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[KevinCow]

So I picked up MAG today because I wanted to play a shooter with the Move and the beta is the only one at the moment, and I finally get everything set up... to find out it's only accessible at certain times of the day? What the shit.

From what I played of the training, its controls don't feel as good as the better Wiimote shooters. The pointer's a bit laggier than a good Wiimote pointer, and it just overall doesn't feel as nice as MP3 or the Conduit. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though, since those games came out a good way into the Wii's life while the Move isn't even a week old at this point. There were early Wii games that had far bigger issues than any Move game so far... Red Steel, for instance.

Hopefully they'll nail it soon enough. And if/when they do, I hope Sony makes it easy for other developers to implement in their games as an optional control scheme, because I really want to play some good shooters with good pointer controls. Then I see the developers of major upcoming games like Portal 2, inFamous 2, and Uncharted 3 saying they have no plans for Move support, and it's just like, what?

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

Woo Hoo.. got a 2nd move *bundle*. could find a wand anywhere, went to a HN and someone had preordered and not come in to buy it. So they happily sold it to me.

Score!

Now I have 2 x eyes/wand/demo disc.

Somehow this seems not so intelligent.

 

[Lonely1]

So I picked up MAG today because I wanted to play a shooter with the Move and the beta is the only one at the moment, and I finally get everything set up... to find out it's only accessible at certain times of the day? What the shit.

From what I played of the training, its controls don't feel as good as the better Wiimote shooters. The pointer's a bit laggier than a good Wiimote pointer, and it just overall doesn't feel as nice as MP3 or the Conduit. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though, since those games came out a good way into the Wii's life while the Move isn't even a week old at this point. There were early Wii games that had far bigger issues than any Move game so far... Red Steel, for instance.

Hopefully they'll nail it soon enough. And if/when they do, I hope Sony makes it easy for other developers to implement in their games as an optional control scheme, because I really want to play some good shooters with good pointer controls. Then I see the developers of major upcoming games like Portal 2, inFamous 2, and Uncharted 3 saying they have no plans for Move support, and it's just like, what?

When is MAG beta going to end though? it saddens me that the first FPSes aren't going to be up until about Feb Next year. I might bite on MAG, but i'm not a team player :S

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Please don't buy High Velocity Bowling if you're going to buy it for Move. Holy shit, does that game (and Move controls) suck!! If you're expecting Wii Sports-like fun, you're in for a fucked-up treat...

 

[flyinpiranha]

I disagree, it's more to do with target markets. Start the Party is kiddy, WarioWare is not.

This is not a "lol bright colors Mario = kiddy" trollathon, Start the Party is genuinely marketed to younger players:

Exactly ... but I guess because it's marketed towards kids it's supposed to be a rip on it or something. I'm 34, none of the games I play are marketed towards me :lol ... doesn't mean I can't enjoy them.

 

[PistolGrip]

just finished with the shoot demo...

Calibration was horrible in that game I had to turn off the lights! In SC the calibration had no problems but the shoot was horrible at knowing where I was pointing at. Once i got the calibration down though it wasnt bad pointing. Messed around the motion control options a bit and got a handle on it.

I still dont like the pointer mechanics. They are still too similar to the wii's mechanics and that drove me insane when I tried it. Anyway I had big hopes for pointing but I guess is a problem thats still pending.

FIX IT GUERRILLA!!!

So I picked up MAG today because I wanted to play a shooter with the Move and the beta is the only one at the moment, and I finally get everything set up... to find out it's only accessible at certain times of the day? What the shit.

From what I played of the training, its controls don't feel as good as the better Wiimote shooters. The pointer's a bit laggier than a good Wiimote pointer, and it just overall doesn't feel as nice as MP3 or the Conduit. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though, since those games came out a good way into the Wii's life while the Move isn't even a week old at this point. There were early Wii games that had far bigger issues than any Move game so far... Red Steel, for instance.

Hopefully they'll nail it soon enough. And if/when they do, I hope Sony makes it easy for other developers to implement in their games as an optional control scheme, because I really want to play some good shooters with good pointer controls. Then I see the developers of major upcoming games like Portal 2, inFamous 2, and Uncharted 3 saying they have no plans for Move support, and it's just like, what?

