Ban Puncher
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You'll open the case and instead of a game disc there will be a card which says 'A donation has been made in your name to the Human Fund - Love Zen & Atlus'.
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Persona 4 Arena [EU]- MAY 10TH
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You'll open the case and instead of a game disc there will be a card which says 'A donation has been made in your name to the Human Fund - Love Zen & Atlus'.
What do we reckon, a tenner on Zavvi by the end of June? Or maybe they'll somehow region lock it to the wrong region? It's too little, too late for this game I think. If it ever shows up on Playstation Plus I might give it a go but can't see myself buying. It's not this game I care about to be honest but the precedent that PS3 region locking could set for future Atlus games that I would care about.
I can see the nightmare scenario now. Atlus using the inevitable low sales of Persona 4 Arena as an excuse to just not even bother licensing the few titles they deem worthy for Europe out. They'll then region lock every future one of their titles, even on PS3 and Vita. After that they'll withdraw the upcoming UK release of Volume 3 of Persona 4 the Animation on Blu-ray, alllowing only a Betamax only release with the Japanese audio removed, the picture in black-and-white and the audio in Esperanto.
In 2014 they'll change their minds and try again with a European reprint of Snowboard Kids on N64 via Zen United or Ghostlight. They'll then pull out of Europe once and for all when they wonder why the silly Europeans don't buy the game they graciously offered in the region.
What a mess of a situation.
I can see the nightmare scenario now. Atlus using the inevitable low sales of Persona 4 Arena as an excuse to just not even bother licensing the few titles they deem worthy for Europe out. They'll then region lock every future one of their titles, even on PS3 and Vita. After that they'll withdraw the upcoming UK release of Volume 3 of Persona 4 the Animation on Blu-ray, alllowing only a Betamax only release with the Japanese audio removed, the picture in black-and-white and the audio in Esperanto.
In 2014 they'll change their minds and try again with a European reprint of Snowboard Kids on N64 via Zen United or Ghostlight. They'll then pull out of Europe once and for all when they wonder why the silly Europeans don't buy the game they graciously offered in the region.
What a mess of a situation.
toddhunter
Member
As far as I am aware the region locking is done via a query to the hardware region. It should be trivial to only restrict play on Japanese consoles and ignore the rest.
NekoFever
Member
You can on the 360 and they still chose not to. Quite a lot of English-language 360 games will work on, say, US or UK machines but not Japanese ones.
It still baffles me that out of all the consumer-unfriendly publishers that I would have expected to happily region lock PS3 games if it were possible, it was this one that did it first. How on earth did we go so long without EA et al doing it?
witchedwiz
Member
gettint the thing for 25 eur tops...
no offense but with all this delay it's a dead beu game that will enter my house just for collecting purpose
I'll be buying it to support Zen mostly. Though I'm wondering if this will effect their relationship with Arc for any future Blazblue titles. (though they have done good with recent BB titles so hopefully this type of delay doesn't happen again)
In any case, wonder what the 'more good news' will be. We'll see.
In any case, wonder what the 'more good news' will be. We'll see.
£32 - £35 is the online price for all new games.
I'm saying, assuming that £32 is the price of it, that's not a discount.
I'm not expecting a price announcement. How often does that happen with a retail title?
More like £35-40. But I agree that down to £30-32 is not a huge discount. That's why I said they should go full Anarchy Reigns with it and launch at £20.
That requires the game being certified for each region. So it needs a rating (i.e. ESRB for US, PEGI and various local boards like BBFC for Europe, CERO for Japan), a certification fee for each region, and other modifications that may be required for the release in that region. That's why obscure Japanese 360 games are often region locked (it's not out of spite or malice, just money and practicalities), yet games from big publishers like EA and Activision are rarely locked between Western territories. For one it is cheaper to get it certified for the only region they're planning an official/commercial release, for the other it is cheaper to get one version of the game certified in all regions.
Don't know how I feel about this. It should be released for the equivalent of $30, what they currently want is too much. I might buy it, if no sequel is announced between now and a month after release.
Which is probably one of the many reasons for the delay. They had to wait a long time until they got the 360 version for submission.
Which is probably one of the many reasons for the delay. They had to wait a long time until they got the 360 version for submission.
