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PC : Grand Theft Auto IV, Who's playing it ? And how?
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brain_stew
Member
God bless the piracy community.
Due to the retarded and broken SecuROM launcher I was unable to play my game for days and both Rockstar and SecuROM were hopeless and slow trying to fix my problem but the piracy community can actually get my legitamite retail copy working.
Now please lets forget about all this SecuROM BS in future so i don't have to go to such stupid lengths and risk getting a virus just to be able to play a game I payed £28 hard earned pound for.
News on the new Catalyst driver is great, looking forward to see what that does for my performance.
Due to the retarded and broken SecuROM launcher I was unable to play my game for days and both Rockstar and SecuROM were hopeless and slow trying to fix my problem but the piracy community can actually get my legitamite retail copy working.
Now please lets forget about all this SecuROM BS in future so i don't have to go to such stupid lengths and risk getting a virus just to be able to play a game I payed £28 hard earned pound for.
News on the new Catalyst driver is great, looking forward to see what that does for my performance.
brain_stew
Member
DustoMan said:
Ha, I guess you didn't hear about the PC port then, apparently its even worse than the mess that was the 360 game, and won't even function if you've got more than 2 gigs of RAM.
After finally being able to spend time with the game, by God is it ugly, the jaggies and shimmering/dithering shadows make it the IQ look terrible, and enabling the filter gets rid of any small amount of texture definition there might have been. Whichever option you go with, you're sharply reminded why you got away from console gaming in the first place. Even with my CPU clocked to 3.65ghz I still can't hit 40fps, what a joke.
new Nvidia drivers that apparently contain magical fairies who will fix the game and bring all your GTA 4 dreams to life!
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_gtaiv_downloads.html
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_gtaiv_downloads.html
Caesar III
Member
I already used this driver and got a good performance boost.
But I hope the Patch this/next week will boost it again.
But I hope the Patch this/next week will boost it again.
MrPing1000
Member
DustoMan said:
I wonder what went wrong, cause GTA 3, VC and SA are all brilliantly ported to PC, can't fault them really. Although SA was a bit dodgy until the patch came out.
Caesar III
Member
those 2 games used renderware, which was also avaiable for the pc.MrPing1000 said:
I think the problem is their own engine, because its so heavily multithreaded and not as optimized as it should.
I wonder what's taking the patch so long? If they got that retarded, "it's only 1% of users" logic out of their heads and are revising their list of things they planned to fix I'm all for it. Still, it's ridiculous that M$ has to be so involved, the patch could already be done but I'm waiting for their approval thanks to an integrated service from them I never even asked for.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
MrPing1000 said:
They really weren't. GTA3 was notoriously horrible.
The older games did have some annoying problems, but they were nothing like the latest game. I think the most annoying thing is the "Frame Limiter" feature. Why the hell would you need a frame limiter when the average pc out around that time had way better hardware than current consoles. On my AthlonXP 1700 with a Geforce 3 I could get like 40-50 fps playing the much better looking Mafia which was also a huge free-roaming game, GTA without the frame limiter turned off gave me all sorts of problems. Rockstar likes to release ports that aren't up to standard and then let either the consumers wallet, or time itself sort out their somewhat disappointing and now awful efforts.
I remember another problem with the old ports was sometimes bugs that had no business being in the consoles managed to make their way into the pc versions too. Even when they patched the games, the bugs still remained in some cases. Like Vice City has a bug where the revolver refuses to fire sometimes often getting you wasted on many missions. GTA3 had a messed up bug where if you saved over an old save file a certain gang would be missing so when you had to interact with the gang you couldn't because they were gone. This like the revolver gun doesn't always happen, but they are certainly there. I got the missing gang bug when I replayed 3 in anticipation of IV.
I remember another problem with the old ports was sometimes bugs that had no business being in the consoles managed to make their way into the pc versions too. Even when they patched the games, the bugs still remained in some cases. Like Vice City has a bug where the revolver refuses to fire sometimes often getting you wasted on many missions. GTA3 had a messed up bug where if you saved over an old save file a certain gang would be missing so when you had to interact with the gang you couldn't because they were gone. This like the revolver gun doesn't always happen, but they are certainly there. I got the missing gang bug when I replayed 3 in anticipation of IV.
Typhoon.Au79
Neo Member
Only had one prob with it at the beginning. Their social club was down, so i had to go offline mode to start the game. But besides that, no probs whatsoever. I just used recommended settings and started the game
quadcore oc'ed at 3.6ghz
Radeon HD4870
4gb ram
kinda sad i can't run it on max...but pc ports of rockstar games were all had crud optimization, so w/e
quadcore oc'ed at 3.6ghz
Radeon HD4870
4gb ram
kinda sad i can't run it on max...but pc ports of rockstar games were all had crud optimization, so w/e
Caesar III
Member
Ok, I'll start my game to download the patch. Hopefully it increases performance for me too.
erm, where to get the patch? ah, got it, fileplanet is the only source I found so far.
erm, where to get the patch? ah, got it, fileplanet is the only source I found so far.
