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Karak
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I played more today and I didn't mind it. It was ok for sure. But after 5 hours...I am done and felt that I got my hours of out of for now.onipex said:
When more games come out I will check it out again but I wouldn't feel right about buying it now. Ignoring the hype a moment it appears that what is offered now just isn't worth the investment or say be something I am playing in a couple weeks. Just no change at all.. But probably will be worth the money later especially if they fix the issues with the hardware and calibration,
As many others have posted here, we did run into the same problems with that... which sucked. It would work perfect than fuckall and be messed up for 10-15 minutes. We couldn't even find the issue.
I actually didn't mind Tiger Woods. Did it offer anything truly new or unique...ha of course not
I wouldn't lie to myself and pretend it was suddenly amazing. But it wasn't any worse than the Wii. For me it was the same or a tiny bit better.YulB.Yeung
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I just had to chime in and say that I was completely floored by the accuracy in disc golf! It absolutely simulates the way I throw a frisbee in real life. This of course means, I can't throw it straight for the life of me...
mr_nothin said:
Sure if the game is designed that way sure it can. Sports champ. didn't feel like it was designed that way. I don't even know what the "hardest of the hardcore" even means. If you're trying to say that the Move can provide a deeper experience because it has better tech I will have to disagree. A deeper experience can be provided with any controller the controls software that offers a deeper experience.
Afrikan said:
Or my opinion on the game is not the same are yours. Disc golf is the only game I felt that way about, but I played a lot of disc goft in the last year. I'm pretty sure I know how to play it right. Play it enough and it still gets tiring as I have played the game for hours and hours.
gluv65 said:
Exactly, in order to do the best move depending on the situation, you have to move your whole body so that you would get in the right position enabling you to naturally and firmly wave your hand, which would not have been possible if you were to stand only in one place.
Fredrik said:
Hmm, well it all depends on everyone's tastes. But I just can't believe that you have finished all the cups in table tennis (gold especially) and still believe that the game is not fun. When you get the grip of it (meaning that you are winning gold matches), I doubt that you will find the game boring. Although, if you are having trouble on bronze or silver levels, randomly missing the shots, I can see that happening, but your mistakes should only push you to try harder, or the other option is to scream like a little girl calling the game boring.
Konosuke said:
And more awesome it is.
Jax said:
Yeah, this is what confuses me too. The general review consensus is totally off the mark, so much that it is really a pain to read them after actually playing the game. For some of the criticism it seems like reviewers didn't even play the game for an hour and already came to their conclusion. Move, boring stuff, bla-bla, nothing new, Wii did already before, bla-bla. Totally wrong. This game is fun because it requires from you to put effort into winning matches. It requires from you to get better. It is totally hardcore, in such a way that you could loseyourself in the action, and feel as if you are playing against the real opponent on the other side, and that is because your movements feel real, and not gimmicky.
darkwing said:
Yep, I agree, as in real life I try to avoid backed, constantly going to the side of table trying to pull of forehand, where I should have normally returned the ball with the backed. Ughh, my wrist hurts.
KennyLinder
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I am holding exactly the same when it works and when it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense at all, its clearly a bug of some kind. It happened yesterday and its happened today. Then today I tested ten times in a row from turning my PS3 off then on, and I can recreate it every time.
KennyLinder
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deepbrown said:
Sainsburys are doing the Starter Pack for £39.99, not sure about game prices (probably most are £29.99) or Move controllers on their own.
If you're happy to wait a day or two, Tesco Direct do the Starter Pack for £39.70 and if you spend over £50 you can use the code "TDX-RTHK" to save £10. Pick up a £20 PSN voucher alongside it and it's a great deal.deepbrown said:
Will cost £5 for Courier Delivery if you don't have a nearby Tesco with a Direct pickup counter though.
Edit: Ah, read you want just the controllers. I already had a PS Eye but they go for £15 on ebay so am planning to sell on the spare from the Starter Pack. Morrisons do the games instore for £27.99.
More thoughts on RE:Move -
It really is a lot easier to pull of headshots, though it's still strange having to use the left analog stick to pan and use the move in your right arm to aim at things not in camera view.
