Japanese games tend to be less marketed than major western AAA games. Which is reflected sales numbers.
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PAL Charts - Week 36, 2015
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Jarod McChicken
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If you want the biggest split ever seen in favor of PS4, I suggest we wait for the UK release of Kingdom Hearts 3 
Newtype-001
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Acquiescence
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I wasn't the one who goof'd blud!
PES usually sells enough to be number 1 for a week, but against Forza 6 and Destiny the same week (even with the latter being technically DLC), you may be right.
Aceofspades
Banned
Did X1 version recoup its own costs? If I was a dev I will be questioning making this version all together.
This split along with the rest we've been getting this year kind of makes you wonder how close X1 and Ps4 really are in the UK? I mean everyone one keeps assuming the consumers are close in sales but the gap in software sales seems to have increased this year. I us what I'm asking is are they actually close in sales or just closer in sales in the UK compared to the EU?
It's relatively close in UK between consoles sales (i.e. 3.5:1?) but I suspect the PS4 is just better at driving software due to install base and exclusive marketing on some of the biggest titles released this year (barring TW3).
It's definitely worth Konami developing an MGS V Xbox version of the game and the same is true for majority of large AAA titles.
However for the smaller studios/niche games like those coming Japan, I'd imagine some of them might consider scrapping XB1 versions as it's not worth the money sink considering ROI on that platform.
Jarod McChicken
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Xbox One should be good in UK, really. A few weeks ago you had more Xbox One games in the top 10 than PS4. Some games like TES Online also perform a little better on Xbox One.
In UK, Gears of War is above Until Dawn and when you look at France, the Supermassive game is number one and the Xbox One TPS is only fourth.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Why on earth are you comparing PS3 sales to the XB1 sales?
MGS5 wasn't officially released that week, it's all the sales that broke street date.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Beating MGS2 seems pretty good, but it's cool to see that AK & the Witcher have done really well in their individual first week too.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
This is why Sony shouldn't bother trying to lock up Japanese developed games. It's wasted money. Why should they pay millions of dollars for FF7remake exclusivity if it's gonna sell 85%+ of it sales on PS4 anyway? The mere excistence of these games are a win for Sony, heck if I were Sony I would even point out to Japanese developers that they can release their games on XBO and PC too if that it takes to make them.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
How do you know they did? Market share is a HUGE factor for deciding which console to support. Why wouldn't the company with the most money pay the most for exclusivity? Because it would cost them far too much. Why would it cost them far too much? Market share.
Because many people predicted PS3 version > XBO version
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It was a bit of a random post without context, don't you think? I didn't see a single person mentioning it in this thread and one would have thought you'd have at least provided that context.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
I don't. I only used FF7remake as an example to point out how useless it is for Sony to persue these types of games for exclusivity. But I don't know if there is actually a deal in place for that game.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
There may well be a deal in place, and whilst we can't discount the involvement of money, I'm sure Sony pull out the software splits before they pull out their wallets. In terms off Japanese games, I'm almost certain the market share in Japan is the main factor. That's why the 3DS gets far more support than the Vita over there, regardless of what Phil Spencer says.
Cuz FF franchise is still big, ESPECIALLY No. 7.
SolidSnakex
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It still shocks me that they didn't delay MM or move it up. I just don't get the logic of launching directly against MGSV.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Considering the movie isn't out on disc until beginning of October, they could have tied it in closer to the release which would have moved it out of the way. Hell, even this week would have been better.
The movie released on disc in the US same day as the game, so I guess the game was aligned with that.
Silent Chief
Member
The interesting split will be Tomb Raider, although good luck figuring that one out.
Good launch for MGSV - pretty huge split for UK though. That doesn't bode well for Xbox outside UK as that's probably the best split outside US they'll get. Not surprising given the history of the franchise but still unfortunate for MS.
Looks like Mad Max didn't bomb (I thought it might) and sold okay for the region. Word of mouth seems fairly positive despite the more average to good tone of most reviews so hopefully it'll do alright (as we need car combat games IMHO).
