Nail on the head.
Nothing would please me more than to see Konami, Capcom, et al returning to their former glory.
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On Super Bomberman R, glimmers of hope for Konami, and Bomberman in Smash
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Nothing would please me more than to see Konami, Capcom, et al returning to their former glory.
If you want a developer made up of ex-Hudson workers, why not just continue with the Konami team that did this one? It was made up of Hudson employees who had worked on the Bomberman series.
Hero of Legend
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I've seen the credits and I barely saw any IIRC. Really only like two-three from Konami even worked on it design-wise. It seemed to have been a 99.9% Hexadrive-made game.
The Giant
Banned
I can see that Nintendo and Valhalla will be working together for the long term. I presume that Itagaki's next game will be Switch exclusive.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Konami X Good-Feel for Castlevania then.
Hero of Legend
Member
Maybe his, but Valhalla actually have a second team at Soleil and are making that Naruto to Boruto game with UE4 for PS4, XBO, and PC, but no Switch version.
I'm just glad to see Bomberman return. I don't own a Switch yet but this baby boy is def on my list of games to go along with my eventual purchase.
why are you looking to start a fire
why are you looking to start a fire
Chronospherics
Member
Each to his own. I think the muddled visuals singehandedly make it worse than the much more vibrant / contrasting presentation of Bomberman Ultra.
It not only looked more appealing (a personal opinion), but it also lead to better gameplay as players can all more easily detect what's happening at a glance.
Here's a comparison
The UI also has inherent issues given that it overlaps the screen. In this screenshot provided by Konami, there's a bomb at the top of the screen being partially masked by the games UI.
These subtle differences matter. They affect how and how quickly the gameplay conveys vital information to the players, and when done right that has significant potential to enhance the user experience. I feel that Ultra, an older, cheaper version of Bomberman, has significantly better gameplay because of these attributes.
Graphics Horse
Member
It makes me eagerly await their live e3 conference.
There's got to be one, right? It's been seven years 😢😭
There's got to be one, right? It's been seven years 😢😭
Waluigilicious
Member
Bomberman has always been my most wanted Smash character and always will be. Not only is he my most wanted, but I also believe he fits in the most when I think from an unbiased point of view.
Pac-Man and Wii Fit Trainer got a moveset ffs! I wrote up a quick and dirty part of a moveset for him a while back, might aswell post it here:
Up B - Pogo Stick Kangaroo
Side B - Fat Rolling Kangaroo
Down B - Magician Kangaroo, places down a line of bombs
B - holds a bomb, keep holding to change to spike bomb, and more to change to remote bomb and a bit more for dangerous bomb (scrolls like pacman items). Let go to throw. If remote bomb next B press detonates.
A - Punch (can punch bombs too)
Up A - Random power up. He either pulls speed up which makes him faster, bomb up which makes him be able to use more bombs as his B move, or fire up which makes his bombs powerful. There's a cooldown for this move and a 10% chance of a power down. Resets at stock loss.
Down A - Place Proximity bomb underground, it becomes hidden.
Side A - Kick. (Can kick bombs too)
Pac-Man and Wii Fit Trainer got a moveset ffs! I wrote up a quick and dirty part of a moveset for him a while back, might aswell post it here:
Up B - Pogo Stick Kangaroo
Side B - Fat Rolling Kangaroo
Down B - Magician Kangaroo, places down a line of bombs
B - holds a bomb, keep holding to change to spike bomb, and more to change to remote bomb and a bit more for dangerous bomb (scrolls like pacman items). Let go to throw. If remote bomb next B press detonates.
A - Punch (can punch bombs too)
Up A - Random power up. He either pulls speed up which makes him faster, bomb up which makes him be able to use more bombs as his B move, or fire up which makes his bombs powerful. There's a cooldown for this move and a 10% chance of a power down. Resets at stock loss.
Down A - Place Proximity bomb underground, it becomes hidden.
Side A - Kick. (Can kick bombs too)
Rayman is one of my least favourite character designs ever, I genuinely think he's hideous. I'd take just about anything in the game over him.
Bomberman would make me cry tears of joy.
archreaper93
Member
http://sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/
Keyword: "Courtesy"
https://sourcegaming.info/2016/01/20/sakurai-x-nomura-creator-interview-2016-part-one/
This "relevance to Nintendo" notion needs to go away and never come back.
Cloud has technically appeared on a Nintendo system before, so I'm fine with his inclusion (he's my main). I'm just saying who I want in. Plus, while Cloud himself was never really relevant to Nintendo, Final Fantasy was.
What is this based on? I didn't know that Sony would have cut ties to Konami or condemned their actions in any way. Konami games have still appared on Playstation even after that Kojima debacle. What is this fallout between Konami and Sony? There even has been Konami developed exclusive game released Apr 28, 2016 for Playstation.
http://sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/
Keyword: "Courtesy"
https://sourcegaming.info/2016/01/20/sakurai-x-nomura-creator-interview-2016-part-one/
This "relevance to Nintendo" notion needs to go away and never come back.
its still a valid notion, he says right there its a courtesy but its still something that exists and is taken into consideration
JetSetRadio
Banned
Konami is awesome, they give me PES.
Jawmuncher
Member
Even still, Snake has more going on with Nintendo than Cloud ever has. Since that's the angle everyone wants to play it. But then they change their goal post and go "well final fantasy is nintendo".
Jawmuncher
Member
Capcom has two reps. I don't see why Konami couldn't. Regardless how you feel about fitting, snake still has veteran status to consider.
Hey everyone, OP here. To be clear, my No. 1 most wanted character in Smash Bros is Snake. I haven't wavered on that front. But ideally we'd get at least two Konami reps, being Snake and Bomberman. Both deserve to get in (or back in, in Snake's case)!
