can't take consoles seriously when you can't do anything to fix them.
Skyrim. PS3.
Still crashes to this day.
can't take consoles seriously when you can't do anything to fix them.
This is the main reason of my loathing towards PC Gaming. I can understand people who see this as a non issue or even "enjoy" this bullshit but not me. I was there, and I have no interest in coming back.
Insert the disc and play. That's all I want. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'm the furthest thing from a "tech nerd", I just google my issue and I fix it.
It's really not hard.
Skyrim. PS3.
Still crashes to this day.
Insert disc > mandatory game install > delete previous installs to make room on puny HDD > download dashboard update > sign into paid online service > start game > shit graphics and framerate.
Console gaming 2013.
Configuring an INI file? I haven't done that in years.
Isn't customizing and tinkering to your best interests THE point of PC gaming ?
Also, what game made you download a missing .dll file ? That never happened to me.
This is the main reason of my loathing towards PC Gaming. I can understand people who see this as a non issue or even "enjoy" this bullshit but not me. I was there, and I have no interest in coming back.
Insert the disc and play. That's all I want. Nothing more, nothing less.
One of the reasons I don't enjoy PC gaming as much. The first time you start up a game.
I still remember that the first time I started up Dead Rising 2, I had to fix my audio setting to get it to work. I heard it was something that had to do with Win8, I don't remember.
Having been a PC gamer for almost as long as I've played video games, the things you complain about are what makes PC gaming fun to me. The extra effort for the perfect gaming experience is exciting and well worth it.
I love tinkering.
Insert disc > mandatory game install > delete previous installs to make room on puny HDD > download dashboard update > sign into paid online service > start game > shit graphics and framerate.
Console gaming 2013.
But you just put in the BR disc and play.
I've been primarily a pc gamer for about three years now, and while it was awesome in the beginning to be able to play games at 1080p/60 frames a second. My tolerance for the level of bullshit I have to put up with has about run its course. It's not the price of entry, the mouse and keyboard, or playing games at a desk; those issues have already been addressed and largely fixed. It's the constant pc tinkering and general clunkyness that keeps people from pc gaming.
Disabling a keyboard driver to get a game to work, editing ini files and replacing .dll files on a regular basis, certain settings like DX11 or physx breaking a game, windows updates interfering with your game in the middle of a session, limiting certain games to two cores so they don't crash every 10 minutes, poor optimization, games being broken at launch, shitty 3rd party drm, and a whole bunch of other crap that is still common place and shouldn't be tolerated.
I just now reached my breaking point after not being able to progress in Arkham City due to constant crashes during the Mr. Freeze fight. I tried just about every fix I can think of: disable rivatuner-nope, disable D3Doverider-nope, evga precision-nope, restore all default nvida values- nope, update and restore drivers-nope, disable DX11 and physx- nope, and the list goes on and on ad nauesum for about an hour before I just decided to say fuck it, I'm not putting up with this anymore. There goes my money and about 6+ hours worth of play time down the drain. The time I spend to play games shouldn't be taken up with me pulling my hair out just to get a game to function properly, or just work for that matter.
And don't think I'm just being ignorant to the share of issues that plague consoles as well, but at least the only example of a console game I can think of that just flat out refuses to work is Skyrim for the ps3. Spending time to "fix" pc games and deal with the bs is a regular thing for me These issues have really made it hard to decide whether or not I should upgrade, or go ahead with consoles for next gen and for-go the extra bells and whistles with pc gaming.
I truly hope Steam os addresses to fix these issues, otherwise pc gaming will always be a shadow to consoles in terms of public awareness and publisher recognition. I say this as a core pc gamer, and I'm sure I'll get plenty of people playing dumb and telling me how wrong I am, but until people start to really address this and voice concerns, pc gaming will never be something that's taken seriously.
Isn't customizing and tinkering to your best interests THE point of PC gaming ?
Also, what game made you download a missing .dll file ? That never happened to me.
Insert disc > mandatory game install > delete previous installs to make room on puny HDD > download dashboard update > sign into paid online service > start game > shit graphics and framerate.