Did you mess with the settings?? There are some tweaks some GAFFers mentioned many pages back you should definitely try that. Also Calibration is a big deal keep calibrating and see what happens... (is there calibration in this game???)

 

[Solid warrior]

does the PS move work with PCs?

 

[UntoldDreams]

Fucking MovE gave my ps3 the yellow lights!!!!! fuck was playing sports champions and i was caliberating and the shit started blinking red><.

I don't know where you live tribal24 but in San Francisco area there is a guy who can do a permanent fix for the yellow light of death.

He actually has a professional level automated chip soldering machine.
(Infrared heat detectors, precision heat to within 1 degree for soldering the pins, robotically programmed)

Basically, he can do it and afterwards its pretty much a perm fix.

 

[Belfast]

does the PS move work with PCs?

I imagine it could if drivers were written for it. The hardware (the Eye) is already PC compatible.

 

[Solid warrior]

I imagine it could if drivers were written for it. The hardware (the Eye) is already PC compatible.

can you try it and see if it works? i think ps move use bluetooth as well as the camera as the sensor, right?

 

[Belfast]

can you try it and see if it works? i think ps move use bluetooth as well as the camera as the sensor, right?

Well, I mean. It's not just going to automatically work. Someone has to write software for it, first.

 

[tribal24]

I don't know where you live tribal24 but in San Francisco area there is a guy who can do a permanent fix for the yellow light of death.

He actually has a professional level automated chip soldering machine.
(Infrared heat detectors, precision heat to within 1 degree for soldering the pins, robotically programmed)

Basically, he can do it and afterwards its pretty much a perm fix.

im in nyc anyone know where i can get it fixed? or should i just exchange it for a slim its a 20 gb model

 

[Solid warrior]

Well, I mean. It's not just going to automatically work. Someone has to write software for it, first.

I understand, but i thought since the eye is already compatible, and the ps move uses bluetooth. it could work like wiimote on PC, I think it works on Windows PCs without specific software/driver. you just have to sync it with the bluetooth adapter and an IR Sensor bar might be required sometimes. so, that's why I asked you to try it and see if it works or not.

 

[Konosuke]

Heavy Rain patch is up on Automatic Downloads
It calibrated on the intro screens alone and I didn't pointed it at nothing. Very subtle.

 

[Speevy]

Please don't buy High Velocity Bowling if you're going to buy it for Move. Holy shit, does that game (and Move controls) suck!! If you're expecting Wii Sports-like fun, you're in for a fucked-up treat...

Well, erm, the game was released in the first year or so of the PSN as I recall, so it's not like it doesn't have its share of fans already (and detractors).

 

[Leon S. Kennedy]

I guess this has been posted :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVzD6CKNd8M

Why do the pointer controls for move look far inferior to the wiimote? I thought is was suppose to be better.

 

[jax (old)]

Heavy Rain patch is up on Automatic Downloads
It calibrated on the intro screens alone and I didn't pointed it at nothing. Very subtle.

Tonight I will grab this!



but I'll be playing lots of dualwand gladiator.

 

[Lord Error]

Why do the pointer controls for move look far inferior to the wiimote? I thought is was suppose to be better.

In what game specifically? In the Shoot it works just as good as the best wii pointer games I've seen. No lag, and is very precise, working like it's a laser pointer.

 

[jax (old)]

Please don't buy High Velocity Bowling if you're going to buy it for Move. Holy shit, does that game (and Move controls) suck!! If you're expecting Wii Sports-like fun, you're in for a fucked-up treat...

I'm guessing that's why they don't give you the option to play with MOVE in the demo.

thanks.

Monies saved!

 

[Angst]

does the PS move work with PCs?

I think that PS Move tech guy (Mark?) said that it does work for PCs. He said that developers had tried using the wand to create things in Maya and it was apparently very intuitive.

Of course you'll need hardware drivers and Sony hasn't released them. And most likely won't.

We can hope for a leak or maybe some talented open source developer can write up his own.

 

[Bradach]

When is MAG beta going to end though? it saddens me that the first FPSes aren't going to be up until about Feb Next year. I might bite on MAG, but i'm not a team player :S

I heard that they'll finish the beta within the next four weeks but then they'll release the 2.0 patch for the retail game ( with move controls amongst other things)

 

[Solid warrior]

I think that PS Move tech guy (Mark?) said that it does work for PCs. He said that developers had tried using the wand to create things in Maya and it was apparently very intuitive.

