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Pewdiepie just can't help himself with the N word...the 4th time
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ramoisdead
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Video games are not a magic escapist realm where you get to ignore real life and the impact video games, and their participants, have on it.
PDP is a gaming icon, for better or worse, and it's specifically him being a racist shitlord while streaming a video game.
So Gaming is where it belongs.
I tend to explain the situation as a word that was used during the systematic dehumanization of generations of enslaved people and continued to be used during hundreds of years of institutional and individual hatred and violence towards them. But your thing could work for some people, I guess.
OrangeGrayBlue
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AHHHHAAAHHHAAHAA!
Pro-tip: if I can tell that you're white just by your ill-informed view on the N-word, you're on the wrong side of the argument.
Ah that's fair enough. Such a shitty situation and am sorry. Like I said I'm not from the US so cant grasp how bad it is. Forget my comment I was just curious as I saw the post and its something we had discussed. Wish the world was a better place.
Ploid 3.0
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I have a feeling as time goes on Pewdiepie will be some kind of superpower in the world. As internet and online influence continue to become so important. These people look so scared to cross Pewdiepie, they do nothing but cross people in their vids, but Pewdiepie? That's power.
As they say, "there are more ways than one to skin a cat."
SuitedforGaming
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I've been on Youtube (consuming) since the early days....there are a lot of things that baffle me, but the one that baffles me the most is the obsession with what this guy says or does. Every time people forget about him he crops up with something controversial that propels him to the top of everyone's radar again.
I mean he did stop himself. It's unfortunate that he's so used to saying that word especially with his young audience, but I think it's just a case of him being a dumb dumb with no filter. I don't think the guy genuinely hates any particular group of people IMO.
I don't really watch him, but does PDP actively try to target children with his videos? If so then definately it would be a bigger issue, but if kids just happen to flock to his channel then I don't think he has any particular obligation to censor himself IMO.
What I don't understand is why a vocal minority is quick to villainize others who aren't aggressively condemning him? If you hate the homie for his actions you are certainly not in the wrong at all, you do you, homie has a history of saying weird shit, I get it, but why you gotta mess with other peeps who don't feel that way?
I don't really watch him, but does PDP actively try to target children with his videos? If so then definately it would be a bigger issue, but if kids just happen to flock to his channel then I don't think he has any particular obligation to censor himself IMO.
What I don't understand is why a vocal minority is quick to villainize others who aren't aggressively condemning him? If you hate the homie for his actions you are certainly not in the wrong at all, you do you, homie has a history of saying weird shit, I get it, but why you gotta mess with other peeps who don't feel that way?
It's because for "content creators", he's their champion. If he gets struck down, they fear being next.
NipplesAndToes23
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Here's the vid for those that care. He's a damn blessing.
Because it is the gaming discussion here.
Necro bumping old threads, even if funny, is bad and brings out outraged people "thanks for the useless bump", "get lost". Never got the outrage about it. Who cares.
But these countless threads about a non gaming issue with very upset people on both sides and a ban count beyond oblivion is sitting right at the front page of gaf.
Edit: edited for respect.
ramoisdead
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What an overly hostile response for what I was communicating in my post. And even if it was a post of "absurd nonsense you have ever read" I suggest you look deeper in this very thread. You will find someone trying to equate cracker with the N word. Perhaps you could reroute your hostility there.
But as I said I do wonder if it was stopped being used and evoked all the time if it would lose power over time. Not over night and you have your opinion. I freely admitted I didn't expect it to happen and even if it did yes there are ignorant people far into the future that would still use it but I am curious if it would be much less so. I think it would and you're entitled to your opinion. Is that ok?
Khaos Kontrol
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Muffin1611
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"Just askin' questions" I'm sure.
Oh, don't worry there's a far bigger power out there called "chaos". If you look at what some of PDPs diehard followers are doing right now on the internet, you'll fully understand the saying "power is just the illusion of being in control".
As a non-American this concept is really weird to me, but if you guys tell me that this is the correct way then I believe you.
It's after all a really simple rule to follow, "Never use the n-word."
While I understand where you are coming from I think it's important to talk to others with respect if you want others to respect what you have to say as well.
I also think many are overreacting, but as many pointed out you can simply not click on the thread. Otherwise you're free to express your distaste with the reactions in the thread politely. That's what I like to think I did anyway. The likelihood of you changing anyone's mind is very low so respect is important in that sense.
These people act like they're going to have a conniption because a thread like this is in gaming.
Makes me think they just avoid OT in general and are scared by seeing a thread like this in gaming they know they'll say something that will get them banned.
Edit: and I see he already said something that will get him banned.
Ploid 3.0
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Ad-pocalypse, a word I learned about the day this guy said the word in the PUBG game. It seemed like the most worrisome part about the situation for youtube content creators. They don't want an ad-pocalypse 2.0 or 1.5.
I still have to see a post from you that contributes to the conversation at all.
Bye.
Buddy I posted this and I got the post deleted, so maybe lets stick to the subject?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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AkumaHokoru
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...But we can have a dialogue with these people and they will change...my. ass.
We are discussing racism. It is not only bound to videogames. It is a much broader issue, which is best delt with, imo, if we just don't give so much attention to it as long as it is a verbal offense. Yes pdp is a disgrace, if you are wondering what side I'm on.
It's just enough I guess.
Instead I'll get banned for sugesting moving it to the off topic, as someone up there posted.
Welp.
There is nothing wrong with asking questions. This is a forum to have discussions on, and part of having discussions involves asking questions. If you do not have an answer then simply ignore my post. No need to be rude because you feel a viewpoint is being jeopardized/attacked.
It's a valid question coming from someone(myself) who has a very different viewpoint on these types of issues, and I would like to come to understand the opposing viewpoint rather than shit on it. I'm not asking anyone to change their opinion on the matter. I am merely seeking to understand the thought process of someone who thinks differently than I. Is that not a commendable pursuit?
If you're jumping into the thread to in any way, shape, or form minimize the amount of heat that the aforementioned scumbag is receiving, you're tacitly supporting him. Every clown who's 'just asking questions' or 'both sides' stanning pulls the same shit time after time. No one's getting messed with that isn't jumping into here on purpose. And if they're doing the above, they deserve to be chewed out. But nah, let's give the people equating cracker to n*gga/er, the 'Move this to OT' crowd, the 'I'm tired of seeing PDP being talked about, if we don't talk about it he'll just disappear(lol)' concern trolls, and those trying to downplay his repeated shitty behavior as something that can be explained away the freedom to keep posting their horseshit, wouldn't want to mess with them for backing a bigot explicitly or otherwise.
Because let's be frank; the same people doing this shit are the same people who spent their teenage years (and maybe even beyond) shouting racial slurs into their mics and want to have the back of somebody they can relate to(a racist manchild), or don't want to have to look in a mirror because it makes them uncomfortable.
Like clockwork
It's kinda like "never drop kick someone on a wheelchair"
I mean some people never come in contact with people are wheelchair bound but it's not a complicated concept to just not do that.
Is asking for a shred of decency too much?
Why would a racist stop using the word? What incentive would there be? Like, I've never heard a single solid explanation why a racist would stop wielding the word like a cudgel. Because that's what it is for them, a weapon. That's why it's absurd and naïve opinion to hold.
I disagree. Black people should be on board with completely wiping it from existence. It will take years (decades...), but it should be a goal. Along with other racist/religious insults.
Hm? I got it from earlier in this thread, it seems like it's not deleted. I'll edit anyway.
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