Mr.Potato Head
Banned
brain_stew said:
I hear ya dude..this is the problem with PC gaming lately.. lackluster ports.
I have a Qx9650 OC'd @ 4.6ghz via TT Cooler, 4GB DDR 3 ram, 9800 GX2 1gb videocard and i cant get a solid 60FPS at all... and this game does not even look anywhere as nice as Crysis does and GTAIV runs worse then Crysis!!! and Rockstar had a fucking grip of months to smooth shit out...looks to me the only thing they did was make the game harder to play on the PC when compared to the consoles.. ...this is uncalled for, i could see the game running like this if it were putting Crysis to shame at the same time..but come on now..
I took the chance and bit the bullet and bought GTAIV off steam..boy was that a mistake.
This is why i just about had it with PC gaming and all these high end PC's i use to love building for PC's aswesome cutting edge exclusives...now days, what do what got as PC's latest and greatest "cutting edge" exclusive game? Crysis and Crysis WarHead..thats it!!
Im sorry, as much as a PC enthusiasts i have been since my C64/Amiga 500 days... PC gaming is complete SHIT now days..i can honestly say without any doubt in side me that console gaming is much much better and flourishing waaaaaay more then PC is as a gaming platform
Its sad too because half the reason why i took so much pride in building high end PC's were for the performance results i could achive with the hardware i choose. Its like building your own Nascar Racer and taking it to the tracks to see how it performs and then tweaking the hell out of your system to get tip top benchmarks or to conquer a game like Crysis in getting over the 120FPS mark,etc *crysis is a bad example lol* but you get my point....thats part of the reason in why PC gamer enthusiasts spent the money they did..but when your only getting one fucking cutting edge pc exclusive game every two years... why the fuck does anyone want a high end gaming PC for when a 360 or PS3 is just cheaper, looks damn near as good if not better in some cases depending on teh game and developer and then we got the ease of use... things are quite fucked up right now for the PC as a gaming platform....sucks too.
But one good thing i can say is that im a "true gamer" i dont like fanboyism get in the way of avoiding other platforms..thats why i own them all..because they all offer somerthing the others dont..so if your a hard core gamer.. you gotta have the best of the best and from all platforums...correct me if im wrong
MrTroubleMaker
Member
I think it effects the 360 controller for pc? not surewmat said:
Visualante
Member
So I get the game running. I play a few hours and then try multiplayer- it's still broken. Playing peak time on weekend you expect to be able to find a deathmatch/team deathmatch game- but you'd be lucky. When I did get in I was disconnected because my PC was running too slowly several times, and then it crashed. Shouldn't do when you're playing with 3 germans out of a touted 32.
I lost my patience with the multiplayer considering I bought a 4850 to play it. What makes me laugh is that Microsoft are having an event this weekend where you can play some of the staff at Rockstar. I bet they can't even find a game themselves. I fear the multiplayer will never reach that critical mass because there are just too many hurdles to get into a multiplayer game. Number one being the current inability to self patch GFW in game, when it is a required component. If I worked at Rockstar I'd be really embarassed about the multiplayer.
Left4Dead, grumble.
I lost my patience with the multiplayer considering I bought a 4850 to play it. What makes me laugh is that Microsoft are having an event this weekend where you can play some of the staff at Rockstar. I bet they can't even find a game themselves. I fear the multiplayer will never reach that critical mass because there are just too many hurdles to get into a multiplayer game. Number one being the current inability to self patch GFW in game, when it is a required component. If I worked at Rockstar I'd be really embarassed about the multiplayer.
Left4Dead, grumble.
bee
Member
Mr.Potato Head said:I hear ya dude..this is the problem with PC gaming lately.. lackluster ports.
I have a Qx9650 OC'd @ 4.6ghz via TT Cooler, 4GB DDR 3 ram, 9800 GX2 1gb videocard and i cant get a solid 60FPS at all... and this game does not even look anywhere as nice as Crysis does and GTAIV runs worse then Crysis!!! and Rockstar had a fucking grip of months to smooth shit out...looks to me the only thing they did was make the game harder to play on the PC when compared to the consoles.. ...this is uncalled for, i could see the game running like this if it were putting Crysis to shame at the same time..but come on now..
I took the chance and bit the bullet and bought GTAIV off steam..boy was that a mistake.
