TurnipFritters
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Don't worry, once the serial killer shows up it starts shifting to wacky highschool hijinks!
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Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair! [NO PQ OR P4U SPOILERS!]
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Don't worry, once the serial killer shows up it starts shifting to wacky highschool hijinks!
hipsterpants
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I will say Atlus has come a long way in the art of the self-insert character. Nothing quite like seeing awful stuff happen to my "friends" and the dude just stands there expressionless.
buddha0991
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While I agree with this, I find it lends itself well to the nihilistic tone of that game.
spoiler boss Corvo
NOW FOR PQ preorder stuff!
NOW FOR PQ preorder stuff!
source
Clearfiles - preorder item from Famitsu DX pack
Clearfile - Medialand
Mini-tapresty - WonderGOO
Chie/Yukiko Telecard - asobit
deskmat - anibro
glasses case (with cleaner) + (animate set only) charms - Animate
glasses case (with cleaner) -AmiAmi
CD + metal charm - HMV
card sticker - Enterking
Microfiber cloth - chara-ani
QUO card - COMG!
clearfiles - Sanyodo
keychains - Stellaworth
card case - Takarajima
microfiber cloth - Trader
3DS XL skin - neowing
book card(???) - fammys
cushion keychain - famima
clearfile - futaba books
Teddie keychain - Media World
special bromide - mmk
hipsterpants
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I don't mind it, I just find it amusing. I would find it off-putting if he (I?) had some big emotional reaction to the stuff occurring around me.
I don't care myself since I wasn't going to play the game but simply posting that image is pretty spoilerific and renders the spoilered part below it useless
In all seriousness, I don't really think this character is a big spoiler. I kinda made my post because everything in it was so ridiculous I didn't expect any of it to be considered big spoilers, but in particular I really don't see this character as being a big thing. You're told well before the point I'm at that a character of this name exists and is behind what's going on, and all the hilarious nonsense that accompanies the reveal is a painfully blatant ploy by the writers to distract you from the real big deal in that scene:
and as a discussion point, this big name character sorta also distracts away from the underlying actual plot relevant stuff going on in the game at the time.
Sorta how I feel anyway, but I do apologize to those who feel I've ruined something for them, and will endeavor to keep talk of this character behind spoilers, I guess.
that someone has been replaced by a Shadow Self.
Sorta how I feel anyway, but I do apologize to those who feel I've ruined something for them, and will endeavor to keep talk of this character behind spoilers, I guess.
No lies detected.
Eh, it doesn't seem to be a really important story spoiler, it's more like a movie trailer spoiling the best jokes in a comedy. My reaction was what yours kinda looks like,
"OMG HITLER ALIENS MAYANS WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"
Certainly, and that was something I didn't consider when I made my post and for that I'm sorry, but it isn't like a "Gandalf comes back!" level spoiler or whatever is all I'm getting at. Shoot, some people might be more encouraged to play it knowing it.
SatelliteOfLove
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Yes! YES! YES!!!
Yes! YES! YES!!!
But he wore shades and everything to hide himself, only to be outed by Corvo.
Hmm I don't think that's fair in this case. It wasn't released in NA/EU until 2011 (and probably didn't sell many copies). We spoiler-tag P3 and P4, but they've been available outside of Japan longer and more people have played them. I also don't think there's a time limit that makes spoilers ok, but that's another issue.
buddha0991
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Well, to be fair, at that point, they never really had a Shadow Self quite like those until that point, now they are super common.
I am not saying it shouldn't have been spoiler tagged, just that it's easy to see why he made the mistake.
Yu Narukami
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When can we realistically expect some P5 news? I'm asking because I'm playing P4 right now and I'm at the
dungeon and I'm so sad that it's going to end soon.
normal ending
Everyone: Huh, Maya sure is acting weird! Oh well!
