondevil
Member
I play the shit out of my Xbox. So many an parties were had back in the day. I really loved the Duke back then and I was so against the s controllers but I ended up getting one and it turns out they were great controllers also.
I wish consoles to this day were just like it instead of full of everything else. It was like consoles used to be, just about gaming. XBL made gaming so much better and I miss the days of everyone voice chatting too.
I wish consoles to this day were just like it instead of full of everything else. It was like consoles used to be, just about gaming. XBL made gaming so much better and I miss the days of everyone voice chatting too.
That looks way too clean. Is the sprites REALLY that sharp?
Emperor Bohe
Member
The sprites actually look really nice in motion
Whatever SNK was doing during that port, they need to do more of it for their future ports.
Hyperzephyrian
Banned
Care to share? I could use a laugh.
Of course, I captured it right from the game. Only thing I did was scale it (why it did process 1080p I don't know).
sixteen-bit
Member
this playlist is a compilation of everything they've released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPsKqmgUmSw&index=2&list=PLv7my1uLrkeyVniRElsEdclHPvNQ9mbYl
KDash31987
Member
If I remember correctly, they redid the sprites at a higher resolution, but keeping them in the same style and with the same frames and such, so that it still played (mostly) like '94.
I'm still saddened that it never got a US release. The only release is the Japanese PlayStation 2 one.
In the quest for better video quality, I give you the rare Xbox Live Controller, in 4k!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gYhAM7Gthg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gYhAM7Gthg
spookyfish
Member
So I decided to boot up the old 'Box, and the power wouldn't come on. Shit. My mind is wondering about the clock capacitor, and the power supply, Etc.
I get my torx set out, and start breaking seals and unscrewing bolts, and looking on YouTube for what I need to look out for.
I open up the box, struggle with getting the hard drive assembly off to view the motherboard, and ... Nothing. There was nothing out of sorts. What the hell ...
Then I remembered the updated power cord MS sent out, which has a GFI (ground fault interrupt) type button on it. I crawl behind the old TV, and -- sure enough, I needed to press the reset button.
Booted up fine after that.
I get my torx set out, and start breaking seals and unscrewing bolts, and looking on YouTube for what I need to look out for.
I open up the box, struggle with getting the hard drive assembly off to view the motherboard, and ... Nothing. There was nothing out of sorts. What the hell ...
Then I remembered the updated power cord MS sent out, which has a GFI (ground fault interrupt) type button on it. I crawl behind the old TV, and -- sure enough, I needed to press the reset button.
Booted up fine after that.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Oh! Is that why my "Xbox Original" Guilty Gear X isn't working on my 360 E?
I transfered all my licenses to an E from an og white 360 but I'm using a 3rd party drive I bought off Amazon.
That is highly likely. A lot don't add those bits, instead giving more space.
When you search, type -360 -one. That should rid you of most irrelevant data.
Since you're mentioning scart, I'm guessing you have a European Xbox. From what I've read, European Xboxes don't support HD stock. You'll have to mod it if you want HD (well worth it). Whether that means the component cables won't work at all is unknown (I think you'll just be limited to SD). The official cables are black, not grey, and they support digital audio. Don't get 3rd party component cables as they're lower quality.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Thanks. Looks like these two threads offer a method to regain access to my Xbox originals on an aftermarket drive:
http://www.reddit.com/r/xbox/comments/1qjtjo/third_party_360s_hard_drives_any_good/
http://digiex.net/downloads/downloa...360-partition-2-download-xbox-1-emulator.html
I'm not sure how easy it is to hack/"jailbreak" a 360 these days, but on my JTAG 360 (I have an untouched one as well, which is my main gaming box) you can get a version of that particular partition that'll attempt to play all OG Xbox titles, not just a few specific ones. Surprisingly, I've found a few that play better than titles that were made official (like Rallisport 2).
Absolutely. At least I now know where that unlocked BC partition came from... I thought someone just hacked the retail one, now I know.
Just bummed me that RSC2 ran so damn well but it never saw the light of day BC-wise. Especially considering it was better than the majority of stuff I got to try. Off the top of my head, Outrun 2, PGR2, Sonic Heroes all ran worse. Quantum Redshift and Deathrow I remember being considerably better than on the original Xbox. QR looked like a first-gen 360 (or early XBLA) title!
hooijdonk17
Member
Ok, elaborate. Now. Please? Pretty please?
The Gamecube launched the same year and is definitely suffering from crazy prices. Still, the Xbox is a very nice way to get into collecting right now, and while it will rise, I don't think it'll ever match Gamecube, Saturn etc.
Nope. They are transparent though.
PhineBuyM3
Member
Anyone know of some good PS2 to Xbox converters that don't lag for fighting games?