Of course you'll need hardware drivers and Sony hasn't released them. And most likely won't.

We can hope for a leak or maybe some talented open source developer can write up his own.

I hope so. I know It'd be awesome.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I'm guessing that's why they don't give you the option to play with MOVE in the demo.

thanks.

Monies saved!

If you already own and love HVB, you're going to love the update. If not, the update adds nothing to the game. It literally maps Sixaxis rotations to move controller and calls it a day. It doesn't feel natural pressing shit load of buttons to start, hold/press the T button and hold/press it again to toss the bowling ball. The only reason it needs move calibration is to show what kinda spin you are adding to the ball, which was quite decently available before by pressing R2 on Sixaxis. I will give it a go again and try to give it more of a chance (and go through Move tutorial to see if I am doing anything wrong which I don't think I am).

I'm glad I am PSN+ subscriber cause this is seriously not worth $40. $10 via PSN is perfectly fine and would be justified if the update is free for existing users and not just PSN+ users.

EDIT: In other news, Brunswick Pro Bowling releases today with a price drop of $20 for a total of $29.99: http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=78469

 

[UntoldDreams]

im in nyc anyone know where i can get it fixed? or should i just exchange it for a slim its a 20 gb model

My advice sir is to consider the following:

#1) You have several "game activations". One of them is now stuck on that broken machine with no way to deactivate. You basically lose this activation if you don't repair it the broken machine independently. Believe it or not Sony does not deactivate for you even with repair.

#2) You only have ONE movie activation. If this console was activated for movies you cannot
purchase/rent movies on your PSN account on a new machine because its stuck on this dead console. Again its quite silly but Sony is famous for stupidly strict DRM policy.

#3) Sony can and will happily "reset" your account activations but their STRICT policy is to do it once and ONLY once in your lifetime per PSN account. Begging won't change it. Logic won't change it. Its the living spectre of DRM death. You get to reset all activations (including PSP) for one PSN account once and only once.

As such... It might be best to repair the dead console or get it running enough to deactivate it before getting a new console.

 

[mik]

Do I have to do something special to get the Move update for Tiger Woods? It downloaded a patch when i popped it in, but I can't find the option to play with Move anywhere.

 

[dock]

If Gal Gun was available for the PS3 (with Move) I would buy import it and buy Move immediately. It's a real shame to see a lightgun style game limited to analogue stick input.

 

[Maastricht]

Anyone who tried already to get the gold trophy of popping 70 fishes on hard difficulty will agree that this is NOT simply a kids game.

Believe me, I tried it until my arm threatened to fall off.

Yeah, pretty tough! I haven't managed it either, though once you get a good feel for the depth, it gets easier. I also have a suspicion that since the thing has a hook on the side, you may be able to pop multiple fish with a well-placed swipe, but I haven't had (made) time to explore that yet. I also tried beating 1st place on Hard (6000) for the choplifter game. Lot of fun, very hard - I'm just short one or two guys.

I think the definition of a kids game should be 'suitable for playing with kids' basically. Kids tend to be pretty awesome gamers from a surprisingly early age.

I would definitely have liked online leaderboards for this with friendslist support though.

Got a little more into Hustle Kings last night too. Took a Snooker table in practice, put it on hard, all assists off. Great fun - I suck, but I've played this in real life, and I suck about the same amount. Will definitely be playing this more, it is very cool with Move. Pretty much everything I ever wanted.

 

[Bradach]

So I picked up MAG today because I wanted to play a shooter with the Move and the beta is the only one at the moment, and I finally get everything set up... to find out it's only accessible at certain times of the day? What the shit.

From what I played of the training, its controls don't feel as good as the better Wiimote shooters. The pointer's a bit laggier than a good Wiimote pointer, and it just overall doesn't feel as nice as MP3 or the Conduit. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though, since those games came out a good way into the Wii's life while the Move isn't even a week old at this point. There were early Wii games that had far bigger issues than any Move game so far... Red Steel, for instance.