As for the colors, I find R perfectly easy to read. Maybe even easier to read, since the characters, detonations and power-ups stand out better against the more earthy tones of the arenas in R, whereas in Ultra there's a lot more visual noise (i.e. bright yellow explosions against bright yellow floors, etc).
Actually, in R you can fix the UI "blocking" the bomb by simply going into options and locking the camera. The reason why it's blocking the bomb in that screenshot is because the camera is unlocked and the screen temporarily panned over it (similar to how the camera pans and zooms in Smash Bros). Note how the screen isn't centered there; when you choose to lock the screen, it's centered in such a way that the HUD won't obscure anything.Each to his own. I think the muddled visuals singehandedly make it worse than the much more vibrant / contrasting presentation of Bomberman Ultra.
It not only looked more appealing (a personal opinion), but it also lead to better gameplay as players can all more easily detect what's happening at a glance.
Here's a comparison
The UI also has inherent issues given that it overlaps the screen. In this screenshot provided by Konami, there's a bomb at the top of the screen being partially masked by the games UI.
These subtle differences matter. They affect how and how quickly the gameplay conveys vital information to the players, and when done right that has significant potential to enhance the user experience. I feel that Ultra, an older, cheaper version of Bomberman, has significantly better gameplay because of these attributes.
As for the colors, I find R perfectly easy to read. Maybe even easier to read, since the characters, detonations and power-ups stand out better against the more earthy tones of the arenas in R, whereas in Ultra there's a lot more visual noise (i.e. bright yellow explosions against bright yellow floors, etc).
I similar to the OP. Picked up a digital copy last night and having a lot of fun with it. Slick, fast, smooth frame rates and, at the end of the day, the gameplay is just so tried and tested.
Can't wait to get pissed with mates round. Next weekend I've got a few friends coming over. Going to get pizzas, a crate or two of beer, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Bomberman. What a time to be alive.
Can't wait to get pissed with mates round. Next weekend I've got a few friends coming over. Going to get pizzas, a crate or two of beer, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Bomberman. What a time to be alive.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
all these bomberman characters and not a single regulus #disgrace
Jubenhimer
Member
I lost a ton of respect for Konami the minnute they proclaimed "Fuck you, smartphones are the future!", treated their employees like garbage, neglected or destroyed their properties (Metal Gear Survive, Erotic Bombergirl) and cock-blocked and fired the one person who was keeping them afloat in their time of crisis (Kojima).
But with the success of Super Bomberman R, and their willingness to improve the game and support it post launch, maybe they might start pulling their heads out of their ass and make good games for once. I don't like to see any company fail, but Konami has made it really difficult to keep that stance. Here's hoping they take this as a wake up call.
But with the success of Super Bomberman R, and their willingness to improve the game and support it post launch, maybe they might start pulling their heads out of their ass and make good games for once. I don't like to see any company fail, but Konami has made it really difficult to keep that stance. Here's hoping they take this as a wake up call.
Man, the World 1 theme is stuck in my head (especially around 35 seconds in).
The Story Mode is really challenging. I'm still trying to get past the first world without having to use continues (playing on Veteran).
Game is so much fun. Just wish I knew which multiplayer maps to prioritize for purchase. Saving up my gems!
The Story Mode is really challenging. I'm still trying to get past the first world without having to use continues (playing on Veteran).
Game is so much fun. Just wish I knew which multiplayer maps to prioritize for purchase. Saving up my gems!
Chronospherics
Member
Comparing the differences in colour contrast between the two (via photoshop and http://www.msfw.com/Services/ContrastRatioCalculator) reveals that ultra is actually quite a bit more constrastive, at least for things like Bombs and their explosions. Though I will say that I think neither are ideal, to be honest.
As for the camera, they patched that then? I'd love to see the new camera. Either way the hud does waste quite a bit of space compared to the old, which makes even less sense on the portable.
The HUD is fine, IMO. The maze fits perfectly within the boundaries of the TV screen (and thus handheld), while the icons for players 1-8 fill out the remaining space on the side and timer is at the top. And yeah, you can go into options and lock the camera so it doesn't pan or zoom. And in Story Mode, you can now shift the camera angle with L and R, allowing you to get the classic top-down view. Speaking of Story Mode, it has the boldest and most vibrant colors I've ever seen in the series. Planet Technopolis alone is a visual feast.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
This guy gets it.
A much needed thread, this one. Thanks OP!
I was never big on the hate train (because we pretty much only heard Kojima's side of the story imo) but Bomberman R and its recent support to me seals the deal: I highly prefer a world of gaming where Konami continues to exist and is able and willing to release games based on their fantastic IP than a world where they were actually shunned and reduced to Pachinko manufactorers.
Now bring Castlevania, Goemon and Sparkster back on Swtich next please!
My wish:
I was never big on the hate train (because we pretty much only heard Kojima's side of the story imo) but Bomberman R and its recent support to me seals the deal: I highly prefer a world of gaming where Konami continues to exist and is able and willing to release games based on their fantastic IP than a world where they were actually shunned and reduced to Pachinko manufactorers.
Now bring Castlevania, Goemon and Sparkster back on Swtich next please!
My wish:
Simon Belmont being the first Konami rep in Smash so that we have the Captain N team complete, followed by Bomberman and Snake.
ivanthebearable
Member
Recently bought and played with a friend and honestly it's pretty great! I'm happy to have Bomberman back.
Also I'd love if he was in Smash. I'd even take having
Snake if it meant Bomberman could get in too.
Also I'd love if he was in Smash. I'd even take having
stupid fucking