Jawmuncher
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Fzero is actually fun, but wipeout actually exists.
So it's hard to choose.
So it's hard to choose.
Also, even though it is a funny thought, don't get too hung up on the ghost, play GP and story mode as well. They, especiall the story mode, are quite difficult as well and can serve as a good way to get the hang of the game. When I said that my friend needed about 20 hours to beat the ghost, this time was in addition to first beating story and GP mode twice over the years, probably taking more than 100 hours of playtime in itself.
And some people wonder why F-Zero GX didn't sell.
Psygnosis is long dead so Nintendo wins?
I'm not much of a team player, so having individuality in characters is more appealing to me.
I genuinely don't know what people who think Wipeout lacks style or an identity are seeing..
It's absolute madness to me.
Wipeout is a badly designed game. You know this when 99% of the players online have autosteering turned on so they dont ram into walls.
F-Zero in 2017 said:
wipEout in 2017 said:
In X? No! You should always keep A pressed and if you are driving on max speed, to short attacks to stabilise if you need to turn stronger than possible without sliding.
Preferences aside, it's quite telling of the makeup of this forum that the number of votes for f zero wayyyy outnumbers that of Wipeout, despite f zero being a niche game that few outside Nintendo enthusiasts have played, and Wipeout being a millions selling mega franchise.
That's not saying Wipeout is better because it's more popular, but it is saying that it's funny how unrepresentative Neogaf is of gaming in general. Surprising really.
Wipeout is a badly designed game. You know this when 99% of the players online have autosteering turned on so they dont ram into walls.
The only good Wipeout game from a gameplay perspective is HD/Fury Zone Mode, because the weapons completely destroy any fun in the regular campain/races.
Here's a Wipeout world record time trial and a F-Zero GX world record time trial.
IMO F-zero wins. Wipeout looks boring.
lol at your snaking video
Calling wipeOut soulless is delusional, F-Zero fans are delusional .
F-Zero has been dead for over a decade. wipeOut lived to see an entire generation beyond F-Zero, and while Studio Liverpool has been shuttered, wipEout still receives remasters.
Get a grip on reality F-Zero fans!
yeah, Snaking is entertaining as fuck, and snaking videos are always good examples of GX's speed and seemingly limitless skill ceiling, but that's the hardest advanced technique to pull off in GX, a game that's been celebrated for a long time as being one of the hardest of all time. It's not like F-Zero GX isn't visibly faster than Wipeout to begin with, so I'm not sure why snaking videos are being thrown around as though they're representative of GX as a whole.
Except they dont because MK is designed well and theres concessions with autosteering.Mario Kart is a badly designed game. You know this when 99% of the players online have autosteering turned on so they dont ram into walls huehuehue
Preferences aside, it's quite telling of the makeup of this forum that the number of votes for f zero wayyyy outnumbers that of Wipeout, despite f zero being a niche game that few outside Nintendo enthusiasts have played, and Wipeout being a millions selling mega franchise.
That's not saying Wipeout is better because it's more popular, but it is saying that it's funny how unrepresentative Neogaf is of gaming in general. Surprising really.
Here's a Wipeout world record time trial and a F-Zero GX world record time trial.
IMO F-zero wins. Wipeout looks boring.
Except they dont because MK is designed well and theres concessions with autosteering.
Wipeout is getting a PS4 collection, Studio Liverpool still exists, numerous games are coming out directly inspired by Wipeout like Redout, Formula Fusion and several fan made games, meanwhile the F-Zero hasn't had an entry in over 12 years and its best entry was made by SEGA.
This was my first thought.It would be incredibly weird to see anyone who has played both say Wipeout with a straight face.
This was my first thought.
Err lol, Nintendo is very popular here on GAF if you haven't noticed, Jackstin. Not that wipeout is all that popular anymore either, they shut down the studio.
TBH, that f-zero clip looks buggy as hell. Snaking all over the place, dodgy jumps.