Console gaming 2013.
This is the main reason of my loathing towards PC Gaming. I can understand people who see this as a non issue or even "enjoy" this bullshit but not me. I was there, and I have no interest in coming back.
Insert the disc and play. That's all I want. Nothing more, nothing less.
You have to fire-proof your machine instead of putting out fires. I rarely struggle with the issues you describe, probably because I keep things very clean and simple. I didn't install the stupid app that came with my mouse, I use generic drivers where possible, I run very few background applications, I delete any application that doesn't serve my experience well (even if it was installed by a game, as long as research shows I don't need it), I run Steam as administrator to keep non-Steam games from having issues, I don't use any virus protection outside of what now comes with Windows, etc...
That doesn't change your argument that you have to learn how to prevent and fix issues. Just sharing my experience with the platform.
Insert disc > mandatory game install > delete previous installs to make room on puny HDD > download dashboard update > sign into paid online service > start game > shit graphics and framerate.
Console gaming 2013.
Unfortunately, consoles seem on track to borrow only the worst from PC gaming with none of the advantages.
Each time I buy a new game on PS3 I'm reminded of this shit. The "insert disc -> play" games are long gone. I really hope this changes on the PS4.
Every gaming machine has drawbacks.
Going from a console-only player to a PC was like going from renting an apartment to owning a house. It's more customizable, bigger, nicer looking and spacious, but guess what-- you have to maintain it all, and pay for it. It's worth it to have one of course, but it's not like it doesn't come with its own set of problems.
I love my gaming PC and am currently using it 90% more than my consoles to play anything, but there are times when it frustrates me to no end.
Start PC ( Always slower than even the slowest console ) > Start Steam > Launch Game > Tweak Graphical settings > Driver Crash > Reboot PC > Download latest drivers...
I mean this is not always the PC Gaming user experience. And, of course, the process you described isn't' always the console user experience. But let me tell you that even in the worst case escenario ( that easily can be the one you posted ) is never close to the bullshit you can go through with a PC. No, not even close.
I have my days where I've about had enough of it too but thankfully I don't run into too many tech issues.
I honestly very rarely have an issue with a PC game that takes longer than 5-10 minutes to get up and running.
Usually it's a minute of messing with graphic settings to get what I like and I go. PC gaming is easy for me.
Start PC ( Always slower than even the slowest console ) > Start Steam > Launch Game > Tweak Graphical settings > Driver Crash > Reboot PC > Download latest drivers...
I mean this is not always the PC Gaming user experience. And, of course, the process you described isn't' always the console user experience. But let me tell you that even in the worst case escenario ( that easily can be the one you posted ) is never close to the bullshit you can go through with a PC. No, not even close.
Start PC ( Always slower than even the slowest console ) > Start Steam > Launch Game > Tweak Graphical settings > Driver Crash > Reboot PC > Download latest drivers...
I mean this is not always the PC Gaming user experience. And, of course, the process you described isn't' always the console user experience. But let me tell you that even in the worst case escenario ( that easily can be the one you posted ) is never close to the bullshit you can go through with a PC. No, not even close.
The paradise on PC is not in everything being perfect from the start. It's in giving you the opportunity (and responsibility) of making things perfect for you.Not like anyone here can change that, nor do i or anyone expect them to, but the whole "master race", everything-is-paradise-here is plain conjecture, made up fantasy.
This thread is full of great analogies.Going from a console-only player to a PC was like going from renting an apartment to owning a house. It's more customizable, bigger, nicer looking and spacious, but guess what-- you have to maintain it all, and pay for everything. It's worth it to have one of course, but it's not like it doesn't come with its own set of problems.
Start PC ( Always slower than even the slowest console ) > Start Steam > Launch Game > Tweak Graphical settings > Driver Crash > Reboot PC > Download latest drivers...
I mean this is not always the PC Gaming user experience. And, of course, the process you described isn't' always the console user experience. But let me tell you that even in the worst case escenario ( that easily can be the one you posted ) is never close to the bullshit you can go through with a PC. No, not even close.