This is why i just about had it with PC gaming and all these high end PC's i use to love building for PC's aswesome cutting edge exclusives...now days, what do what got as PC's latest and greatest "cutting edge" exclusive game? Crysis and Crysis WarHead..thats it!!
Im sorry, as much as a PC enthusiasts i have been since my C64/Amiga 500 days... PC gaming is complete SHIT now days..i can honestly say without any doubt in side me that console gaming is much much better and flourishing waaaaaay more then PC is as a gaming platform
Its sad too because half the reason why i took so much pride in building high end PC's were for the performance results i could achive with the hardware i choose. Its like building your own Nascar Racer and taking it to the tracks to see how it performs and then tweaking the hell out of your system to get tip top benchmarks or to conquer a game like Crysis in getting over the 120FPS mark,etc *crysis is a bad example lol* but you get my point....thats part of the reason in why PC gamer enthusiasts spent the money they did..but when your only getting one fucking cutting edge pc exclusive game every two years... why the fuck does anyone want a high end gaming PC for when a 360 or PS3 is just cheaper, looks damn near as good if not better in some cases depending on teh game and developer and then we got the ease of use... things are quite fucked up right now for the PC as a gaming platform....sucks too.
But one good thing i can say is that im a "true gamer" i dont like fanboyism get in the way of avoiding other platforms..thats why i own them all..because they all offer somerthing the others dont..so if your a hard core gamer.. you gotta have the best of the best and from all platforums...correct me if im wrong
why do you have a $1000 processor with an outdated graphics card?? 4.6ghz is a 24/7 overclock?? i don't know anyone who has one at that speed except for pure suicide runs/benchmarking and that's on custom water, TT cooler is an acronym for an air cooler?
faceless007
Member
You're getting kind of stale.Mr.Potato Head said:
bee
Member
Hazaro said:
9800gx2 is still a decent card in games that support sli and aren't vram limited i.e gta4 doesn't support sli at all and is massively vram limited
but it suffers greatly from microstuttering and 512mb is increasingly becoming inadequate for high res gaming
4.6ghz on an air cooler with a 130w cpu hahah, gimme a screen with hours of a cpu benchmark running alongside coretemp/realtemp
Visualante
Member
It's not flawless, if you have a discussion with a character in public the textures might hop in and out as the camera swaps back and forward between the two. I'm running high rendering, medium textures. Could be why. It's acceptable anyway. I occasionally see the road texture hop in but yeah huge improvement to be quite honest.hobbitx said:
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
The 9800x2 rocks pretty hard, especially for the games programmed to take advantage of multiple GPUs (like DMC4 and the upcoming RE5 and SFIV).bee said:
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Mr.Potato Head said:I hear ya dude..this is the problem with PC gaming lately.. lackluster ports.
I have a Qx9650 OC'd @ 4.6ghz via TT Cooler, 4GB DDR 3 ram, 9800 GX2 1gb videocard and i cant get a solid 60FPS at all... and this game does not even look anywhere as nice as Crysis does and GTAIV runs worse then Crysis!!! and Rockstar had a fucking grip of months to smooth shit out...looks to me the only thing they did was make the game harder to play on the PC when compared to the consoles.. ...this is uncalled for, i could see the game running like this if it were putting Crysis to shame at the same time..but come on now..
I took the chance and bit the bullet and bought GTAIV off steam..boy was that a mistake.
This is why i just about had it with PC gaming and all these high end PC's i use to love building for PC's aswesome cutting edge exclusives...now days, what do what got as PC's latest and greatest "cutting edge" exclusive game? Crysis and Crysis WarHead..thats it!!
Im sorry, as much as a PC enthusiasts i have been since my C64/Amiga 500 days... PC gaming is complete SHIT now days..i can honestly say without any doubt in side me that console gaming is much much better and flourishing waaaaaay more then PC is as a gaming platform
Its sad too because half the reason why i took so much pride in building high end PC's were for the performance results i could achive with the hardware i choose. Its like building your own Nascar Racer and taking it to the tracks to see how it performs and then tweaking the hell out of your system to get tip top benchmarks or to conquer a game like Crysis in getting over the 120FPS mark,etc *crysis is a bad example lol* but you get my point....thats part of the reason in why PC gamer enthusiasts spent the money they did..but when your only getting one fucking cutting edge pc exclusive game every two years... why the fuck does anyone want a high end gaming PC for when a 360 or PS3 is just cheaper, looks damn near as good if not better in some cases depending on teh game and developer and then we got the ease of use... things are quite fucked up right now for the PC as a gaming platform....sucks too.
