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Pokemon Black & White (Thread #3) - Seasons, Infinite-use TMs, Deru Powah, and More

ThatObviousUser

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  • As a reminder, the games will be released on September 18th for 4800 yen each (around $50).

  • The Victini you capture after obtaining the Liberty Ticket will know the attacks Incinerate, Quick Attack, Endure, and Confusion. Incinerate has 15pp and burns the Berries on your opponents, making them completely unusable.

  • Victini is the Victory Pokemon, a dual Psychic / Fire type, stands 0.4m tall, and weighs 4.0kg. It is #000 in the Isshu PokeDex.

  • Victini is in the basement of the lighthouse on Liberty Garden Island. Apparently, you are investigating an incident on the island and meet Victini in the process. It'll reappear if you K.O. it accidentally. To access this area, you need the Liberty Ticket; its distribution will take place from September 18th to October 18th via Wi-Fi.

  • Mamambou (ママンボウ) is the Nursing Pokemon and a Water-type. It has the Hydration ability as well as a new one called Healing Heart, which cures its teammates of Status Conditions. Judging by its appearance, it is Luvdisc's evolution; Electivire was not revealed to be Electabuzz's evolution until much later. Mamambou stands 1.2m tall and weighs 31.6kg.

  • Shikijika (シキジカ) is the Season Pokemon, a dual Normal / Grass type. Its two abilities are Chlorophyll or Herbivore, the latter of which raises its attack when it is hit by Grass-type attacks. As has been repeated several times, Shikijika changes in appearance depending on the season: in the spring it is pink (like the official Ken Sugimori artwork), in the summer it is green, in the fall it is orange, and in the winter it is brown. It stands 0.6m tall and weighs 19.5kg.

  • There will be a new in-game season each month of the real year, meaning three of each season a year. As seen on the bottom of the scan, the color of Isshu's terrain changes depending on the season.

  • Wild Pokemon will vary by season and area.

  • The very bottom of the left page shows that different areas of the map will be accessible during different seasons. It shows that during the winter, enough snow will pile up to allow you to go on top of a cliff.

  • A new mini-game called PokeShifter will allow you to transfer Pokemon from fourth generation games to Black and White using two DS's. In a Pal Park-like manner, you select six Pokemon to transfer over on the DS with your fourth generation game and then encounter them in a grassy field in Black and White on the second DS. You use a sling shot to shoot Poke Balls at your Pokemon as they jump out of grass and back in, and when you hit them, you re-capture them.

  • The PokeShifter is only available after you defeat the Elite Four, confirming their presence in the game.

  • Dual wild Pokemon battles occur in dark green grass.

  • You and your friends Belle and Cheren leave from your hometown of Kanokota Town and meet Team Plasma in Karakusa Town. There, one of the leaders is giving a speech to the local Trainers in which he says, "As humans, what is it that we should do?" In an earlier news story here, he had another line in which he said, "What we're discussing is liberating Pokemon."

  • TMs will no longer expire after one use - you can use them as many times as you want, like HMs!

  • The journey will once again revolve around collecting eight badges.

  • Dento is the first Isshu Gym Leader - you fight him in Sanyo City.

  • Aloe is the second Gym Leader, a black woman you fight in Shippou City. It is a very traditional city and has a museum, which is apparently part of the Gym. Its train rail lines are 100 years old.

  • In both Gyms, you have to answer quiz questions to battle Dento and Aloe. For Dento's Gym, one of them asks about type compatibility, and in Aloe's Gym, one of them asks "What's is something that you eat, is warmed in a pan, and is delicious?" Aloe's quiz is apparently more general and not really Pokemon-related.

  • Rotation Battle - Another three-on-three battle mode. You can only choose one of your Pokemon out of the three out to attack each turn. You have to predict which Pokemon your opponent will use and what attack they'll use for the greatest success. This type of three-on-three battle is in addition to the regular three-on-three battle mode and the one revealed last month where you can constantly rotate the position of your Pokemon.