Hopefully they'll nail it soon enough. And if/when they do, I hope Sony makes it easy for other developers to implement in their games as an optional control scheme, because I really want to play some good shooters with good pointer controls. Then I see the developers of major upcoming games like Portal 2, inFamous 2, and Uncharted 3 saying they have no plans for Move support, and it's just like, what?

When you're online later make sure to try the iron sights when on 'standard' move control type. They're very fast and responsive

 

[Ristlager]

Do I have to do something special to get the Move update for Tiger Woods? It downloaded a patch when i popped it in, but I can't find the option to play with Move anywhere.

If the Move is conected, you can select it in the controller options menu. And the game picks up on it when you are on the course. You can't use the Move in the menus.

 

[bestami]

Just received my eu starter pack. Never owned a wii so this motion control thing is all new to me .
Anyways i was wondering if is there a way to download the time crisis demo. I swear i saw some people playing the demo but i couldn't find it anywhere. It is neither in the disc nor on any psn store i've looked.

 

[Bradach]

Just received my eu starter pack. Never owned a wii so this motion control thing is all new to me .
Anyways i was wondering if is there a way to download the time crisis demo. I swear i saw some people playing the demo but i couldn't find it anywhere. It is neither in the disc nor on any psn store i've looked.

As far as I know it's only on the us store. You'll have to login with a us account to get it

 

[bestami]

Well i do have an us account and i have checked the store. Couldn't find it tho. Gonna give it another look, thanks.

 

[YianGaruga]

Well i do have an us account and i have checked the store. Couldn't find it tho. Gonna give it another look, thanks.

I'm amost sure the demo is only available on the US Demo Disc at the moment.

 

[Plinko]

Disappointing to hear about HV Bowling and that the Wii does it better.

Hopefully Sony puts out a high quality bowling game. I've been waiting for one from Wii (with a deep experience, like leagues, tournaments, etc) but I doubt it's coming.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

I don't believe Time Crisis is on the US PSN store. But it was on the demo disc that came with the Sports Champions bundle. AFAIK, that's the only way to get it right now.

But if it's any consolation to you, you aren't missing much. It's one of my least favorite of the Move demos.

 

[Patriotsbball5460]

EDIT: In other news, Brunswick Pro Bowling releases today with a price drop of $20 for a total of $29.99: http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=78469

At $30 it sounds like they are not too confident in the game...has anyone read any previews for it?

 

[Stoffinator]

Heavy Rain patch is up on Automatic Downloads
It calibrated on the intro screens alone and I didn't pointed it at nothing. Very subtle.

This must be for Europe? Because the patch isn't available here. :-[

 

[levious]

At $30 it sounds like they are not too confident in the game...has anyone read any previews for it?

no, but I'd be weary, it was terrible on Wii.

 

[Pandemic]

I'm still needing to purchase this from my local gaming store.

I think it's $160, for the camera, move game, and the sticks. Pretty good price, but I'll probably wait for a discount.

 

[Captain N]

Heavy Rain patch up yet? I am gonna pick it up on the way home from work with some store credit.

 

[Pandemic]

Heavy Rain patch up yet? I am gonna pick it up on the way home from work with some store credit.

Yeah, it was released a few hours ago,
http://www.examiner.com/video-game-news-in-national/heavy-rain-playstation-move-patch-released

 

[DidntKnowJack]

I updated Heavy Rain and got nothing. Of course, I haven't played it since my old PS3 went down, so this may have been the original patch, and not for the Move update. Still, you would think booting up the game would prompt the new update.

edit: I checked again. There is no Move update for Heavy Rain. Not when you boot up the game, and there's nothing in the PSN store. So I don't know wtf you guys are talking about. Unless this is PAL only bullshit again.

 

[TuxBobble]

My advice sir is to consider the following:

#1) You have several "game activations". One of them is now stuck on that broken machine with no way to deactivate. You basically lose this activation if you don't repair it the broken machine independently. Believe it or not Sony does not deactivate for you even with repair.

#2) You only have ONE movie activation. If this console was activated for movies you cannot
purchase/rent movies on your PSN account on a new machine because its stuck on this dead console. Again its quite silly but Sony is famous for stupidly strict DRM policy.