I still have a lot of problems aiming up and down, especially when standing on a sloped hill. Good thing most of the maps are relatively flat.
Not being able to strafe makes things harder, you have to be quick about shooting objects flying at you now, and the axe guys are a little harder to fight due to not being able to sidestep their overhead axe attacks.
My scores are still consistantly lower than my dual shock scores though, but I am cutting the gap a little. It does make the game a lot more interesting for me especially since I played it to death using a dual shock.
It really is a lot easier to pull of headshots, though it's still strange having to use the left analog stick to pan and use the move in your right arm to aim at things not in camera view.
I still have a lot of problems aiming up and down, especially when standing on a sloped hill. Good thing most of the maps are relatively flat.
Not being able to strafe makes things harder, you have to be quick about shooting objects flying at you now, and the axe guys are a little harder to fight due to not being able to sidestep their overhead axe attacks.
My scores are still consistantly lower than my dual shock scores though, but I am cutting the gap a little. It does make the game a lot more interesting for me especially since I played it to death using a dual shock.
Well I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying by saying "deeper experience". I'm saying it provides more of a challenge because of the better tech. I dont get how having better tech (which allows for better tracking accuracy and precision) doesnt provide a "deeper experience" though. Of course software determines that also, but there's a point where the software is limited by the tech it's being made on.onipex said:
I know that there are multiple ways of making a game more challenging without having to upgrade tech but most of the time it's cheap. Basically, instead of having more advanced AI in a game....the devs just crank up the health and the amount of damage that they deal to you. One way is cheap and the other seems more.....authentic in it's approach. What I'm basically saying is: the move offers more of an authentic challenge than the Wii can provide.
swordfishtrombones
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Based on the amount of fun I had with the demo, I tried to buy Sports Champions yesterday. I went to 5 different stores and it was sold out in all of them. They did have one or two starter packs and Kung Fu Rider (which I successfully avoided). They guys at the stores all mentioned that it sold way better than expected. Not sure how to interpret that.
I hope I won't get flamed for this, but does Resident Evil 5 allow for a enjoyable casual play through? The game has never been on my radar, as I am not really into horror stuff (I know it's not comparable to earlier instalments). It does seem to be the most polished Move game at the moment.
I hope I won't get flamed for this, but does Resident Evil 5 allow for a enjoyable casual play through? The game has never been on my radar, as I am not really into horror stuff (I know it's not comparable to earlier instalments). It does seem to be the most polished Move game at the moment.
OK dilemma. GAME is giving 6% back on software with Quidco...and selling the Move games for £24.99 - so that's £23.50 each with the cashback.deepbrown said:
As for the controller...Play.com is doing them for £29.99 and 6% cashback on 'accessories'. Problem is - is the Move controller in the accessory category, or the games category. Confusing the hell outta me.
Edit: That all costs £104. Not worth it...I'll wait until it's reduced.
Anyone saying Move doesn't have a must-have title out there hasn't spent any real time with Sports Champions. It's a fantastic game, and I'm curious if the sort of "booo, waggle" sentiment from a lot of my peers is sort of creeping in on things.
What's weird is that I got why some would bitch and moan about the mini-game-ness of a lot of games on the Wii, but Sports Champions has depth. It's a meatier, more nuanced game than any of the starter experiences on the Wii, demonstrates the fidelity and accuracy of the controller and it's good. Not just fun, not just a decent tech demo it's a very, very good game.
It's also addictive as hell, and my roommate is a Disc Golf savant. It's humbling to have been playing games for years and having played a gajillion motion games and still end up being bested by someone who seemingly makes no effort in utterly dominating the game. She's a thing of beauty to watch; long-range birdies, holes-in-one, she just got it from the second she first started. In fact, her first throw was a hole in one and she hasn't looked back since.
That said, after hours with RE5, I can pretty definitively say that it doesn't change the experience anywhere near as well as RE4 Wii did. I don't know if it's the filtering or what, but there's been no "click" moment for me where I really got it.
