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OT- Official Revenge of the Sith Discussion Thread
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well, I will say that much of this can be open to interpretation. you are right in that.
I am just happy we have a star wars movie again where immediately after most people get back to arguing about subjective meanings of the movie rather than the subjective quality of the movie
(except for the bashers who seem to pretty much never be pleased)
I am just happy we have a star wars movie again where immediately after most people get back to arguing about subjective meanings of the movie rather than the subjective quality of the movie
(except for the bashers who seem to pretty much never be pleased)I saw the movie earlier today, overall it was pretty good. I was still a little let down after hearing all of the positive reviews, but it was so much better than the first two prequels.
Everything that happens after Anakin finds out that Palpatine is the Lord of the Siths was pretty awesome. I loved watching Anakin turn to the dark side. I still get the feeling that there was too much garbage in all of the prequels. I never cared about the politics or the seperatists, the stuff I liked most was the character interaction and the Jedi fighting. And for whatever reason all the big battles and space action sucked, which is weird because it was so awesome in the OT.
I quite liked it, of course having been so underwhelmed with the first two makes exceeding expectations pretty much effortless. 
The stuff that sucks still sucked, but there was less of it and it sucked not as badly. The cool shit was awesome, and really that's what I was hoping for.
Favourite parts:
1) Yoda owning backstabbers
2) Yoda and Obi-Wan owning temple guards
3) the awesome bits of cool technology and imaginative worlds - the wookie machines and locale especially
As for the current argument, I think Mace did get the upper hand a bit and had a shot to win but when he hesitated at Anikin's entry from that point on Palpatine could have taken him at any time.
EDIT:
any else chuckle about how Padme and Ani have the WORST illicit love affair in the galaxy? :lol "we can't reveal our marraige, but hey let's make out in the lobby of the Senate as a crowd of people who know us both slowly walk away! I'm sure no one will turn around!" They even fucking live together, a detail that somehow slipped past the super-sleuths on the Jedi council.
The stuff that sucks still sucked, but there was less of it and it sucked not as badly. The cool shit was awesome, and really that's what I was hoping for.
Favourite parts:
1) Yoda owning backstabbers
2) Yoda and Obi-Wan owning temple guards
3) the awesome bits of cool technology and imaginative worlds - the wookie machines and locale especially
As for the current argument, I think Mace did get the upper hand a bit and had a shot to win but when he hesitated at Anikin's entry from that point on Palpatine could have taken him at any time.
EDIT:
any else chuckle about how Padme and Ani have the WORST illicit love affair in the galaxy? :lol "we can't reveal our marraige, but hey let's make out in the lobby of the Senate as a crowd of people who know us both slowly walk away! I'm sure no one will turn around!" They even fucking live together, a detail that somehow slipped past the super-sleuths on the Jedi council.
borghe said:well, I will say that much of this can be open to interpretation. you are right in that.
I am just happy we have a star wars movie again where immediately after most people get back to arguing about subjective meanings of the movie rather than the subjective quality of the movie
Haha, yeah! It feels neat to be able to do that...
Now... How has the OT changed in light of RotS for you peoples?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Saw it; thought it was great in places, suffered prequel (and general Star Wars) flaws in others.
Plus side:
Siege of Coruscant was mind-blowing opening. Best visualization of a massive air/space battle I think I've seen. Amazing use of free-roaming CGI virtual cameras. The style of the CG and effects work seemed improved a notch from EP1 and 2 - lighting looked more natural (and there as just plain more of it, such as in deep space. Logical lighting.)
For the most part the rest of the action sequences were the most ambitious in concept and insane in execution I've seen to date. Loved Obi Wan's lizard "friend" - added a wonderful, dynamic component to what could have been another droid-busting chase sequence.
Light saber fights were most intense yet, and everything in the movie, well, just looked more "deadly". Sabers looked more dangerous with the sets and scenery taking saber damage left and right - something I always thought should have happened a lot more with lightsabers.
Some parts did truly evoke the tragedy of the story concept very well. There seemed to be more lingering, moot-setting shots than the previous SW films. All too often the mood of a scene seemed cut short by an impatient looking Lucas Wipe (tm), hurrying into the next scene.
Some acting and some dialog was much improved. Obi Wan finally came fully into his own, and honestly, began to look like a true badass who would qualify as a legendary warrior worth seeking out in A New Hope. Dropping down by myself to kick Grevious' shiny metal ass (and succeeding) really moved him up a notch. I wonder if, all told, Obi Wan could be the real greatest warrior of the entire series? (Unfortunately we may never know thanks to a problem below.) Also, Obi Wan's finale tortured screams at the defeated Anakin were really hard hitting. It was convincing, especially with Obi Wan admitting he outright loved Anakin as a brother. But that made it all the worse that...