Me: HER EYES ARE NOW BRIGHT YELLOW ARE YOU PEOPLE STUPID
Me: HER EYES ARE NOW BRIGHT YELLOW ARE YOU PEOPLE STUPID
ftfy
Not saying they should know "oh she's a shadow" but they let go of it so easily. She's acting completely different AND looks different. Like c'mon ya dummies.
Normal ending ? Which dungeon ? There might be quite a bit left. Either way, I'm hoping Persona 5 news don't
do?
Depressing can also signify tone rather than just story moments.
There's a very distant and cold atmosphere that is present in a lot of the game despite it having a few weird light moments here and there. I mean traveling around a spherical Tokyo that just completely got blown the fuck up with very very few humans remaining (
and having all your remaining friends go insane shortly afterwards
That said I found that there's also plenty of depressing moments in the story like
learning about Hijiri's fate
They have been too silent about the game. I would at least like some character portraits.
That's not what I meant, though. That
she behaves very differently and looks very different at a point when the game has warned you that you might be getting replaced makes her stand out.
So let's talk about what happened in Mt. Iwato in Persona 2
So as it happens the impetus for everything happening is that our intrepid child heroes messed up as kids and what would have been a relatively harmless prank escalated when Tatsuya "My names is excessively like the protagonist's for the sake of confusing the FUCK out for the player" Sudou shows up and sets fire to shit. Thus leading him down the path to being King Leo and turning Jun to being Joker etc etc etc. How this ties into the Hitler plotline has yet to be explained, just as how Jun giving Tats-man his lighter has yet to really be entirely fleshed out into the whole "when does what happen" thing.
The hot topic for this section of the game is obviously Shadow Maya. How she originated is not yet entirely clear to me, since Shadow Selves in Persona 1 and Persona 4 sorta pop out in the Shadow World, whether that's Another Mikage or inside the TV. Her behavior sorta seems at odds with the behavior of Maki's Shadow and the Shadows in P4 as well, because 1) She doesn't seem entirely interested in replacing Maya, the way Pandora was interested in replacing Maki, and 2) she can use a Persona, which was sort of an odd thing that Maki!Ideal could do, but which P4A sorta makes a plot point of saying can't be done? Unless I misunderstood that and it's really that a person cannot wield their Persona when their Shadow Self is manifesting and not specifically that a Shadow Self or a Shadow cannot wield a Persona, since both Maki!Ideal and Teddie do just that.
Most of all, though, is I'm not entirely certain what aspects of Maya Shadow Maya is meant to be representing or accentuating. She seems very opposite of Maya in that she's rather mean spirited and extremely unforgiving, and that unwillingness to forgive and desire for vengeance certainly plays into the fact that the other members of the group and desirous to be forgiven and afraid of her retribution, but I'm not sure how exactly it ties into Maya. Of further note is that in the fight with her Shadow Self Maya wields her Persona, which would suggest that at this point the concept of Shadows and Personas as being tied to one another doesn't exist, but which can also be handwaved away by pointing out that every character in these first two games has the power to change Personas and that that might figure in somehow.
It was sort of a tough boss fight, but only because she spammed the fuck out of Mahama.
Anyway, now Nazi mechs are raining from the sky over Japan.
The hot topic for this section of the game is obviously Shadow Maya. How she originated is not yet entirely clear to me, since Shadow Selves in Persona 1 and Persona 4 sorta pop out in the Shadow World, whether that's Another Mikage or inside the TV. Her behavior sorta seems at odds with the behavior of Maki's Shadow and the Shadows in P4 as well, because 1) She doesn't seem entirely interested in replacing Maya, the way Pandora was interested in replacing Maki, and 2) she can use a Persona, which was sort of an odd thing that Maki!Ideal could do, but which P4A sorta makes a plot point of saying can't be done? Unless I misunderstood that and it's really that a person cannot wield their Persona when their Shadow Self is manifesting and not specifically that a Shadow Self or a Shadow cannot wield a Persona, since both Maki!Ideal and Teddie do just that.