#3) Sony can and will happily "reset" your account activations but their STRICT policy is to do it once and ONLY once in your lifetime per PSN account. Begging won't change it. Logic won't change it. Its the living spectre of DRM death. You get to reset all activations (including PSP) for one PSN account once and only once.

As such... It might be best to repair the dead console or get it running enough to deactivate it before getting a new console.

Are you sure about that? Because I've had mine reset, and while they said "we generally try to avoid this", they really didn't make a big deal of it. (I had my account activated on a roommate's PS3 so we could play one of my games on his projector without moving PS3s/hookups/etc.) So I wouldn't really be surprised if they allowed more than one.

With that being said, I only tried once. So I can't vouch definitively for Sony's position on the matter.

 

[DasRaven]

Looking at the previews/reviews, it looks like the choices for Move bowling are:
HVB: Good visuals, decent play, poor Move implementation and delayed availability.
BPB: Poor visuals, decent play, great Move implementation, now at a more reasonable price.

So, I'm stuck between two bad choices. I guess I'll stick to SC:bocce for now and save my money.

 

[Mr.Green]

Please don't buy High Velocity Bowling if you're going to buy it for Move. Holy shit, does that game (and Move controls) suck!! If you're expecting Wii Sports-like fun, you're in for a fucked-up treat...

Man I was this close [insert gesture here] to get tricked into buying a PS+ subscription to get this last night. Thanks!

 

[supermackem]

Why do the pointer controls for move look far inferior to the wiimote? I thought is was suppose to be better.

Theres some games out that if you shake the move about it will lose is settings and screw up. TTp did a video on it showing how bad it can get for some games the more you shake it.

 

[Sp33Demon]

For those considering HVB Bowling, it is actually a really good Move implementation but it's not automatic or as easy as Wii Bowling. There's no waggle so you can half-ass do it. At first I was like...wtf...this is not good but after playing it for a while, I think it is actually awesome. You can't flick the ball down the alley and the hardest part is putting spin on the ball. There are no aids and it is as hard to be consistent in HVB as it is in real life.

To summarize if you expect to be throwing strikes or spares every frame, like you can in Wii bowling, you should stick with Wii bowling. If you are looking for a much more authentic bowling experience...get the unlock, patch and game and be prepared to work for every last pin you drop. In the original game I had gotten to 180-200 games, with Move I started with 105 and have gotten up to 178 but I'm averaging 140-150's. IRL I am a 140-160 bowler.

 

[CrayzeeCarl]

Are you sure about that? Because I've had mine reset, and while they said "we generally try to avoid this", they really didn't make a big deal of it. (I had my account activated on a roommate's PS3 so we could play one of my games on his projector without moving PS3s/hookups/etc.) So I wouldn't really be surprised if they allowed more than one.

With that being said, I only tried once. So I can't vouch definitively for Sony's position on the matter.

It seems to be hit or miss. I tried getting my video activation reset and they wouldn't do it unless I snail-mailed them a copy of the receipt with a hand-written letter explaining my circumstances with my signature. :S

Do you want a copy of my driver's license and birth certificate too??? :lol :lol :lol :lol FUCK YOU SONY

 

[THE Caffeinated]

Hustle Kings is a bummer with the Move, really hard to get power on your shots. And the actual movements for it are retarded anyways, who thrusts forwards with one hand when paying pool?!

Outside of Flight Control and Tumble none of the downloadable games are doing anything for me.

 

[MrPliskin]

Hustle Kings is a bummer with the Move, really hard to get power on your shots. And the actual movements for it are retarded anyways, who thrusts forwards with one hand when paying pool?!

Outside of Flight Control and Tumble none of the downloadable games are doing anything for me.

Hustle Kings is actually quite good once you understand how the mechanics work. Your power isn't rated by your speed, but by your speed and travel distance.

Basically, the stick (or move controller) has to travel beyond your starting point to gain power. So if you start your hit with the move controller extended, it'll be harder to get power, where as if you start your hit with the move controller near your torso, you'll get much more power on your hit.

It's pretty fun.

HVB is good, but the spin implementation is poor. Essentially you have to do your spin in super slow mo at the very end just prior to release, otherwise it get's wonky. It's not very natural, as spin should be recorded at all times, not just at release.