Minus side:
... after decades of building up to The Duel, it had a WEEK SAUCE FINALE. For christ's sake. Anakin was at the top of his game (of his ENTIRE life), surging with new Dark Side power, and he can't hop upwards a little higher? Ep1 showed Jedi leaping entire stories without breaking a sweat. Anakin should have been able to fucking take off and FLY with as much power as he was riding. The end of the Duel was a huge let down and made it seem as if Obi Wan beat Anakin only because Anakin suddenly became a total klutz. It would have been much better if say, they beat each other down to blood and tears, with Obi taking Anakin apart one limb at a time.
Second runner-up for the Duel finale sucking hard was Padme's weak death. Totally unconvincing and lame sounding, lame looking, all around lame. Whereas Obi Wan got to see Anakin off with gut-wrenching, genuine pain, Padme goes out in typically awful Lucas melodrama.
Speaking of which, Lucas melodrama looked all the worse compared to the scenes that -were- a lot better. I cringed in ways I didn't even cringe for in Ep1. Not because it was worse; it just seemed that way in comparison to the rest of the film.
Plus side:
Siege of Coruscant was mind-blowing opening. Best visualization of a massive air/space battle I think I've seen. Amazing use of free-roaming CGI virtual cameras. The style of the CG and effects work seemed improved a notch from EP1 and 2 - lighting looked more natural (and there as just plain more of it, such as in deep space. Logical lighting.)
For the most part the rest of the action sequences were the most ambitious in concept and insane in execution I've seen to date. Loved Obi Wan's lizard "friend" - added a wonderful, dynamic component to what could have been another droid-busting chase sequence.
Light saber fights were most intense yet, and everything in the movie, well, just looked more "deadly". Sabers looked more dangerous with the sets and scenery taking saber damage left and right - something I always thought should have happened a lot more with lightsabers.
Some parts did truly evoke the tragedy of the story concept very well. There seemed to be more lingering, moot-setting shots than the previous SW films. All too often the mood of a scene seemed cut short by an impatient looking Lucas Wipe (tm), hurrying into the next scene.
Some acting and some dialog was much improved. Obi Wan finally came fully into his own, and honestly, began to look like a true badass who would qualify as a legendary warrior worth seeking out in A New Hope. Dropping down by myself to kick Grevious' shiny metal ass (and succeeding) really moved him up a notch. I wonder if, all told, Obi Wan could be the real greatest warrior of the entire series? (Unfortunately we may never know thanks to a problem below.) Also, Obi Wan's finale tortured screams at the defeated Anakin were really hard hitting. It was convincing, especially with Obi Wan admitting he outright loved Anakin as a brother. But that made it all the worse that...
Minus side:
... after decades of building up to The Duel, it had a WEEK SAUCE FINALE. For christ's sake. Anakin was at the top of his game (of his ENTIRE life), surging with new Dark Side power, and he can't hop upwards a little higher? Ep1 showed Jedi leaping entire stories without breaking a sweat. Anakin should have been able to fucking take off and FLY with as much power as he was riding. The end of the Duel was a huge let down and made it seem as if Obi Wan beat Anakin only because Anakin suddenly became a total klutz. It would have been much better if say, they beat each other down to blood and tears, with Obi taking Anakin apart one limb at a time.
Second runner-up for the Duel finale sucking hard was Padme's weak death. Totally unconvincing and lame sounding, lame looking, all around lame. Whereas Obi Wan got to see Anakin off with gut-wrenching, genuine pain, Padme goes out in typically awful Lucas melodrama.
Speaking of which, Lucas melodrama looked all the worse compared to the scenes that -were- a lot better. I cringed in ways I didn't even cringe for in Ep1. Not because it was worse; it just seemed that way in comparison to the rest of the film.
Personally I thought the mystery of the Original Trilogy's past gave it that allure. Lines such as Vader's "A presence I have not felt since..." and Leia 'remembering' her mother brought much wonder and imagination to a kid's mind over what could have happened. Now its just completely explained.
If I were to show a young kid SW for the first time I would still start from the fourth episode. The closing Episode 3 shot of Owen and Beru in the sunset with Luke relies on the emotion of the OT for its impact.
If I were to show a young kid SW for the first time I would still start from the fourth episode. The closing Episode 3 shot of Owen and Beru in the sunset with Luke relies on the emotion of the OT for its impact.
JoshuaJSlone
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:lol Totally. "Hey, let's discuss our feelings in the middle of the night in front of this big clear glass wall in my apartment."calder said:
I mentioned this in longer form in my bigass first post in this thread, but I don't think I'll ever see Darth Vader the same way again. Before it was hard to see Episode I/II Anakin as IV/V/VI Darth Vader though I knew it to be the case, but it has clicked now. I'd also thought both droids' memories would be wiped, but they only mentioned it for 3P0. R2 will now seem a secretly wise little droid.mrkgoo said:
I will also think "Chewbacca hasn't changed his clothes in 20 freaking years."
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Here's my own thoughts on Sideous visualizations and the force lightning:
Considering the shots from Ep1 and 2, I'm not so sure that Sideous did indeed look as "force drained" as he ends up appearing. One thing that occurs to me is that Sideous could have been refraining from blasting loose with raw power to avoid his appearance changing. It wasn't so much that he couldn't easily summon lightning. It was obviously easy for him against Yoda. There just would have been a permanent toll taken on his body.
What about Dooku?
Well, from where I sit, Dooku's force lightning was impressive, but it seemed obvious he was nowhere near as powerful as Sideous. Yoda contained and reflected Dooku's lightning with relative ease. Sideous however hit Yoda like a Mack truck. It took far more effort for Yoda to overcome Sideous' force lightning in round 2, than it did for him to deal with Dooku.
Considering the shots from Ep1 and 2, I'm not so sure that Sideous did indeed look as "force drained" as he ends up appearing. One thing that occurs to me is that Sideous could have been refraining from blasting loose with raw power to avoid his appearance changing. It wasn't so much that he couldn't easily summon lightning. It was obviously easy for him against Yoda. There just would have been a permanent toll taken on his body.
What about Dooku?
Well, from where I sit, Dooku's force lightning was impressive, but it seemed obvious he was nowhere near as powerful as Sideous. Yoda contained and reflected Dooku's lightning with relative ease. Sideous however hit Yoda like a Mack truck. It took far more effort for Yoda to overcome Sideous' force lightning in round 2, than it did for him to deal with Dooku.
Escape Goat
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It happened because it was written that way. But to maybe explain in context, knowing a thing and actually doing it is different. its the difference between wisdom and experience. Or maybe it was his arrogance. I dont know.
Teh Hamburglar said:
Yeah...exactly, but it still would've been pretty cool to have a leg or two chopped off, and Anakin STILL going at it.... could've looked weird though.
About the recalibration thing - yes, I understand many other Jedi could've survived, but what bearing does this have on the movie stories? none, so it could've been cut out so we could see somw Qui-gon (incidentally, I think it actually works better as spoken, seeing as it makes obi-wan's surprise that much more rich), or Tri-plegic anakin in a ball of light sabre fury.
Phoenix
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mrkgoo said:
Yeah, Obi-Wan is like the Kelso of the Jedi order. I mean Padme isn't married, isn't seen kicking it with anyone else, and you know that Anakin has been seeing her or at least spending a lot of time with her. But when she turns up pregnant FOR MONTHS, it never dawns on you to even ask who the father is?
Nor exhibit any signs of aging
Escape Goat
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Phoenix said:Yeah, Obi-Wan is like the Kelso of the Jedi order. I mean Padme isn't married, isn't seen kicking it with anyone else, and you know that Anakin has been seeing her or at least spending a lot of time with her. But when she turns up pregnant FOR MONTHS, it never dawns on you to even ask who the father is?
Nor exhibit any signs of aging
Chewie is like 200 years old by time the Original Trilogy starts.
having said all that, YODA definitely ages poorly - going from CG-enhanced bad-boy, to senile muppet in 23 years.
However, award for least well aged goes to .....*drum roll* R2D2.
From all flying, all catching, bursting from starfighter agility to bumbling up stairs, and stumbling from X-wings into swamp.
However, award for least well aged goes to .....*drum roll* R2D2.
From all flying, all catching, bursting from starfighter agility to bumbling up stairs, and stumbling from X-wings into swamp.
sefskillz said:Just got back and I can't understand the positive reviews at all.Sure it was better than the last two, but that's not saying much.
some people just have taste. what can I say.
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RANT
I dont want to just single this one post out, but I am really getting sick of all the nitpicking I see people doing (not just here from some people, but on other boards, etc). Everything from too much CG (It is lucas, DUH) to political messaging (give me a break). I dont know how else to say it, but I pretty much take offenses to those kind of "criticisms" of this movie. Maybe I should just say 'it rubs me the wrong way', but I really cringe when I read some of the negative crap people post. The movie was moving, it was emotional, and it was tragic. It ends a saga of movie history, and people are complaining about the voices of the droids??? God forbid you just try and enjoy the movie for the story it offers, the lessons and questions it poses to you, and the all around enjoyment of a well-done movie. Maybe it just hit me a little more personally than most, but I believe is a beautiful piece that should be reveered, not torn apart. Enjoy the movie, if for nothing else it is Star Wars, the LAST one.
ToyMachine228
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I just saw it...And liked it. A lot better than Episode I and II. But ending in the middle like this just seems incomplete. I'm aware that IV, V, and VI are the true ending, but it seems like ending the series like this just isn't right. End in the middle? And ending in a movie, which everyone knew what was going to happen...As good as it was as a movie, it just seems like a bas way to end the series.
pxleyes said:
I see where you're coming from, but this is an internet forum! People will nitpick...and it's Star Wars - the same series where people complain about the colour of a buckle somehwere. having said that, it's not so much complaining as it is people just laying down their opinions...good and bad. I think you'll find the nitpicking as COMPLIMENTS, seeing as that's the worst they can come up with for this movie.
sefskillz:
The movies are better. All the problems I had with the second are not present or lessened in the third. No more 'mom's" and "dad's" for one.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Couple of more thoughts to chime in with...
-I still subscribe to the school of thought that Sidious was downl playing his power in order to get Anakin to sympathize with him. I will say that I think Mace probably did best him with the lightsaber, but Sidious was far from defeated because of that. If his own force lightning was actually doing damage to him, wouldn't he stop using it? Yes, Mace was deflecting it back at him, and yes he was smoking afterwards, but I don't think it was actually hurting him. Just moments later he's dusting himself off, and blowing Mace away. The pure power he demonstrates after Anakin turns on Mace is enough to convince me he had plenty of power in reserve and was just playing possum.
-Regarding Mace Windu's lightsaber abilities. I quit trying to keep track of all the EU stuff a long time ago. Far too many books, but I thought I read somewhere online that Mace's lightsaber style was the most complex and dangerous of all the stles, and that he actually was able to channel and control the Dark Side to aid him in his sabre battles. He is considered to be among the most skilled Jedi ever with the saber, and that is what allowed him to handle Sidious in their duel.
-I still subscribe to the school of thought that Sidious was downl playing his power in order to get Anakin to sympathize with him. I will say that I think Mace probably did best him with the lightsaber, but Sidious was far from defeated because of that. If his own force lightning was actually doing damage to him, wouldn't he stop using it? Yes, Mace was deflecting it back at him, and yes he was smoking afterwards, but I don't think it was actually hurting him. Just moments later he's dusting himself off, and blowing Mace away. The pure power he demonstrates after Anakin turns on Mace is enough to convince me he had plenty of power in reserve and was just playing possum.
-Regarding Mace Windu's lightsaber abilities. I quit trying to keep track of all the EU stuff a long time ago. Far too many books, but I thought I read somewhere online that Mace's lightsaber style was the most complex and dangerous of all the stles, and that he actually was able to channel and control the Dark Side to aid him in his sabre battles. He is considered to be among the most skilled Jedi ever with the saber, and that is what allowed him to handle Sidious in their duel.
I really agree with this. I imagine there are quite a number of people out there who thought it was simply ok but nothing special. and I imagine there are people out there who truly wanted to like it but for whatever reason it didn't live up to their expectations. But I also believe that the majority or people are haters, especially on the various internet boards. people who really had and have no intention of liking it (publicly at least), no matter the actual quality.btrboyev said:
here's the thing.. it ocurred to me when reading the whole joke about Obi-Wan, the world's worst detective thing, that Padme isn't a fixture. I mean she was always on screen in Ep 1 and 2 and had major roles in both, but in the grand scheme of things, and especially as far as the jedi are concerned, she really isn't anybody and just another senator. anakin is the only jedi* who would probably know of her as more than just a name on a list or someone they had to protect many years back. I doubt it if any jedi* even knew that she was pregnant in the sense that they would have no reason to care.