Until Dawn holding strong too, that's clearly going to do pretty well all told for the type of game it is. Gears holding not bad in UK although outside UK it clearly didn't generate that much interest in PAL regions. A solid remaster but unless it really delivers in US it might show less interest than I expected for a premier exclusive franchise. God of War also seemed muted and both came after weaker franchise entry titles sales wise so perhaps that accounts for it.
PAL starting to wake up with the bigger releases now thank goodness.
Looks like Mad Max didn't bomb (I thought it might) and sold okay for the region. Word of mouth seems fairly positive despite the more average to good tone of most reviews so hopefully it'll do alright (as we need car combat games IMHO).
Until Dawn holding strong too, that's clearly going to do pretty well all told for the type of game it is. Gears holding not bad in UK although outside UK it clearly didn't generate that much interest in PAL regions. A solid remaster but unless it really delivers in US it might show less interest than I expected for a premier exclusive franchise. God of War also seemed muted and both came after weaker franchise entry titles sales wise so perhaps that accounts for it.
PAL starting to wake up with the bigger releases now thank goodness.
I think €40 "GOTY Edition" could still sell fairly well on PS4 in Europe.
Any reason for the shortage?
Also does anyone have an estimate for Until Dawn's sales?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
It's a bit unclear if Sony undershipped or the people bought this like crazy. In my Media Markt in germany people bought it like crazy.
Acquiescence
Member
I don't think Sony had particularly high expectations for the game, both critically and commercially. Once the reviews rolled in and it started getting a good buzz, Sony reacted accordingly. But yeah, they most probably undershipped.
Chobel
Member
And people thought 80:20 is crazy.
The split is a bit bigger than I expected but not very surprising.
What's surprising to me though is that MGS is smaller seller than I thought.
And I guess Sony is the biggest winner here now that MGS is multiplat, no preferential conditions on PSN etc. I'm sure so full profit margins and it still should end up being easily with 75% of all SKU's even with PC included.
Until Dawn with very good drop, game should have some legs, I wonder what NPD will show, Halloween is majorly a US thing so it should get a second wind there as well.
What's surprising to me though is that MGS is smaller seller than I thought.
And I guess Sony is the biggest winner here now that MGS is multiplat, no preferential conditions on PSN etc. I'm sure so full profit margins and it still should end up being easily with 75% of all SKU's even with PC included.
Until Dawn with very good drop, game should have some legs, I wonder what NPD will show, Halloween is majorly a US thing so it should get a second wind there as well.
Aceofspades
Banned
Thats just UK, add WW sales + Japan and the split would be easily +85% for PS4. I might even say 90%
Would surprise me if mad Max number were actually quite low. The launch of this game was weirdly timed and the quality probably not good enough. I think it would have done great as a June/July game. The it also would have been able to ride the movie wave as well.
Weird here in Germany the marketing for this game is off the chain. Basically every cinema I went to had standees and trailers before the films.
Ha, I was about to remark on the changing landscape of gaming where Batman and Witcher have bigger openings and that Japan should somehow find a way to synergise with Asia.
RespectThySole
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Pretty much what I expected.
Just a single week where xbox sells better then ps4 is more of an anomaly then proof that they're anyway near one another in terms of sales. TES online, again a poor example since ps4 already has the vastly more popular FF14. And Gears of war selling better then Until dawn, come on son.
Pankratous
Member
Gears sold better than Until Dawn because it's an established IP, a very highly rated franchise, the second biggest exclusive franchise for a platform and contained (3?) many games in one disc for a lower than full price package.
It's hardly rocket science as to why it sold more.
Gears Ultimate is only the first game, but the rest of what you said is true.
Pankratous
Member
Thought it came with a digital download backwards compatibility of the other titles (if you bought it within a limited time period*?)
Yeah, don't know if it was Game exclusive, but they were advertising it came with 360 versions of 2,3 and Judgement.
JohnnyWestlake
Banned
Gotta wonder how Devil's Third has been doing... did it even make the charts on it's release week?
Ok, misunderstood what you meant by in one disc.