This looks like a more accurate f-zero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BXkbXeWTg0
Just skip along that a few times and you can see it's not quite like the intensity of skill and control like in a wipeout video, just playing the game normally. Not that f-zero isn't fun or hard. It's arcade vs sim. Sure you can make it even more difficult by snaking...but why. At least in MK DS it was fun snaking, that doesn't look fun at all. Looks broken to me. I only tried it a little bit earlier today but having the screen swish all over the place trying to snake wasn't fun either.
That world record wipeout vid brings back memories!
What's up with this shit? Few outside of Nintendo enthusiast have played?Preferences aside, it's quite telling of the makeup of this forum that the number of votes for f zero wayyyy outnumbers that of Wipeout, despite f zero being a niche game that few outside Nintendo enthusiasts have played, and Wipeout being a millions selling mega franchise.
That's not saying Wipeout is better because it's more popular, but it is saying that it's funny how unrepresentative Neogaf is of gaming in general. Surprising really.
That doesn't make any sense. At all.Wipeout is a bit like Crash Bandicoot and CTR in that they're pretty average but because PlayStation only gamers can't play FZero, Mario or Mario Kart they're suddenly amazing and completely over rated.
What's up with this shit? Few outside of Nintendo enthusiast have played?
I think I see what's going on. If you're old enough, having played F-Zero is NOT a function of being a Nintendo enthusiast. I still play F-Zero (I love the original), F-Zero X, and F-Zero GX, and I don't even own a modern Nintendo console (just NES and SNES).
Uh, did we watch the same video? That video you posted shows insane skill. That method where the player is dipping off and then BACK ONTO the track, to gain speed? Incredibly hard. Ridiculously hard, actually.
Whats wrong with it? Its not like snaking is easy to do at all especially maintaining it at this level of speed. Good luck mastering it. That would probably take over hundreds of hours by itself.
I genuinely don't know what people who think Wipeout lacks style or an identity are seeing..
It's absolute madness to me.
Uh, did we watch the same video? That video you posted shows insane skill. That method where the player is dipping off and then BACK ONTO the track, to gain speed? Incredibly hard. Ridiculously hard, actually.
I mean, it's fine to like the physics and shit of wipeout more, more power to ya. Everyone has their preferences. But to keep spouting that F-Zero takes less skill and is some inferior game because you don't prefer how it plays is, uh, crazy talk. GX in particular is probably the hardest, most skill intensive racer I can think of. The world records in that game are insane, and merely conpleting story mode requires ridiculous skill.
Here's a Wipeout world record time trial and a F-Zero GX world record time trial.
IMO F-zero wins. Wipeout looks boring.
Everyone saying F-Zero is dead... I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Switch entry. I think with the unified development teams and enough distance from the last entry, we could see it!
Yeah i have played the game since 2004 and i can honestly say that no matter how much i play it i will never be able to unlock the AX tracks. Unlocking everything in Wipeout while hard is not even in the same league as GX.
The one with a better chance of getting a new entry in the franchise, probably.
His observation is like %99 accurate. All he was saying was that the majority of GAF says F-Zero, but that isn't necessarily accurate to what people are actually playing and buying outside of GAF. IDK why you're offended, it seems pretty true to me.
Eh, that's more like 70% of what he's saying. He said that few outside of "Nintendo enthusiasts" have played F-Zero after noting that the vote is overwhelmingly in F-Zero's favor. Then he suggests that these facts bear relevance on gaf's make-up. The clear implication is that the reason the vote is skewed in this manner is because gaf is made up of "Nintendo enthusiasts." Which is not a conclusion you can fairly draw from the facts. That's probably why he doesn't explicitly state it, opting instead to comment on how "funny" and "surprising" it is.
Uh, did we watch the same video? That video you posted shows insane skill. That method where the player is dipping off and then BACK ONTO the track, to gain speed? Incredibly hard. Ridiculously hard, actually.
I mean, it's fine to like the physics and shit of wipeout more, more power to ya. Everyone has their preferences. But to keep spouting that F-Zero takes less skill and is some inferior game because you don't prefer how it plays is, uh, crazy talk. GX in particular is probably the hardest, most skill intensive racer I can think of. The world records in that game are insane, and merely conpleting story mode requires ridiculous skill.