Doesn't matter, though; Move is precisely what I wanted from motion control in the first place, and if future games can be as well-executed as Sports Champions without just trying to one-up the exact same gameplay experiences on the Wii, it'll be amazing. That there's a rather steady raft of games that are ready-made for motion control strengths (light gun and first-person shooters, mostly) means I'm set for Move goodies.
Also, wait until you get a crack at it in LittleBigPlanet 2. If it doesn't sell a shitton of units on the basis of word-of-mouth alone, I'll be amazed. Shame Sony undershipped the hardware because it really does deserve to stand a chance against the Kinect juggernaut.
What's weird is that I got why some would bitch and moan about the mini-game-ness of a lot of games on the Wii, but Sports Champions has depth. It's a meatier, more nuanced game than any of the starter experiences on the Wii, demonstrates the fidelity and accuracy of the controller and it's good. Not just fun, not just a decent tech demo it's a very, very good game.
It's also addictive as hell, and my roommate is a Disc Golf savant. It's humbling to have been playing games for years and having played a gajillion motion games and still end up being bested by someone who seemingly makes no effort in utterly dominating the game. She's a thing of beauty to watch; long-range birdies, holes-in-one, she just got it from the second she first started. In fact, her first throw was a hole in one and she hasn't looked back since.
That said, after hours with RE5, I can pretty definitively say that it doesn't change the experience anywhere near as well as RE4 Wii did. I don't know if it's the filtering or what, but there's been no "click" moment for me where I really got it.
Doesn't matter, though; Move is precisely what I wanted from motion control in the first place, and if future games can be as well-executed as Sports Champions without just trying to one-up the exact same gameplay experiences on the Wii, it'll be amazing. That there's a rather steady raft of games that are ready-made for motion control strengths (light gun and first-person shooters, mostly) means I'm set for Move goodies.
Also, wait until you get a crack at it in LittleBigPlanet 2. If it doesn't sell a shitton of units on the basis of word-of-mouth alone, I'll be amazed. Shame Sony undershipped the hardware because it really does deserve to stand a chance against the Kinect juggernaut.
British Monsoon
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Is there a bundle for people who already own the camera? If not, anyone know the cheapest place in the UK to get both a Move and Navigational controller? I'm looking on ebay, and they all seem to be going for near £30 each :/
Also, anyone have a list of games that are going to support Move? I haven't been paying much attention, but suddenly realised after playing Anno on the Wii that RUSE should be fucking awesome with Move. Sports Champions looks cool too, but beyond that i've got no clue as to the future Move lineup.
Also, anyone have a list of games that are going to support Move? I haven't been paying much attention, but suddenly realised after playing Anno on the Wii that RUSE should be fucking awesome with Move. Sports Champions looks cool too, but beyond that i've got no clue as to the future Move lineup.
My body is so fucking sore today. :lol
I didn't know Sports Champions was going to give me this much of a workout (fair enough I don't do regular exercise...but c'mon!). They should definitely try to market this aspect of SC.
I didn't know Sports Champions was going to give me this much of a workout (fair enough I don't do regular exercise...but c'mon!). They should definitely try to market this aspect of SC.
Hope you enjoy the 8 hour charge for the two newer Moves. ;PPsykotik said:i now have four moves.
can't wait to get into some 2 player 2 moves gladiator battles!
SamBishop said:
I think what I really like about Sports Champions is that it doesn't just throw a bunch of sports in your face and say "well, here ya go, have at it!"
No, they've included campaign modes (that get devilishly challenging), several challenges, different playing fields (which do make a difference), depth of actual play, and a boatload of unlockables. That's BEFORE you get to multiplayer and its different modes (in some of the sports).
And I happen to think that the presentation is really, really good. Menus are slick, everything is well-rendered (and HD, naturally), tutorials are presented nicely and easy to understand. Sure, the characters are a little generic, but they're "good" generic, if you know what I mean.
onipex said:
It's not really about the flaw in the motion controls, the Wii's control scheme only takes a very general abstract cut of the real player's actions -- that's why a wrist flick works. PS3's game design for the Move titles replicates 1:1, giving players a lot more precision.
This means that wrist flicks can't pass anymore, and that there is more real depth to master.
