They're so petty and controlling, thinking that they're the only one who can advertise their product. They never realize that a product's popularity has a higher chance to rise if other customers recommend their product to other customers.
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Persona 5s PS4 share features are permanently disabled
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They're so petty and controlling, thinking that they're the only one who can advertise their product. They never realize that a product's popularity has a higher chance to rise if other customers recommend their product to other customers.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
This is one of those things that i dislike of jgames . Some scenes are blocked in Nioh too. Thankfully it isnt a joke like P5 though
SanguineShark
Member
I've never tried the series, and I've been thinking of giving this a shot, but this decision is making me reconsider.
It's such a backward thing to do. Like, I feel they have some ignorant people higher up making some boneheaded decisions(to the detriment of the company). They're probably old and/or out of touch.
It's such a backward thing to do. Like, I feel they have some ignorant people higher up making some boneheaded decisions(to the detriment of the company). They're probably old and/or out of touch.
TyMiles2012
Member
Yep. There's a reason why Dark Souls became popular.
Marmaladefire
Member
If they reaaally don't want this streamed, etc, doesn't that kind of confirm no PC version, like..Ever?
charlequin
Banned
I mean, you say this, but it's important to note that the effect of this choice will unquestionably be to on-net reduce the total revenue they produce from the game.
I was thinking about this earlier
Wouldn't that be so amusing? If the reason there's no pc ports is because they don't want people streaming and taking screenshots.
I don't think i'd ever stop laughing if they admitted to something like that
Son Of Sparda
Member
If they really didn't want this streamed then they shouldn't have released it on PS4, which can remote play to PC.
What about PS3 version?
It seems hypocritical to not buy the game on the principle that others can't stream it. Surely if you were to purchase the game, you wouldn't need to view streams of it? And if you are someone who generates income from LPs and streaming game content, which more often than not hurts video game sales, there are dozens of alternative capture methods.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Yeah man. Look at how all those streams reduced sales of niche games like Yakuza 0 and Nier Automata.... Oh wait!
I'm honestly thinking about waiting for a sale with this game now. I have plenty of other games in my backlog and this decision to take away a core functionality of contemporary gaming that helps me archive playthroughs is so simple-minded and petty. It's like Altus is run by a bunch of out of touch conservative old men.
SanguineShark
Member
I feel like a lot of the people that don't care about sharing being blocked or even like the fact it's blocked, seem to misunderstand why some people enjoy the share features. For me, it has nothing to do with monetary gains, but simply that my friend and I enjoy watching each other play certain games.
Also, your last "statement" couldn't be further from the truth. There are many, many games that only do well because of stream exposure. Or at the very least, it greatly contributes.
Edit: I should also add it's ridiculous to expect me to get a capture card when this is a standard (and free) feature across the majority of PS4 games.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
So, if one does PC sharing from PS4, it seems this wouldn't be too hard to get around this block.
In short, the only thing Atlus has achieved is block their customers from trying to sell Atlus' best game of last 6-7 years to other customers... Great job.
- PC Sharing and then recording works fine
- Capture cards work fine
- Cameras/phones work fine
Yes, I can see how PS4 sharing would prevent videos of Persona 5 from appearing on the internet. I mean if you go to Youtube and type Persona 5, there is clearly nothing there...
In short, the only thing Atlus has achieved is block their customers from trying to sell Atlus' best game of last 6-7 years to other customers... Great job.
- PC Sharing and then recording works fine
- Capture cards work fine
- Cameras/phones work fine
Yes, I can see how PS4 sharing would prevent videos of Persona 5 from appearing on the internet. I mean if you go to Youtube and type Persona 5, there is clearly nothing there...
And this is actually the reason for completely disabling any sharing features. The not to spoil anything argument is just a silly and very obvious pretext.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
98 year old Japanese videogame executive is out of touch, news at eleven.
Gerontocracy boys!
Gerontocracy boys!
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
Thanks to YouTube related videos, now I know who the first boss is in P5.
God
Fucking
Dammit
God
Fucking
Dammit
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
That fucking blows like valleys... I guess I will order an El Gato HD tomorrow, then. Thanks P5. 
We're you in a media blackout? He was in a bunch of trailers.
Most companies are
Fbh
Gold Member
That sucks. And honestly feels extremely backwards and out of touch with the current gaming market and gaming communities.
I know several people that decided to try Yakuza 0 based almost entirely on all the Gifs and videos and screenshots of the game. Or the other day I posted a boss from Nioh on Facebook and a friend that wasn't aware of it really liked how it looked and is now playign it.