Most of all, though, is I'm not entirely certain what aspects of Maya Shadow Maya is meant to be representing or accentuating. She seems very opposite of Maya in that she's rather mean spirited and extremely unforgiving, and that unwillingness to forgive and desire for vengeance certainly plays into the fact that the other members of the group and desirous to be forgiven and afraid of her retribution, but I'm not sure how exactly it ties into Maya. Of further note is that in the fight with her Shadow Self Maya wields her Persona, which would suggest that at this point the concept of Shadows and Personas as being tied to one another doesn't exist, but which can also be handwaved away by pointing out that every character in these first two games has the power to change Personas and that that might figure in somehow.
It was sort of a tough boss fight, but only because she spammed the fuck out of Mahama.
Anyway, now Nazi mechs are raining from the sky over Japan.
And somewhere out there an American general is likely jizzing his pants with glee.
She's also talking like a different person.
About shadow maya, remember the rumors about 5 terrorists that.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm sorry but I really dislike PQ's art style.
It dislikes you as well.
Right, that's how I've been explaining the discrepancy to myself thus far.
Reanimatoin
Member
Love or hate Marie in Golden but she's got a great design in my opinion.
This was probably the most fun one to draw yet.
This was probably the most fun one to draw yet.
hipsterpants
Member
I meant more in the sense that the game is devoid of any happiness. Like everything just sucks: every human minus like five people are dead, violence is constant, etc. Not the best choice of words on my part.
Also fuck Isamu, I know
Also fuck Isamu, I know
who's ending I'm not choosing.
Chrono Helix
Member
A persona game where every once in a while everyone spontaneously bursts into song and dance to Meguro tunes would certainly get my money.
Reanimatoin
Member
Even on V Hard you shouldnt need to grind too much that early. Are you doing 1st run or NG+?
Can you imagine the "First Murder" song? Oscar bait right there.
Reanimatoin
Member
Eesh, then yep, best prepare for a grind. Also are you playing Vanilla or Golden and is this your first run through Persona 4 ever or are you coming back to it?
Golden since Vanilla doesn't have a "Very Hard"
On the one hand, I think that a game where people bust into musical numbers could be pretty fun, like, say, Elite Beat Agents
On the other hand FINNY FUN BITCHES.
On the other hand FINNY FUN BITCHES.
Yeaaaah, I really would not recommend Very Hard if it's your first run through. Only for New Game+, and even then, NG+ has a custom difficulty setting where you can bump up the combat difficulty as well as separately modify the money/exp modifiers.
Red The Hunter
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Yu Narukami
Member
If you're playing the original game,
there's one more dungeon afterwards.
If you're playing Golden,
there's another if you maxed out the Aeon social link.
Reanimatoin
Member
If I'm being honest, I would restart, save V Hard for NG+ because otherwise you are going to need to spend a lot of time grinding and as a result will miss out on a lot of the SLink stuff, which is where the game truely shines.
Thats just my thoughts though, If you like a challenge then stick with it, luckily Golden is significantly easier than vanilla, so make the most of shuffle time and fuse like crazy.
Very Hard is more for veterans of the series really. "You already know what you'll be facing, and what persona/moves you'll want in the section you're about to do, so you have to either settle for less and figure out how to get around it since you know mechanics so well, or grind like crazy to the point of unfun."
The mode for new people is normal really, especially if you haven't played any games in the series before. Though Hard will give you more of a challenge without the obnoxious grinding times, it will also be hard since you won't know what to expect. In like 8 hours of time in Yukiko's dungeon I was ready to finish it at lv17 for example(overkill is fun!).
Honestly, if you really like a challenge, I'd just start with Hard and go from there. It's not too bad as long as follow several ideas with how you approach fights(buffs/debuffs are awesome, have well rounded personas on the MC(one of each elemental type is preferred, having an elemental that your party doesn't is required), and keep the MC's personas current with your party's level).
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Its coming out 2014 in JP. If its late 2014 then probably since P3 and 4 were revealed 3-4 months before release date iirc.
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