This depth is also what will turn certain audiences (old people, for example) off because of the increased difficulty.
These titles that Sony are putting out now are aimed at the hardcore, players who find Wii titles gimmicky and lacking in depth will have the chance to see whether they like hardcore in-depth motion gaming better.
Oh really...that's cheaper than online with the discount. You can get the Navi controller for £17.99 from Play.com - cheapest I've seen it.CRD90 said:
I live near asda...maybe I'll just get it and play some demos while I wait for the £23.50 games from GAME. I have Heavy Rain and EyePet to keep me going lol
I got my Move on Friday, here in Australia. I didn't expect it, but I have really enjoyed it. I only got the one move controller and a navigon/pickle, they are actually quite hard to find in Australia surprisingly enough. But there are bucket loads of starter kits, but I have a PSeye so just needed he move and pickle. Also it's freaking cheap over here, starter packs are $AU70, and I picked up my Move for only $AU50.
I bought Tiger 11 at the same time. To start with, this was the only reason I got the Move. I tell you what I played it to death on the weekend, any spare time I had was used on some virtual golf, it's freaking amazing with the move. I have played Tiger 10 on the Wii with motion plus and this absolutely trounces it. I have never owned a golf game, but this has turned me into a believer. I Can't wait to get my mates over for a few beers and a round or two.
Once I got over the Tiger Awesomeness I ventured into updating and Downloading. Actually I'll talk about this here while I mentioned it. PSN is shit house at dolling out updates. Took hours to update all my games, lucky the Controllers needed charging. Tiger 11 was a massive update.
Got the High Velocity Bowling update, WOW. A great looking, on-line enabled Wii bowling with HD graphics. VERY fun. Again, built for the Move. I bought this when it first came out, my sister liked it because she could beat me, I hated it for the same reason, barely played it. This game is much improved due to Move.
Heavy Rain Update is interesting, I didn't play too much of it as I was trying out so many new games and other updates. Also Little Big Planet isn't move ready yet, surprisingly.
I also downloaded a bunch of demos. Sports champions might be worth a purchase, the table tennis is pretty good. Echo Chrome 2 is a smart use of it, missus loved it. Some racket sports shit and a crap party game. As with anything new there is plenty of trash to rob misinformed people of their hard earned.
Something I didn't read about prior to the Move launch was the PSN games.
My pick of all the PSN games is Tumble. I booted this up not expecting much, but fuck me dead if it didn't prompt me to chuck my 3D glasses on and play some 3D/move enabled greatness. I imagine this is what Boom Blox is like. But in 3D. This is where the 3D haters have to STFU, because this game is SERIOUSLY enhanced by 3D. Moving the objects around in a 3D space right in front of you is great. I won't lie, it did take a few minutes to get used to the sensitivity but once you do it's pretty easy to get your way around. I bought this one after about 10 minutes with the demo. If you have a 3D TV and move, do yourself a favour and get this game.
Flight Control... yeah. Well it doesn't quite work. The auto snapping of the final few centre meters is handy but once things get crazy forgeddaboudit. Oh yeah, out of no where it has 3D support. It's not important and doesn't enhance it at all, but it's executed well, I guess.
As some one erring on the 'hardcore' end of the spectrum I can unequivocally say the Move is great. No I do not own a Wii, well, any more so these aren't new experiences. In fact most of what I've liked about Move can be done on a Motion Plus enhanced Wii. But with the addition of 3D in some games and the quality HD graphics and on-line in nearly all of them make this light years ahead of what the Wii can do. No there isn't a Mario Galaxy yet, no there isn't a Zelda, of course not. But Zelda on the Wii was a let down and MG took a while to come out. I hope there is a good Jak and Daxter or Ratchet and Clank game in the works. With other 'hardcore' titles on the horizon the future looks at least positive. Sure Killzone 3 and Socom 4 will probably be better played on the DualShock 3 but at least you have the option.
I bought Tiger 11 at the same time. To start with, this was the only reason I got the Move. I tell you what I played it to death on the weekend, any spare time I had was used on some virtual golf, it's freaking amazing with the move. I have played Tiger 10 on the Wii with motion plus and this absolutely trounces it. I have never owned a golf game, but this has turned me into a believer. I Can't wait to get my mates over for a few beers and a round or two.