It's sad how most Japanese companies have really backwards looks on sharing. This is the worst example yet but there are countless examples of them getting into legal battles with youtubers or adding giant copyright disclaimers to screenshots.
I know they are managed by 120 years old conservative executives...But at least listen to your marketing team like western devs do.
I know several people that decided to try Yakuza 0 based almost entirely on all the Gifs and videos and screenshots of the game. Or the other day I posted a boss from Nioh on Facebook and a friend that wasn't aware of it really liked how it looked and is now playign it.
It's sad how most Japanese companies have really backwards looks on sharing. This is the worst example yet but there are countless examples of them getting into legal battles with youtubers or adding giant copyright disclaimers to screenshots.
I know they are managed by 120 years old conservative executives...But at least listen to your marketing team like western devs do.
As long as I can take screens and videos I don't care... never shared anything. And I get their point. There should be a feature where when someone share something in a particular part of a game, it is automatically set as spoiler and blackened if other people don't accept to see it... like the auto disable video recording, should not be too hard to do.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
No, they blocked all functions of the share button on PS4 including screenshots
Irishmantis
Member
Yo what's up with the defence on a subject I thought be widely unacceptable?
Also how are we so sure they did this for the players?
Complete contradiction in the defence arguments too, "whats the problem, no spoilers" to "Hay just buy a capture card to do the same thing the share feature does fundamentally"
Also how are we so sure they did this for the players?
Complete contradiction in the defence arguments too, "whats the problem, no spoilers" to "Hay just buy a capture card to do the same thing the share feature does fundamentally"
SanguineShark
Member
Gotta defend your favorite company. Even when they make stupid decisions.
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
I recognize him from the trailers. I just didn't know he was the First boss, though.
Pernicious Panda
Unconfirmed Member
This is a huge ****ing bummer. A completely unnecessary and downright archaic policy.
wat
That is fucked. I thought it was just sharing. I might just boycott over this bullshit, I got enough things to play.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
you have got to be kidding me
how does this do anything about 90% of the people who record and post videos already?
is there a sizable amount of people who stream PS4 games directly from the PS4 itself?
sucks about people who like taking in-game screenshots but this seems like something only screwing people and not doing anything about spoilers since spoilers will be posted by people who have proper capture equipment most likely.
is there a sizable amount of people who stream PS4 games directly from the PS4 itself?
sucks about people who like taking in-game screenshots but this seems like something only screwing people and not doing anything about spoilers since spoilers will be posted by people who have proper capture equipment most likely.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yeah.. "Good thing that it's blocked so that people won't spoil stuff in the Internet" excuse is just silly.
People who deliberately spoil games just to screw others would not stop this easy in the first place.
Heck, they'd still capture them with their phones as the most important thing for spoiling is the context, not picture quality.
texhnolyze
Banned
People weren't okay with those too. That's why I buy the newer Tales of games on PC.
TacosNSalsa
Member
If they really didn't want this streamed couldn't they just tell twitch/YouTube "Hey take it down whenever you see it go up?" As far as I know twitch does do this and in YouTube's case I think it's even automatic with their contentid system.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I wonder if they (Atlus JP) hate GB's P4 Endurance Run for similar reasons?
It's was really got me into Persona & SMT. I have spent so much money on Atlus products since.
It's was really got me into Persona & SMT. I have spent so much money on Atlus products since.
But creator's intent...
SprachBrooks
Member
Definitely not getting this when it releases. Will wait for a sale.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Just so we're clear, for some of us (me specifically) the lack of a share feature does not mean we're 'boycotting' the game. We're just expressing our displeasure in regards to the game purposefully blocking a system-level feature.
Rellik
Member
You can't take screen and videos though. The whole share feature is disabled.
They (the morons who make these decisions) hate any form of marketing they cannot control because they are too insecure and ignorant about the direction of social trends online in the past decade. It's pretty sad because I think the developers of Persona have a very keen sense of what younger people want and what they go through today, and it's really neat how they implemented the online social features for Catherine and Persona 5 to take advantage of the increasing interest people have in statistical data.
R_thanatos
Member
That video was not made with PS Share ..Another point proving that this block does little to prevent videos from being made
Son Of Sparda
Member
You can't. The whole function is disabled.
Yeah, same here. I have this pre-ordered and I'm gonna play the hell out of it come April 4th. I'm just really annoyed by this stupid decision from Atlus. And people are free to do whatever they want to do with their money, but I really don't think simply boycotting the game would send the massage, since they wouldn't actually know why you decided to skip the game.
I wish there was someway for us to let them know how much we hate this decision.
I wish John was still here 