If I were to hazard a guess I'd say that Arc decided to focus on the arcade release of BlazBlue Chronophantasma and the psn/xbla versions of Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R instead of doing the P4a localisation work. Arc isn't that big a company and it wouldn't be that odd for them to be unable to spare the staff needed for the PAL P4A release if they had other stuff going on. Of course if that's true, or close enough, then if they had thought ahead and did the needed work while they were making the NTSC console version and the right staff were already working on the game this whole debacle could have been avoided.
More pre order bullshit! This time retailer exclusive too!
How about giving it with every copy of the game in the whole Europe if you want to give a nice gesture for the wait. They could have made a nice LE with all that shit inside, but no, they went with all the pre order and exclusive crap
How about giving it with every copy of the game in the whole Europe if you want to give a nice gesture for the wait. They could have made a nice LE with all that shit inside, but no, they went with all the pre order and exclusive crap
Zeouterlimits
Member
No thanks Zen.
Ugh. God damn this whole thing.
Ugh. God damn this whole thing.
toythatkills
Member
I'll give them this one.
That's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Unless you are a hardcore persona fan this game isn't really worth dropping cash down on. Rent it to the see the story at most if anything. If you want a good fighting game just wait for BBCP
for 9 months after everyone else gets it
Huw_Dawson
Member
That's optimistic, this is the end of the console generation. It might end up getting delayed into cancellation.
Please tell me that's not the bug surprise they were hyping! A person where I live can't even preorder, let alone at game. It should have been a bonus included in the regular version of the game.
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
Cool, some store that does not ship to continental Europe gets a frisbee.
IdreamofHIME
Member
I think the chances are more high that Atlus will think twice about doing business with these gangsters rather than just ignore a region.
I mean they just released Golden a few months ago.
leonemesis
Member
While the bonus is cool, it's VERY disappointing they made this game.co.uk only, I really don't like that shop.
Here's hoping that they will still offer a proper LE...
Here's hoping that they will still offer a proper LE...
toythatkills
Member
I'll probably just buy the vinyl on eBay, £32.99 is stupid for the game at this point.
sixteen-bit
Member
You'd be surprised. As the push for digital downloads increases, so has the market for vinyl and turntables. I don't know if it's a backlash or something, but the audience is growing.
Supermanisdead
Member
Oh shit, I need that vinyl.
Delusibeta
Banned
Presumably as a direct result of someone at NIS America stealing the code from Atlus. Even then, they took four months to release a version that, from what I can tell, was identical to the US version, right down to the "Atlus Faithful" link in the Livescreen.
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Deleted member 57681
Unconfirmed Member
I would have been all over dat wax if the game, you know, came out half a fucking year ago. But I simply refuse to pay full price for this, let alone pre order it.
thequickandthedead
Member
What region lock?
Yeah, no, Atlus and Zen can both collectively fuck off and die for all I care.
Really, if their best is a shitty little CD which is probably on YouTube, a pack of wallpapers and a record of previously stated shitty little CD already on YouTube then the game might as well have never come out.
Really, if their best is a shitty little CD which is probably on YouTube, a pack of wallpapers and a record of previously stated shitty little CD already on YouTube then the game might as well have never come out.
You mean 12" vinyl?
Palette Swap
Member
Game exclusive record LOL.
Thanks for the crabs on top of the herpes, asshats.
Thanks for the crabs on top of the herpes, asshats.
dark_prinny
Banned
I promised myself not to buy this due to all the straight insulting shit Atlus has commited with this game. But, then again, after all maybe I fall...
But seriously Atlus Don't keep on treating us EU fans like second class peasants.
But seriously Atlus Don't keep on treating us EU fans like second class peasants.
toddhunter
Member
I think this extra surprise is pretty awesome. What else is more suitable than something I can put on my shelf and not play?
Palette Swap
Member
Hah. Indeed, it will fit nicely alongside a US copy of P4A.
Oh don't call it that, it's a fucking Record.
A piece of tat that is useless for about 99.999999% of Europeans who would be interested in playing P4A even after all of this bullshit.
The ven diagram of people who own a fucking record player (or mixing deck) and people who want to play persona 4 arena and are in Europe and haven't checked out due to the massive amout of shit that got put in frount of them is two seperate circles.