Man-is-Obsolete
Member
So long as all platforms sell well, everyone benefits in the end.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Pachter thinks Xbox One will now sell as many units as PS4
- Thread starter Canis lupus
- Start date
I wouldn't say this. Exclusive major games will help.
A lower priced SKU with say less hard drive space alongside the launch of Halo 5 would get a lot of attention I think.
The 4gb 360/kinect bundle is currently 300. The 250gb bundle is currently 400. Not sure of the current sales breakdown but the Xbox one bundle at 500 seems like a steal compared to those.
I get the money part, but it definitely seems that COD is played more by 360 gamers than PS3 according to sales numbers,etc.
googleplex
Member
I think there are enough "fanboys" on each side that this is probably true.
By the way, if any GIF makers want to take this idea and run...
The idea:
Take the scene from The Dark Knight Rises when the bat signal shows up in fire on the Brooklyn Bridge. Replace Batman's face with that guy from Xbox as he walks out of the shadows. Replace the fire/symbol on the bridge with the Xbox 180 logo. When Bane says "Impossible" replace his face with someone from Sony.
By the way, if any GIF makers want to take this idea and run...
The idea:
Take the scene from The Dark Knight Rises when the bat signal shows up in fire on the Brooklyn Bridge. Replace Batman's face with that guy from Xbox as he walks out of the shadows. Replace the fire/symbol on the bridge with the Xbox 180 logo. When Bane says "Impossible" replace his face with someone from Sony.
Not really, not if the customer sees the value in it.
All of you talking about $100 price differences meaning anything should look back on the Gamecube.
googleplex
Member
ProfessorMoran
Member
Would any ISP still subsidize the xbone when the console no longer requires online?
Patcher must be wrong. I men launch aligned the PS3 (terrible awful start and all) outsold the Xbox 360 WW. Now they're launch aligned for real and the PS4 is 100 dollars less expensive with moderately better hardware and their first party is only getting stronger (4 mainstream impact teams between Naughty Dog and Santa Monica with Sucker Punch really starting to shine). The price difference alone will ensure that Microsoft's advantages in the US and UK are blunted, and it will stop Microsoft from making any significant headway (if any)in traditional Sony strongholds in the rest of Europe.
Ehhh that was during the Kinect hype phase that has seemingly died off, as there are few games that support the thing.
Ehhh that was during the Kinect hype phase that has seemingly died off, as there are few games that support the thing.
You don't think Microsoft's shiny new TV integration and multitasking OS nonsense is going to get that same hype? If the new Kinect is as functional as the demos show, you don't think that will cause some word-of-mouth buzz?
Okay, this is really starting to sound like the Gamecube defense.
Those Amazon best-sellers are for the past x units of time only. A better picture can be obtained by looking at the 2013 year:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
Mr_Antimatter
Member
Wow, that does make a difference. Don't expect that to be posted by any pro-xbone folks though.
Yeah, I think it's pretty weak, at the least. Giddily jumping back on ship because Microsoft decided to whisper sweet nothings in your ear is terribly reactionary and emotional, in my opinion. Their intent was clear, and they only changed because they felt like they had to, and I wouldn't be surprised if they start changing things back to the way they were originally planned bit by bit if the Xbone becomes successful.
It's as "sad" as it would be if people had jumped (despite their loathing of the DRM stuff) because MS announced a game that they liked at E3. "Well, I hate what they're trying to do to me as a gamer, but oh man, I just love me some Halo!"
Microsoft is including kinect for a reason and I agree with them. The best way to ensure developers create games with kinect in mind is by including it with every system. I think you'll see basically every game support it in some fashion.
Also I don't think the hype is dead, not when this one is supposedly a giant improvement that delivers on the promises of the original.
Killafornia
Neo Member
..
Killing_Joke
Member
Kinect is barely 3 years old. 24 mil people aren't just going to fork down $500. But going by their ridiculous new 360 slim pricing. They feel like they have gamers by the balls and they would buy the system at any price. Which is true for the most part.
Tallshortman
Member
Like previously mentioned, he must mean US which I can definitely see. WW Sony will eat up a lot of what MS gained in Europe, dominate asia again. That combined with regained market share in US will probably result in a comfortable but not dominant sales lead.
Sorc3r3r
Member
My opinion too...
plagiarize
Banned
it will now be competitive I think, yeah. at least in America and the UK.
googleplex
Member
I would say pathetic and sad.
And I'm sure many of these same people were the ones that absolutely refused to believe all the Always Online/no used games "rumors" before the Xbone reveal. And then proceeded to do mental gymnastics to somehow justify this out right attack on their rights as a consumer.
But hey! Now everything is all right! but they can't understand why people aren't so eager to run back into Microsoft's loving embrace.
Worldwide Microsoft is going to be beaten hard.
PS3 won with so many handicaps it's ridiculous, PS4 not only won't have those but it's actually going to have many advantages.
UK will probably be reconquered by Sony as well.
In the US, I expect them to be close, Microsoft definetly won't lead them by 14m units. The gap will be less than 5m in the long run, whoever comes on top.
Also there's this issue of yields and manufacturing capacity pending on Microsoft's head which could have a strong impact on launch figures if MS can't fix the situation in time.
PS3 won with so many handicaps it's ridiculous, PS4 not only won't have those but it's actually going to have many advantages.
UK will probably be reconquered by Sony as well.
In the US, I expect them to be close, Microsoft definetly won't lead them by 14m units. The gap will be less than 5m in the long run, whoever comes on top.
Also there's this issue of yields and manufacturing capacity pending on Microsoft's head which could have a strong impact on launch figures if MS can't fix the situation in time.
That $100 was a pretty big factor with the PS3 and 360.
I do not understand why everyone does not come to this conclusion
Any one platform taking dominance in a generation is horrible for the consumer
PSN/PS+ is where it is because of competition from LIVE
XB1 is no longer using online DRM because of the the PS4
Kinect/Move was born because of the Wii
.
.
.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
All indications right now are that PS4 will have more units available.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
A bugatti only costs two dollars per hour for ten years. Easy as pie, right? You can stretch anything out like that, yet it doesn't make it anymore viable for everyone because they need to drop those $500 + tax that very moment.
Nintendo is only a threat to PS4 if the PS4 was competing with the 3DS, which it's not.
It will. The PS3 sold fairly well during the first year despite a high price and worse 3rd party support. The US and UK will continue to carry Microsoft's platforms to the clouds.
Uk hell fucking no, that price point is too much its ps3 level launch price to the penny.
It sold to the die hard fans how do you think ms got the lead it has here, it was down to price. Price is king in the uk and £429 is too much it will sell to die hards but after that it will be an all out war with sony having a box way cheaper.