But one good thing i can say is that im a "true gamer" i dont like fanboyism get in the way of avoiding other platforms..thats why i own them all..because they all offer somerthing the others dont..so if your a hard core gamer.. you gotta have the best of the best and from all platforums...correct me if im wrong
CRTL F "True Gamer", results found
there you go, back in the swing of things, mr potato man. You were slipping
A.I. needs recoding though, responses are sounding too similar now though,don't worry I'll call maintenance
Indeed, this port is still built on top of a fine mess and it still shows, but at least they addressed some of the biggest issues with the port. They didn't even mention the patch actually did contain a texture fix. It's almost like they don't want to acknowledge they shipped the port with such a game halting bug.Visualante said:
Caesar III
Member
just lower your settings to be in the yellow or even green area! That should fix the connection lost problems!Visualante said:
Haunted said:
Improved some, break some.
I love this game. Runs pretty good on my PC.
The video editor is somewhat useful. Gotta save those accidents
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCn58CaU7io#
Mr.Potato Head said:But one good thing i can say is that im a "true gamer" i dont like fanboyism get in the way of avoiding other platforms..thats why i own them all..because they all offer somerthing the others dont..so if your a hard core gamer.. you gotta have the best of the best and from all platforums...correct me if im wrong
oh lord
Played the game finally for about 2-3 hours last night.. I'm not sure why everyone was so excited about the game in the first week after launch, since the start really hasn't captured my interest that much (but being a fan of the GTA series, i'll be continuing) and so far certainly nothing oscar worthy
Is it just me, or is the handbrake much less effective in this game than san andreas and vice city, and was that present in the 360 or ps3 version too?
One question I have though is why won't it let me choose my graphical settings? a few things are locked in place, despite being okay settings, i still wouldn't mind having a look at what the game would look like on future computers
Is it just me, or is the handbrake much less effective in this game than san andreas and vice city, and was that present in the 360 or ps3 version too?
One question I have though is why won't it let me choose my graphical settings? a few things are locked in place, despite being okay settings, i still wouldn't mind having a look at what the game would look like on future computers
SIP YEK NOD
Banned
A couple of vehicles that met their end at the hands of a 99,000kg sentinal.
Also turned this car into a banana
And peds into apple sauce
Also turned this car into a banana
And peds into apple sauce
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
I am playing the PC version for quite some time now and getting average 35FPS (1280*1024,16xAF, tried forcing 4xAA but it didnt work, 180.84 driver version. Superclocked 8800 640MB, E6600, 2GB). Strage things are happening though. Like, I set the rendering quality to highest and it did not affct my average FPS even a single bit. Textures are set at high (they take a total of about 600MB of video memory). I tried to find a sweet spot with distance visual settings but they make things werider. Like when I increase it, objects which are near become a little clear, but messed up objects appear far away. Its like they all are meshed and wired, a lot of aliased objects appear far away. So then I reduce it again and nearer objects start becoming meshed and alaised. Right now I am at a decent spot but still cant shed the feeling of alaised things. Shadows are totally messed up. The benchmark gave me about 39FPS at these settings and was super smooth.
Also, as noted through FRAPS, sometimes the FPS jump to a justified 60-70FPS (this is honestly the FPS I should be getting by seeing how bad the game looks) but it reverts back to 35-40 without me doing anything. I know this game has issuses, but did the consoles had the wired, alaised and meshed objects? Is there any plans by Nvidia or Rockstar to allow Anti-aliasing? Will these issuses be solved and are you people having these issues?
Also, even changing the resolution didnt have any effect on FPS. I tried settings it at 1024*768 just to check and my FPS didnt change even a single bit. What a messed up game.
Also, as noted through FRAPS, sometimes the FPS jump to a justified 60-70FPS (this is honestly the FPS I should be getting by seeing how bad the game looks) but it reverts back to 35-40 without me doing anything. I know this game has issuses, but did the consoles had the wired, alaised and meshed objects? Is there any plans by Nvidia or Rockstar to allow Anti-aliasing? Will these issuses be solved and are you people having these issues?
Also, even changing the resolution didnt have any effect on FPS. I tried settings it at 1024*768 just to check and my FPS didnt change even a single bit. What a messed up game.
Visualante
Member
Was there another stealth patch today? I got a noticeable improvement for some reason.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
:lolSIP YEK NOD said:
Zoso
It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
Gametrailers has PC/360 comparison vid up.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43929.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43929.html
pizzaguysrevenge
Banned
Wow, is it really that bad for ATI cards?Zoso said:
I get better performance than that with my 8800GT.
Nah, you can get fine performance with an ATI card, just not on max settings like I'm assuming they're doing here. I can crank settings up quite a bit on my 4870 512MB and still get a steady ~40fps. I still prefer the look of the 360 version though, sure the textures, draw distance and AF are worse, but the PC version has no FSAA at all :/.pizzaguysrevenge said: