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How are those replies misogyny?
I see you've met Toto, just ignore him because he posts the same thing everytime P3P comes up.
Akihiko
buddha0991
Member
Because anything that changes the original obviously doesn't belong and doesn't fit with the developers vision even if the developer wrote it.
Edit: i've seriously seen people complain about the persona portable and golden additions and compare them to the "greedo shot first" fiasco.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I'll get to play Persona 4 omg
She has a personality.
No 3D models and no anime cutscenes = automatic worse version for me.
P3P doesn't have this:
agreed.
from the evidence we have it is very likely p4g has outsold original p4 comfortably. i don't think atlus cares if it is shipped or sold.at the end of the day they already got the money.
do you seriously think original p4 had shipped an extra 300k copies after its first 6 months? it is actually better to ship 700k in your first 6 months because you get more money for each copy. it is just crazy that you assume original p4 hasn't been outsold without any sort of proof supporting that theory and then call out other people for going with the more likely situation.
Fighting over Chie? For fucks sake, selecting what abilities your Persona will inherit is the reason I yelled fuck yes at a high volume in the P4G Velvet Room.
Fuck trying the fusion several times because you end up with two amazing abilities and a goddamn Agi. This should have been the standard in the first place.
I didn't want to use the Female MC in P3P. Guess I hate women then.
This goddamn place sometimes.
Fuck trying the fusion several times because you end up with two amazing abilities and a goddamn Agi. This should have been the standard in the first place.
I didn't want to use the Female MC in P3P. Guess I hate women then.
This goddamn place sometimes.
thequickandthedead
Member
3D models yes but why the anime cutscenes? They're nothing special at all.No 3D models and no anime cutscenes = automatic worse version for me.
P3P doesn't have this:
Magicpaint
Member
The portable games aren't done by the main team, though. It's alright if you dig FeMC, but I just see her as a wacky 'what-if' scenario where the personality of the main character clashes with the tone of the game. She'd fit better in P4 IMO.Because anything that changes the original obviously doesn't belong and doesn't fit with the developers vision even if the developer wrote it.
buddha0991
Member
I initially was mad that they took all the challenge out of the fusion system, but then I replayed P3FES The Answer and spent 2 hours trying to get a good Thor. Fuck the old system, but the new system is too easy and broken too.
I disagree. Persona 3's opening cutscene was amazing and defined its atmosphere right from the start. Same goes for others like the protagonist's awakening cutscene and others.
KojiKnight
Member
No 3D models and no anime cutscenes = automatic worse version for me.
P3P doesn't have this:
This... visual novels and the like exist because a developer can't afford to do a lot of things they want to do graphically... but in Persona 3 and FES we already had this! Going back to being told what's happening in text form is a step back no matter how you look at it.
It's not a matter of Fem versus Male MC, it's a matter of poorly executed port job due to limited storage space in UMDs.
... Have you never played persona? The protagonists are in no way silent, and in P3P the protagonist can even be bitchy or sweet.
EDIT: Can we all just agree that Atlus should make a mix of P3P and FES and release it on console and handheld? Then we would have one version that is definitively the bestestest.
AgentLampshade
Member
That reminds me. Does P3FES still have a save bug in the PSN version? Been wanting to get it but been put off after hearing that.
OT: I have a Vita, so I doubt I'll triple-dip. Though the satisfaction of having 3, 4 and 5 on one system is pretty tantalising.
OT: I have a Vita, so I doubt I'll triple-dip. Though the satisfaction of having 3, 4 and 5 on one system is pretty tantalising.
polyh3dron
Banned
Pointless when Golden is out there and is vastly superior.
Except you're the one selecting what the character has to say. You shape her/his personality. That's what a silent main character is for. Giving the choice of a more funny answer doesn't make that character funny, if there's an alternative. It's just who you want she/he to be.
EDIT: so much grammar fail D:
buddha0991
Member
No they fixed most of the bugs, but since there is no patch service for PS2 classics, you must delete the game and redownload it, and it will be patched.
A lot more people have PS3s than Vitas.
It's called having fun.
AgentLampshade
Member
Good to know, thanks.
So you're saying Shephard in mass effect is a silent protagonist?
A silent Protagonist is someone like Gordon Freeman who has no voice or personality ever.
Is the dragonborn a silent protagonist?
How about the Grey Warden?
Even if you choose what they say, they are still saying something. They are more an avatar, not a silent protagonist.
So they got the voice actors for chie and teddie to sign a updated contract?
weird
They fixed the bug from occurring as often as it did but it can still happen.
wait a second, I thought the female character was supposed to be ni FES but they ran into technical issues so they could not do it? I vaguely remember reading something to that effect.
weird
They fixed the bug from occurring as often as it did but it can still happen.
wait a second, I thought the female character was supposed to be ni FES but they ran into technical issues so they could not do it? I vaguely remember reading something to that effect.
Magicpaint
Member
True, P3P is just simply inferior in many other ways (besides it still retains the original male MC anyway). Graphically it's quite a step down when there's 3D visuals involved. Even though Persona games are made on a tight budget, the presentation is still a big part of their charm and a lot of that was lost in transition. But it's a good game to play through for the new content and I'd still love to see a definitive version of P3 (on Vita) with the strengths of both versions someday.
because Marie
They're also a great reward, at least I've always seen them that way, I was really excited when a new anime cutscene started. Same as CGI for S-E RPGs.
Hell yes. Walking around the city, controlling the party, anime cutscenes and playing as a female? Like a dream come true (such a great song :3)
Yep, made the Shadow Yukiko fight way too easy because I had an Eligor that had fire resistance through skill and natural strike resistance, so it wasn't that hard.I initially was mad that they took all the challenge out of the fusion system, but then I replayed P3FES The Answer and spent 2 hours trying to get a good Thor. Fuck the old system, but the new system is too easy and broken too.
I'm more against the Skill Cards thing though, adding Mabufu for example, really early in the game in a random Persona can be worse, I think.
Heh, I personally can't agree with that either if it came at the cost of original games.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I'm actually playing P3 FES right now and I will say that P3P does feel incomplete.. I played P3P first and loved it, I thought I would have a hard time with P3 FES due to not being able to fully control your party but it's been really fun so far.
buddha0991
Member
Close, she was supposed to be in the original P3, when they had to bail out of that, she became Yukari:
Initial concept
updated
also featuring the beta MC design
Actually pretty neat that they actually went and made the final Female Protagonist very similar to her very first concept look from all those years ago:
P3 was a very ambitious game and we are still missing a ton of content that they intended to put in, some of it ended up in some of those many audio dramas that P3 has.
Allright, a bit on the nitpicking side but a fair point, I meant they're avatars for the player, not strictly silent like Chrono or Gordon Freeman. But my point still stands. FeMC is just a skin with the personality you want her to have (same as the male, I'm not a mysoginist I swear!!1).
That said, play P3 wherever you can, just play it guys
SimpleGamer
Member
Agreed.
Allright, a bit on the nitpicking side but a fair point, I meant they're avatars for the player, not strictly silent like Chrono or Gordon Freeman. But my point still stands. FeMC is just a skin with the personality you want her to have (same as the male, I'm not a mysoginist I swear!!1).
That said, play P3 wherever you can, just play it guys
I'll stop after this post. The whole thing about the FeMC is she's much better written than any other Main characters in the series, and her interactions with others are written to be more genuine than the Male MC in P3. She's still sort of a blank slate, but it's obvious they put more thought into her dialogue paths than into the Male PC.
buddha0991
Member
^I think the Persona 2 protagonists Tatsuya Suou and Maya Amano are better, and you also have to keep in mind, that FeMC was their latest protagonist done, after P4.
Well SMT Devil Summoner Raidou 1 just came out on PSN as a PS2 Classic today and its 10 dollars
Well SMT Devil Summoner Raidou 1 just came out on PSN as a PS2 Classic today and its 10 dollars
Just checking, but you did play Persona 2: Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment to say something like that, right?
OldKingDoran
Banned
maybe he just didn't like the character?
Some people like playing the canon story.
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10 dollar price temporary or permanent? I was thinking of just getting the discs for 1 and 2 (will cost me 50 total including shipping) but 10 dollars....
Man that is miles better than the emo hair flipper we got.also featuring the beta MC design
Should be permanent, all PS2 classics are $10 and go on sale for $5 sometimes