* obviously this excludes obi-wan, who as anakin's best friend and mentor probably knew about everything the entire time. and probably as his best friend let things slide. "follow your feelings to find a clue on his whereabouts" obi-wan stated that anakin was the father, but obi-wan probably knew anakin was the father as soon as he learned padme was pregnant.
edit - kfj - I agree that mace may have bested Sidious with a lightsaber but that sidious was FAR from defeated. as for mace's style, that is EU I guess in the sense that it wasn't in the movie, but it was mentioned in the book. thast is supposedly how sidious lost plapatine's "face" in the battle, he used lightning and it caused feedback with the dark side flowing through mace at that moment.
The Shadow
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I really liked it.
+Hayden's acting for the majority of the last half of the film.
+Actually, pretty much everyone's acting wasn't bad. Ewan and Ian did good jobs.
+The beginning of the movie,
+The fight scenes. Awesome.
+Order 66
+Anakin's turn to the dark side.
+The final shot of the movie. Perfect.
-Some really bad lines.
-Some really, really bad lines
-Too much talking in the first half of the film, with bad lines.
My moviegoing experience was pretty good. There was a lot of cheering during the beginning of the film, for R2D2,
and the cut to the credits. It was great. I'm glad I got to experience that one more time.
+Hayden's acting for the majority of the last half of the film.
Well, particularly the scene where he gets all pissed off at Padme and starts yelling.
+The beginning of the movie,
HUGE space battle + R2D2 comic relief and Palpatine/Dooku :lol
+Order 66
+Anakin's turn to the dark side.
+The final shot of the movie. Perfect.
-Some really bad lines.
-Some really, really bad lines
"NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" :lol
My moviegoing experience was pretty good. There was a lot of cheering during the beginning of the film, for R2D2,
when Yoda sliced up those guys about to kill him,
truffleshuffle83
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B-B-Bomba!
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Look, let's nobody start getting militant about this. There's always an opposite point of view to your own, with an equal weight. You don't have to adopt it, but denying its validity only shows yourself up. It depends a lot on how you come to something in the first place - we all have different histories, and there quickly comes a point where you should realise you're criticising someone else for not being you. There's even an equal and opposite attitude to this one, of which I am very well aware. Conundrum city! But do just let people criticise something they didn't like.
I really enjoyed Episode III, but it had its flaws. I don't know how to feel about it: about any of it. I'd probably have been happier without the new films, but I'm not seriously complaining. I see the original trilogy as the tree, and the new one as some bizarre new branch. I love the tree - really love it - and I'm not sure what effect this branch is having or will eventually have. Ultimately one trilogy has its roots in my childhood, and the other is just some sidleline mystification, but I think in the end I'll decide it can stay. The worst insult was making those changes to IV, V and VI in the special editions. That was evidently the thin end of the wedge for a lifetimes worth of revisions, and I wish Lucas had recognised that the stabililty of his artwork was a greater principle than his own integrity as an artist.
I really enjoyed Episode III, but it had its flaws. I don't know how to feel about it: about any of it. I'd probably have been happier without the new films, but I'm not seriously complaining. I see the original trilogy as the tree, and the new one as some bizarre new branch. I love the tree - really love it - and I'm not sure what effect this branch is having or will eventually have. Ultimately one trilogy has its roots in my childhood, and the other is just some sidleline mystification, but I think in the end I'll decide it can stay. The worst insult was making those changes to IV, V and VI in the special editions. That was evidently the thin end of the wedge for a lifetimes worth of revisions, and I wish Lucas had recognised that the stabililty of his artwork was a greater principle than his own integrity as an artist.
You guys want exposition on my point of view? No? Tough.
-The acting was terrible. Outside of brief moments where Ewan Mcgregor actually acted like a real person, everyone else had the acting ability of cardboard.
-This no doubt sprang from the terrible script. Most characters were just plot devices and not actual characters with any meaning to them(other than maybe Anakin, Padme and Obi-Wan).
-When people weren't being cardboard, they were horribly hamming it up. WTF up with the Emperor? Laughably bad.
-Lucas can't seem to have people interact in a genuine way. Also, what in the hell is up with a fucking droid in every scene? It's like some sort of weird fetish for George, like midgets with Gilliam.
-The Jedi are dumb. We've spent two movies getting this puppet master story shoved down our throats, and the Jedi can't see it? But they're supposed to be super intelligent.
-Lucas backed himself into a corner by making his protagonist also his main villian, and not really making him unlikeable throughout the first two. So he had to introduce the idea that Anakin was doing all of this
Really. It was fucking terrible.
-The acting was terrible. Outside of brief moments where Ewan Mcgregor actually acted like a real person, everyone else had the acting ability of cardboard.
-This no doubt sprang from the terrible script. Most characters were just plot devices and not actual characters with any meaning to them(other than maybe Anakin, Padme and Obi-Wan).
-When people weren't being cardboard, they were horribly hamming it up. WTF up with the Emperor? Laughably bad.
-Lucas can't seem to have people interact in a genuine way. Also, what in the hell is up with a fucking droid in every scene? It's like some sort of weird fetish for George, like midgets with Gilliam.
-The Jedi are dumb. We've spent two movies getting this puppet master story shoved down our throats, and the Jedi can't see it? But they're supposed to be super intelligent.
-Lucas backed himself into a corner by making his protagonist also his main villian, and not really making him unlikeable throughout the first two. So he had to introduce the idea that Anakin was doing all of this
to save Padme. Kill the children to save Padme, Anakin. Kill the Jedi to save Padme. Pour sugar into your grandma's gas tank and laugh snarkily to save Padme, Anakin.
Really. It was fucking terrible.
2nd best Star Wars movie or at least tied with A New Hope
Too bad for the "nooooooo" though :lol
The music use was fantastic too. The score was kinda butchered in epII, but here, wow. Especially during the anakin/obi wan - yoda/palpatine fight. Nice hearing duel of the fates again
Too bad for the "nooooooo" though :lol
The music use was fantastic too. The score was kinda butchered in epII, but here, wow. Especially during the anakin/obi wan - yoda/palpatine fight. Nice hearing duel of the fates again
your opinion is..yes. Everything you just pointed out has zero credibilty.
Acting was much improved, not oscar worthy but not terrible either
Interaction between anakin and obi-wan was spot on.
Emperor was one of the best parts of the movie
There wasn't a droid in every scene, and even then they are fighting a war against droids so I don't see your point.
The dark side has clouded the jedi..stated in almost every star wars movie..you haven't been paying attention.
Once again the dark side feeds off of feelings like love, jealoust, power, loss..it consumed anakin. Again this kind of thing was explained many times.
Kabuki Waq
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ok just saw the movie.
I hated the first 2 movies with a passion.
I have to say i enjoyed episode 3 alot. The action was incredible and the acting was not bad. The only scene that i felt took my out of the movie was the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" scene. Honestly i would put this movie right under the empire strikes back as the second best star wars movie. Dont listen Raul Douke he is just trying too hard to impress Drinky Crow.
It was just a fun movie.
I was surprised that the movie turned out to be good.
I hated the first 2 movies with a passion.
I have to say i enjoyed episode 3 alot. The action was incredible and the acting was not bad. The only scene that i felt took my out of the movie was the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" scene. Honestly i would put this movie right under the empire strikes back as the second best star wars movie. Dont listen Raul Douke he is just trying too hard to impress Drinky Crow.
It was just a fun movie.
I was surprised that the movie turned out to be good.
Just my $0.02 on the "NOOO" bit.
I think it was not strong enough...it was just strong enough to come across as sounding lame.
I wanted walls to buckle with him letting out an almighty scream...basically I wanted just about everything in the immediate vicinity to be destroyed and even have the Emperor running for cover.
I think it was not strong enough...it was just strong enough to come across as sounding lame.
I wanted walls to buckle with him letting out an almighty scream...basically I wanted just about everything in the immediate vicinity to be destroyed and even have the Emperor running for cover.
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My thoughts on the NOOO scene:
Vader still had good in him. Luke senses it in RotJ, if he still has good after 20+ years, it makes sense that right after he's turned he's still got quite a bit, which is manifested in his confusion. That's why he was asking about Padmé's safety. He is still under the control of the Dark Side, however.
Really, Anakin was controlled by his passions. His ultimately blind passion, his love for Padmé, still existed even when he force-gripped her. He was just confused. Vader realizing what he had done and being sorrowful for it (NOOO!) was a logical continuation of events ("What have I done?!")
That said, the delivery was sub-par.
Vader still had good in him. Luke senses it in RotJ, if he still has good after 20+ years, it makes sense that right after he's turned he's still got quite a bit, which is manifested in his confusion. That's why he was asking about Padmé's safety. He is still under the control of the Dark Side, however.
Really, Anakin was controlled by his passions. His ultimately blind passion, his love for Padmé, still existed even when he force-gripped her. He was just confused. Vader realizing what he had done and being sorrowful for it (NOOO!) was a logical continuation of events ("What have I done?!")
That said, the delivery was sub-par.
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