  • Miracle Shooter - Allows you to use items in wireless battles; you collect points each turn and can use them for the chance to use items. You can choose whether to use Miracle Shooter or not.

  • Battle Subway - A subway where you can participate in seven battles at a time. If you win all seven battles you can earn battle points and exchange them for various gifts. There are three battle modes: single, double and multi battles. In multi battles you can team up with a friend wirelessly or with an in-game character. In all of the battle modes, each Pokemon you face is Level 50. There is one Trainer per train carriage.

  • The Pokemon Musical contests will take place in the Musical Hall.

  • Deru Power is a new term for the abilities you can win by partaking in High Link missions. For instance, some abilities allows you to double the amount of EXP. Points your Pokemon gain or halve the cost of items in PokeMarts. With the EXP. Points ability, anyone nearby using C-Gear will get the effect too, meaning some abilities can be shared with nearby players! You can trade these abilities with other players as well.

  • You obtain the Deru Power from the Entrance Tree (ハイルツリー) in the High Link area.

  • A Vaporeon you meet in the Dream World has Hydration as its ability, meaning Pokemon can now have non-standard abilities! The other Eeveelutions you can obtain in the Dream World will also have different abilities than usual.

  • CoroCoro states that many Pokemon you meet in dreams will have different abilities than usual.

  • You can trade the berries and items you get in the High Link with other players. You leave items on the shelves to trade, as seen in the Pokabu artwork.

  • There are no Berries in the Isshu region. They only appear in the Dream World.

  • Through the Global Link you can download new covers for the C-Gear and PokeDex as well as new songs for the Pokemon Musical contests.
Source: Pokebeach

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Put that in your pipe and smoke it. As a quick reminder, still no fanart please.
 

ThatObviousUser

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QuiteWhittle said:
Andrex, you should probably mention that there will be only new Pokemon.

You just did. :p

For the uninitiated, pre-Elite Four, you will only encounter new Pokemon in Isshu.
 

Poyunch

Member
So this means either Mamambou is common like Seaking or it won't appear catchable until after the Elite Four.
 

kman3000

Member
I love Minezumi and his evolution!

I hope he becomes this gen's Starly and is an actually useful early Pokemon (like Staraptor in the competitive scene).
 

GeeDuhb

Member
Interesting news. I am liking how this game is shaping up already...although the TM thing does have the ability to radically change the game...I am intrigued to see how this works out.
 

Poyunch

Member
SalsaShark said:
I still dont know how i feel about that, man.
I love it. It's going to be like experiencing the original Pokemon all over again where you don't know what anything is.
 

ThatObviousUser

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vectorman06 said:
Andrex, you forgot one little thing: players can trade abilities too.

The OP does say players can trade Deru Power abilities with the C Gear.
 
D-Pad said:
Thanks for the new info compilation! It all sounds really great! Especially the unlimited TM thing. Hopefully this also means no more HMs.


:(

Look at the bright side, we have the cute bat with no eyes pokemon :)
 

Forkball

Member
Shit that still needs to be fixed:

HMs shouldn't show up in the moveset for Pokemon unless you want to, or they should be items.

A non-shitty slow-ass way to transfer Pokemon between games like a Pokemon box on the Wii.

Selectable natures

No more hidden IVs/EVs
 

Azure J

Member
I need a FFUUUUUUUU gif of the moment Goku screamed as Namek exploded around him to fully react to these recent updates.

Multi-use TMs, my God. :eek:

NON HYPE EDIt: Read all of the OP now and truly this is the GSC of our time.
 

Tiktaalik

Member
TMs will no longer expire after one use - you can use them as many times as you want, like HMs!

holy fucking shit

Every time I play through a new pokemon game I find that they've had the same handful of issues that I find aggravating, but here they've gone and actually fixed one of my grievances!

