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OXM: Huge Xbox 360 announcement at E3 will keep console "vibrant for many years"
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pieatorium
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Samir Sedlar
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Maybe I will buy one and catch up to the exclusives I missed.
Ace Harding
Member
It will be an Apple TV+, with an "app-store"-like environment, but for XBLA games. XBLA lives on.
* Encourage indie development (not through XBLIG, but a new service that's just XBLA with no distinctions), and allow flexible pricing, releases, and updates on XBLA games
* Subscription service. Pay $X/month or year, you have access to the XBLA library and limited access to the Xbox 360 library (which will grow into eventually unlimited access behind the subscription paywall over a period of years).
* Rental service. Provide 24-hour rentals of full XBLA and XBox 360 games, allow you to maintain saves for multiple rental sessions.
That kind of stuff absolutely WOULD keep me interested for years.
* Encourage indie development (not through XBLIG, but a new service that's just XBLA with no distinctions), and allow flexible pricing, releases, and updates on XBLA games
* Subscription service. Pay $X/month or year, you have access to the XBLA library and limited access to the Xbox 360 library (which will grow into eventually unlimited access behind the subscription paywall over a period of years).
* Rental service. Provide 24-hour rentals of full XBLA and XBox 360 games, allow you to maintain saves for multiple rental sessions.
That kind of stuff absolutely WOULD keep me interested for years.
RadarScope1
Member
Something like this should be most relevant. The price will come down regardless. A console price drop 8 years in is not "huge" news. It's expected. I think they will open up the walled garden a bit by offering more stuff to silver subs, or offering games a la PS+. They need to leverage huge and varied XBLA and GoD back catalog for what we now know for sure is the ONLY device these games will run on, now and in the future.
CrazedProfessional
Member
Stingray?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The vast majority of buyers are not going to buy $499/599 hardware. Moreover, manufacturing ramp-ups will make it highly unlikely Microsoft or any other platform owner will be able to produce at the level that they will later on when a product is mainstream. Typically tech products follow an S-shaped adoption curve like this.
In light of that, while you certainly don't put all your energy in supporting your current platform and you certainly need to ramp up your next platform, you also don't need to drop stuff immediately. Sony made an absolute mint off value PS1 games (and the PSone hardware) well after the PS2 launched. Sony made an absolute mint off PS2 games and PS2 hardware well after the PS3 launched. As long as the prices are stratified enough, you should be targeting different audiences with each.
specialguy
Banned
count on 149. 99 is a basically eol price point. inflation and all that.
the fact ps2 just barely ever went to 99 is proof i dont expect 360 there anytime too soon.
KojiKnight
Member
And what parts of all of that have to do with keeping the 360 relevant for years to come?
many places
Member
Oh shit. That would be pretty sweet.
Crazier stuff? League of Legends, Monster Hunter MMO?
intheinbetween
Member
it is supposed to lack of dvd drive, and maybe it will have built-in a flash memory storage instead of an hdd, so I guess the 99 price point is not impossible
soulassssns
Banned
They going to reveal the non douche version?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
If you're playing a 360, you're really backwards.
None. However I think both EA and MS seem to be quite excited about their plans. Nothing good will come out of this, I fear...
Monty Mole
Member
The $99 mini-360 is the real reason why Sony is bringing GT6 to PS3 this year.
Ace Harding
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Yeah make it compatible with USB external hard drives and they should be able to cut it down past $149. Maybe not $99, but $129 should be doable.
Without an optical drive and hard drive, and shit maybe not even a controller, what are we really talking about BoM-wise?
Edit: Would it be possible to allow storing games on a local wireless network (on an XBone HD, for example) and playing them from there over WiFi? Or too slow?
Palette Swap
Member
Sorry for the ambiguous phrasing of my initial post. My point wasn't about keeping the hardware alive and repositioning it to tap into secondary markets, to milk it for all its worth and have a nice revenue stream while you're launching the newer product. I get that.
My point was more about software support (hence the GT6 example). Basically, I wonder how wise it is to keep releasing titles for a platform you will drop, considering having these titles only on the new platform would be a way to differentiate it from your old product.
Specifically, I had in mind the example of PS3: when it launched, I had basically zero incentive to "upgrade" because most titles that interested me were on PS2 rather than PS3. A lack of BC would make things worse.
Then again, if all these rumblings are only about a change in pricing, there's no issue.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
You can open up Xbox One and expand it with a swapable MXM Graphics Card as well as update the harddrive and ram.
MXM GPUs have been used in Laptops for years, though not a popular technology it has held promise for years. With a larger focus on smaller GPUs like the 670 mini, it could rock.
Basically Microsoft could push the longevity on physical upgrades. Not sure if there is any point to this..
MXM GPUs have been used in Laptops for years, though not a popular technology it has held promise for years. With a larger focus on smaller GPUs like the 670 mini, it could rock.
Basically Microsoft could push the longevity on physical upgrades. Not sure if there is any point to this..
gamemadmax
Member
I think Todd Howard said in an interview that it would be nice if Xbox 360 games are upwards compatible i.e games will perform better on Xbone. So may be it is this feature or the TV add-on will be compatible with 360.
But price cut is more relevant.
But price cut is more relevant.
Well played.
Gorki247
Member
But if the XOne is not backwards compatible how would upwards compatible X360 games work?
Also, I have seen a few people mention the possibility of a X360 with no disc drive, which is fine for digital games but how would you use this with existing retail games?
xbox one, the one device to do everything
*needs extra Kabel Receiver for TV
*needs extra Xbox 360 Mini to play XBox 360 Games
Evolution_1ne
Banned
"it's not backwards compatible with the Next Generation X Box One"
shinobi602
Member
Would that really "surprise people" though like he said?
Always-honest
Banned
Haha.. Ouch
tactilecleaner
Banned
I go for that Xbox live will be free!
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It connects to Xbox One for BC.
If this is a Mini that I can hook up to the new system, I could deal with that. I will pay extra for BC. Absolutely.
Serious post? There are plenty of reason someone would want to sell their current XBox 360 and buy this mini if it does what is described in the rumors. To name a few off the top of my head:
Out of hdmi ports on the tv
Out of space in the entertainment center
Chance of xbox 360 (being older hardware) crapping out
Wanting to sell their xbox 360 for more money than the mini costs to put towards the new console + mini
Why am I dumb for wanting BC on my new system so I can play the games I invested thousands of dollars on for 360 if I ever want to?
NullPointer
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Got my fingers crossed for Silver-enabled Internet Explorer.
Can't tell you how many times I've watched a TV show or HD Movie on my Xbox Video App and wished I could bring up related information via a Bing search.
The Xbone drive would take the discs and the X360 mini process them through the USB connection.
Can't be, since E3 is all about the games...
(Yeah, I guess you are right, this is the $99 version and furthermore it will not be about the games at Microsoft's E3 presence).
Yeah, for 99 buckls I'd buy one to catch up on Bayonetta and a few choice XBLA games.
Any other non-shooters to catch up on?
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Wat, c'mon son
Gorki247
Member
You know that's not what it means. The One would be your main device and let you control the TV and cable receiver (or 360 Mini if true) using the One controllers (pad or kinect). So although you may have other devices connected to the One, you don't have to worry about them. At least that's the thinking behind the name and the 'one device' philosophy- if it works out that way in practice is another question.