Once I got over the Tiger Awesomeness I ventured into updating and Downloading. Actually I'll talk about this here while I mentioned it. PSN is shit house at dolling out updates. Took hours to update all my games, lucky the Controllers needed charging. Tiger 11 was a massive update.
Got the High Velocity Bowling update, WOW. A great looking, on-line enabled Wii bowling with HD graphics. VERY fun. Again, built for the Move. I bought this when it first came out, my sister liked it because she could beat me, I hated it for the same reason, barely played it. This game is much improved due to Move.
Heavy Rain Update is interesting, I didn't play too much of it as I was trying out so many new games and other updates. Also Little Big Planet isn't move ready yet, surprisingly.
I also downloaded a bunch of demos. Sports champions might be worth a purchase, the table tennis is pretty good. Echo Chrome 2 is a smart use of it, missus loved it. Some racket sports shit and a crap party game. As with anything new there is plenty of trash to rob misinformed people of their hard earned.
Something I didn't read about prior to the Move launch was the PSN games.
My pick of all the PSN games is Tumble. I booted this up not expecting much, but fuck me dead if it didn't prompt me to chuck my 3D glasses on and play some 3D/move enabled greatness. I imagine this is what Boom Blox is like. But in 3D. This is where the 3D haters have to STFU, because this game is SERIOUSLY enhanced by 3D. Moving the objects around in a 3D space right in front of you is great. I won't lie, it did take a few minutes to get used to the sensitivity but once you do it's pretty easy to get your way around. I bought this one after about 10 minutes with the demo. If you have a 3D TV and move, do yourself a favour and get this game.
Flight Control... yeah. Well it doesn't quite work. The auto snapping of the final few centre meters is handy but once things get crazy forgeddaboudit. Oh yeah, out of no where it has 3D support. It's not important and doesn't enhance it at all, but it's executed well, I guess.
As some one erring on the 'hardcore' end of the spectrum I can unequivocally say the Move is great. No I do not own a Wii, well, any more so these aren't new experiences. In fact most of what I've liked about Move can be done on a Motion Plus enhanced Wii. But with the addition of 3D in some games and the quality HD graphics and on-line in nearly all of them make this light years ahead of what the Wii can do. No there isn't a Mario Galaxy yet, no there isn't a Zelda, of course not. But Zelda on the Wii was a let down and MG took a while to come out. I hope there is a good Jak and Daxter or Ratchet and Clank game in the works. With other 'hardcore' titles on the horizon the future looks at least positive. Sure Killzone 3 and Socom 4 will probably be better played on the DualShock 3 but at least you have the option.
Chittagong
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What are the chances that Move will bomb just a little bit, so that I can get it cheaper. I mean, it's hell of an investment to go 2 controllers, 2 navigation controllers, camera, Sports Champions.
Chittagong said:
Judging by how many resellers are out of stock after launch day (including Amazon), I'd say the chance of a bomb is highly unlikely. $150 for the starter bundle & one extra move isn't small change, but it is not that much. Pick up the NavCon(s) later when something comes along that warrants the cost over just using the DS3.
Chittagong said:
Don't get the navigation controllers if you just want to play sports champions.
I also can't actually think of a single game that has multiplayer that uses navigation controllers (?) I'm not sure why anyone would buy two.
There's also some good discounting going on at online retail. There's £10 off the RRP on the starter pack at amazon.co.uk, £5 off SC. You can get those two for ~75. You could have saved on the second controller too, but they seem to be sold out...the third party sellers are actually marking up standalone controllers significantly right now (£45!)
fake edit - I'm running under the assumption you're in Europe...always thought you were at least!
Chittagong
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gofreak said:
yep London here. Gaming is generally really cheap in UK compared to mainland and especially Scandinavia, which is why I've become such a cheap bastard :lol
thanks all for suggestions. Sounds like bundle + one extra controller for me, forget the navigation controller for now and maybe get one if I need one
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