I am cautiously interested in the game now...
 
We'll see if Game Freak adds enough to make this feel like a fresh experience. I couldn't finish HG/SS cause shit was far too tedious. Zubats, geodudes, the same damn formula. If we get some real gameplay changes and not some small tweaks and aesthetics then I'll be all over this shit.

So far, they seem to be heading in the right direction. The 3-on-3 battle modes seem incredibly interesting. And wild double battles? Yes please.
 

Firestorm

Member
This is actually what has me most excited:
# A Vaporeon you meet in the Dream World has Hydration as its ability, meaning Pokemon can now have non-standard abilities! The other Eeveelutions you can obtain in the Dream World will also have different abilities than usual.
 

TheSeks

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Andrex said:
For the uninitiated, pre-Elite Four, you will only encounter new Pokemon in Isshu.

Unless trading through the GTS, right? I gotta have my Charmander. :(
 

Gravijah

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Pinko Marx said:
We'll see if Game Freak adds enough to make this feel like a fresh experience. I couldn't finish HG/SS cause shit was far too tedious. Zubats, geodudes, the same damn formula. If we get some real gameplay changes and not some small tweaks and aesthetics then I'll be all over this shit.

So far, they seem to be heading in the right direction. The 3-on-3 battle modes seem incredibly interesting. And wild double battles? Yes please.

Keep in mind HGSS was a remake of the "same old stuff" and actually had a higher random battle rate than the newer stuff.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Firestorm said:
This is actually what has me most excited:
The wording is confusing. Is it saying that Dream World Pokemon have different abilities that can't be obtained elsewhere, or is this simply Vaporeon's second ability now? The Eeveelutions only have 1 possible ability each as of gen4.
 
Gravijah said:
Keep in mind HGSS was a remake of the "same old stuff" and actually had a higher random battle rate than the newer stuff.

I barely finished D/P, and completely skipped Pt cause I was burned out.
 

Lunchbox

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what the fuck. what is this shit called?
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why is it licking its nose
 

ThatObviousUser

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Pinko Marx said:
We'll see if Game Freak adds enough to make this feel like a fresh experience. I couldn't finish HG/SS cause shit was far too tedious. Zubats, geodudes, the same damn formula. If we get some real gameplay changes and not some small tweaks and aesthetics then I'll be all over this shit.

So far, they seem to be heading in the right direction. The 3-on-3 battle modes seem incredibly interesting. And wild double battles? Yes please.

You know HGSS are remakes... right?
 
Andrex said:
You know HGSS are remakes... right?

Refer to previous post.
Diamond and Pearl barely had enough new stuff to keep me going. And this is even after I skipped the entire GBA generation. The need for HM whores, tedious dungeous (zubats and geodudes, jesus fucking christ. over 500+ pokeymans and there are only a handful of cave dwelling mans), rehashed story (not that the story matters much to me, but c'mon, the least they could do is try to hide the fact that they haven't penned a new story since the orignal), etc. etc.

I could go on, but I think you catch my drift.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Pinko Marx said:
tedious dungeous (zubats and geodudes, jesus fucking christ. over 500+ pokeymans and there are only a handful of cave dwelling mans)

Obviously, this is solved in B/W.

Pinko Marx said:
rehashed story (not that the story matters much to me, but c'mon, the least they could do is try to hide the fact that they haven't penned a new story since the orignal), etc. etc.

G/S/C and HGSS had a different enough story.
 

Ondore

Member
I saw unlimited use TMs, and promptly came bricks.

Now, the Miracle Shooter can go jump off a cliff for all I care.
 

TheOGB

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Pinko Marx said:
rehashed story (not that the story matters much to me, but c'mon, the least they could do is try to hide the fact that they haven't penned a new story since the orignal)
Bad guys are being douchebags
Douchebag team returns
Gang war where both sides attempt to alter the landscape of the world
Cult tries to restart the universe

???
 
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